Sim Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 They have clearly had to rush out this press release due to the original cock up. What a farce, and a shame for the other dancers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandra Newman Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 3 hours ago, bridiem said: Delighted; but how could it be made public like this? If The Times were given an immediate interview with him, surely it was with an embargo? I guess The Times is to blame here and they clearly did not respect the embargo. Surely they were told not to publish the interview until the RB's official announcement of all the promotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Just now, Xandra Newman said: I guess The Times is to blame here and they clearly did not respect the embargo. Surely they were told not to publish the interview until the RB's official announcement of all the promotions. I’m not so sure - they certainly complied with the season announcement embargo, even after the ROH had managed to leak the information themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonty Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Why was Sambe told so much earlier than everyone else? And more to the point, why was he then giving interviews to the press about it? Surely he would also have been asked to keep quiet about it until the official announcement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Fonty said: Why was Sambe told so much earlier than everyone else? And more to the point, why was he then giving interviews to the press about it? Surely he would also have been asked to keep quiet about it until the official announcement? I imagine the interview was arranged by the ROH press people themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colman Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I've seen it suggested that the early announcement is for the sake of publicity for the Japanese tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangorballetboy Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Let's not go bandying around blame here when none of us is in possession of the facts. Someone somewhere has cocked-up and that's all we know. Let's just be happy for Sambé and get on with it. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonty Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, bangorballetboy said: Let's not go bandying around blame here when none of us is in possession of the facts. Someone somewhere has cocked-up and that's all we know. Let's just be happy for Sambé and get on with it. Speaking personally, I wasn't bandying blame around. I am certain it wasn't Sambe's fault, and I feel a bit sorry for him that an announcement like this has been slightly tainted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Macmillan Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Not sure about 'tainted' - the piece got nearly a full page in the main paper, right after the D-Day pages, rather than in the Times 2 supplement. Normally that might be a cause for rejoicing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naomi M Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 By the way, the performances of Don Quixote in Tokyo originally supposed to be Takada/ McRae were sold out (as well as the opening night and the 2 galas) so they did not have to boost ticket sales. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophoife Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Here's a radical thought: the announcement of Sambé's [deserved, inevitable and welcome] promotion was deliberately timed for before the Japanese tour, certainly the size and location of the printed article do not appear to indicate a stuff-up, in fact I wouldn't mind betting that The Times was carefully given an exclusive. Certainly in this day and age it is doubtful that the article would have been as prominent if the company press release had already been in the public domain. I am also guessing here, but in the general announcement of promotions, joiners and leavers, some well-deserved moves in the lower ranks may go less noticed by the wider public with a more passive interest in dance in the excitement of who might have been promoted to principal. Perhaps this is an attempt at making those promotions more prominent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Sophoife said: I am also guessing here, but in the general announcement of promotions, joiners and leavers, some well-deserved moves in the lower ranks may go less noticed by the wider public with a more passive interest in dance in the excitement of who might have been promoted to principal. Perhaps this is an attempt at making those promotions more prominent? I doubt it. The RB is so incredibly busy at the moment that any kind of subterfuge must be very far from their minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penelopesimpson Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 13 hours ago, MAX said: With this news they should change their plans and announce the rest of the promotions today 😀 But the RB press department seems to be on holidays at the moment ! .They’re busy choosing Lucy Sinclair’s leaving present. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Congratulations to Sambé - well deserved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scheherezade Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 22 hours ago, Sim said: They have clearly had to rush out this press release due to the original cock up. What a farce, and a shame for the other dancers. It is. I am totally delighted for Sambe and cannot think of anyone more deserving of a promotion to principal but it does rather give the impression that any other promotions are of no real importance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted June 8, 2019 Author Share Posted June 8, 2019 From the way this has been done (and following the publicity afforded Naghdi and Ball in the last couple of years), I think that Marcelino's promotion is very likely to be the only one to Principal this year. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penelopesimpson Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 my thought too, Capybara. They don't need another female Principal and I guess Corrales will be the next male, I hope. But if they are going to use Halberg a lot, that cuts out the need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LH Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 As Sambé's well-deserved promotion has opened up a potential knock-on effect, might I suggest this could comprise Nicol Edmonds to First Soloist, Joseph Sissens to Soloist, and Leo Dixon to First Artist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I thought you had already? