MAX Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 oh the discussion about Liam Scarlett is here now 😊 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penelopesimpson Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 5 hours ago, zxDaveM said: why did you put 'astonishingly' at the start of that? Poor form! Err, a joke? Humour? Honest irony? Self-deprecation? What on earth else could it possibly be? Disappointing Dave. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryrosesatonapin Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 13 hours ago, Jeannette said: I hope that Ratmansky’s Preludes (formerly 24 Preludes) is back on the schedule for 2020/21, as it was originally planned for the current season before being cancelled/replaced. Oh yes, me too! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonty Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) On 30/03/2020 at 23:09, alison said: Not only that, but the unexpectedly poor ticket sales for 2019, too ... I expect this was reported at the time, but which ballets in particular sold poorly? I thought the season consisted of the usual mixture of "safe" classics, and new works. Or do you mean poor ticket sales for the ROH in general, including the opera? How many people on here received the email asking for feedback on the ROH? I have filled these in before, and the following question always puzzles me. "Which of the following describe your motivations for attending? (Tick all that apply)" There are 17 different choices, including Other: To spend time with friends and family For a special occasion For peace and quiet To be intellectually stimulated To be entertained To be inspired To do something new/out of the ordinary To learn something To enjoy the atmosphere For reflection Dance/Music is an important part of who I am To escape from everyday life For academic reasons For professional reasons To entertain my children To educate/stimulate my children Other I found myself musing over some of these choices. The academic in me starts to ponder what some of these actually mean? What constitutes intellectual stimulation, for example? Something that provokes heated debate afterwards? Would that really be someone's motivation for going to the ballet or opera? Doesn't everyone who attends a place of entertainment (be it the ROH or the local Odeon cinema) do so to be entertained? And while I enjoy going to see the ballet, I wouldn't exactly say it is an important part of who I am. On the other hand, the reason why many people attend, which is to see a particular performer in a particular role, doesn't seem to be included. I shall have to put that down under Other. Edited April 3, 2020 by Fonty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oncnp Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Fonty said: I expect this was reported at the time, but which ballets in particular sold poorly? I thought the season consisted of the usual mixture of "safe" classics, and new works. Or do you mean poor ticket sales for the ROH in general, including the opera? Manon comes to mind...esp opening night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 13 hours ago, penelopesimpson said: Err, a joke? Humour? Honest irony? Self-deprecation? What on earth else could it possibly be? Disappointing Dave. It obviously wasn’t very clear to everyone that it was a joke. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 3 hours ago, oncnp said: Manon comes to mind...esp opening night Don Quixote, initially, the Two Pigeons bill, Frankenstein ... Can't remember what else was on last season. I don't know what the opera sales were like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonty Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Ah right. They did rather overdo Two Pigeons, I thought. And Don Quixote has never been one of my favourites. Never saw Frankenstein, it just didn't appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Fonty said: I found myself musing over some of these choices. The academic in me starts to ponder what some of these actually mean? What constitutes intellectual stimulation, for example? Something that provokes heated debate afterwards? Would that really be someone's motivation for going to the ballet or opera? Doesn't everyone who attends a place of entertainment (be it the ROH or the local Odeon cinema) do so to be entertained? And while I enjoy going to see the ballet, I wouldn't exactly say it is an important part of who I am. On the other hand, the reason why many people attend, which is to see a particular performer in a particular role, doesn't seem to be included. I shall have to put that down under Other. The list is something of a nonsense Fonty, you are right to query it. As I have received similar (maybe identical) attempts at social science polling from different Arts Council-supported organisations I can only imagine that the ROH is required to gather this non-data as part of the Maoist requirements that lie behind receiving ACE support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane S Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 I would ignore 1 - 16 and under 17 I would put 'I like ballet.' 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, Jane S said: I would ignore 1 - 16 and under 17 I would put 'I like ballet.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 I've stopped doing surveys because of the ludicrous questions they ask. As they are nearly all the same no matter which theatre or company they have come from I think Geoff is correct in that it is the Arts Council that requires this. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob S Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 I filled one out on someone's behalf... 17. I like people hearing me shout BRAVO! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penelopesimpson Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 11 hours ago, Anna C said: It obviously wasn’t very clear to everyone that it was a joke. No, you’re right. Predictably there’s always the usual suspects.... You really would have to be ?....?......I know not what to take offence at such an innocuous statement. Puzzled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penelopesimpson Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Frankenstein tanked. They papered like mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 10 hours ago, penelopesimpson said: No, you’re right. Predictably there’s always the usual suspects.... You really would have to be ?....?......I know not what to take offence at such an innocuous statement. Puzzled I don’t understand your implication or “?....?......”. Personally, had I written something I thought funny but that other people did not, I would assume the lack of clarity was *my* mistake as the author, not theirs as the reader. Anyway, perhaps we could get back on topic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Quite Anna (I always find that if I laugh at my own joke and no-one else is laughing then it's not a joke!). I would love to see Scenes de Ballet again. Does anyone think there is any chance of that being revived any time soon? (I would also like BRB to do it again). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangorballetboy Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, Jan McNulty said: I would love to see Scenes de Ballet again. Does anyone think there is any chance of that being revived any time soon? (I would also like BRB to do it again). I’m hoping for season after next - in a lovely Ashton triple bill. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyTurk Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) Not sure if I should attach a link for the sake of protocol or practicality, but I just read a recent Russian interview with Osipova that suggested O'Hare is intending to bring back the likes of Dante's Inferno and Swan Lake next season since the audience/dancers/artists involved missed out on them. She also talks about her life post-quarantine if that interests anybody, and how all of the rest of the company are coping with company-led classes they do in the morning together spearheaded by instructors like Brian. Edit: I'll just go ahead and attach the link: https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4316257 Edited April 8, 2020 by HappyTurk 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, HappyTurk said: Not sure if I should attach a link for the sake of protocol or practicality, but I just read a recent Russian interview with Osipova that suggested O'Hare is intending to bring back the likes of Dante's Inferno and Swan Lake next season since the audience/dancers/artists involved missed out on them. She also talks about her life post-quarantine if that interests anybody, and how all of the rest of the company are coping with company-led classes they do in the morning together spearheaded by instructors like Brian. Edit: I'll just go ahead and attach the link: https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4316257 Thank you - she always comes across so well in interviews. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SugarPlum2000 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 23 minutes ago, HappyTurk said: Not sure if I should attach a link for the sake of protocol or practicality, but I just read a recent Russian interview with Osipova that suggested O'Hare is intending to bring back the likes