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 7 hours ago, alison said: I thought you had already? But I think this was on the Marcelino Sambe ‘congratulations’ thread and there was a suggestion (from balletbangorboy) that promotion wishes etc should be posted on the ‘predictions’ page. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annamk Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 On 08/06/2019 at 17:20, penelopesimpson said: my thought too, Capybara. They don't need another female Principal and I guess Corrales will be the next male, I hope. But if they are going to use Halberg a lot, that cuts out the need. I also so hope so re Corrales. Perhaps it depends who, if anyone (other than Soares), is leaving the principal ranks this year. Sambe timing was presumably because of Japan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 Corrales will have strong 'competition' from Bracewell next year, in my view. Love them both and sooooo hope that they will both be able to dance a full 2019/20 season. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Possibly but was Bracewell a Principal already with BRB and dropped a rank to join the main company? I feel that barring further serious injury etc Corrales could get promoted sooner rather than later because of his being a former Principal already with ENB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Just now, LinMM said: Possibly but was Bracewell a Principal already with BRB and dropped a rank to join the main company? I feel that barring further serious injury etc Corrales could get promoted sooner rather than later because of his being a former Principal already with ENB No, William Bracewell left BRB as a soloist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LH Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, alison said: I thought you had already? Yes I had, but I put it in the wrong thread and was effectively admonished! Edit - I see JohnS has already leapt to my defence! Edited June 11, 2019 by Richard LH Seen an earlier post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 My comment by the way is around possible technical contract type issues not around the two dancers abilities! I haven't seen enough of Bracewell performing yet but friends who have like him a lot! I do know I've seen enough of Caesar to think he should be heading in Principal direction but will book to see more of Bracewell next year if possible. I suppose though you could say that Bracewell has been a member of the Royal in one form or another for longer! Maybe that counts for something too....in the technicalities of contracts sense at least!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyTurk Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I personally see Bracewell being promoted first. I'm not yet sold on Corrales' artistic presence. So I think he needs a bit more time developing it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, HappyTurk said: I'm not yet sold on Corrales' artistic presence. So I think he needs a bit more time developing it. In which case, you didn't see his jaw dropping appearances with ENB: his Hilarion in Khan's Giselle, his Albrecht in Skeaping's Giselle; his Birbanto in Le Corsaire; his Young Man in Le Jeune Homme - all amazing and completely different from his Solor and his Romeo with the RB. And the fact that his Romeo was so completely different from anything else he has done served to show what an artist Cesar is. Edited June 11, 2019 by capybara 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, capybara said: In which case, you didn't see his jaw dropping appearances with ENB: his Hilarion in Khan's Giselle, his Albrecht in Skeaping's Giselle; his Birbanto in Le Corsaire; his Young Man in Le Jeune Homme - all amazing and completely different from his Solor and his Romeo with the RB. And the fact that his Romeo was so completely different from anything else he has done served to show what an artist Cesar is. I was just going to mention 'Jeune Homme'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penelopesimpson Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Corrales is streets ahead of Bracewell, wonde fuel though he is. Sometimes charisma must b3 the deciding factor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, penelopesimpson said: Corrales is streets ahead of Bracewell, wonde fuel though he is. Sometimes charisma must b3 the deciding factor. Having seen William Bracewell dance a lot during his time at BRB I would have to say that he is a very different dancer to Corrales. After his debut as Romeo my friends were surprised to say the least when I said he was the best Romeo I have ever seen in the MacMillan production and possibly any other production I have seen. His duet with Yvette Knight in Miracle in the Gorbals just took my breath away and he scintillated in Elite Syncopations to name but 3 roles. Both these young gentlemen are worthy of promotion. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyTurk Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 (edited) On 11/06/2019 at 17:29, capybara said: In which case, you didn't see his jaw dropping appearances with ENB: his Hilarion in Khan's Giselle, his Albrecht in Skeaping's Giselle; his Birbanto in Le Corsaire; his Young Man in Le Jeune Homme - all amazing and completely different from his Solor and his Romeo with the RB. And the fact that his Romeo was so completely different from anything else he has done served to show what an artist Cesar is. Well, we will just have to agree to disagree. Certainly, I believe he will be a principal at the Royal Ballet in the near future (perhaps it will take two years?) But I do think he has room to develop his presence (which isn't a surprise considering he is quite young). Edited June 12, 2019 by HappyTurk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annamk Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 On 11/06/2019 at 20:12, HappyTurk said: I'm not yet sold on Corrales' artistic presence. So I think he needs a bit more time developing it. So I am guessing you didn't see his Romeo either .... especially the last one, not sure how much more artistic presence it would have been possible to show. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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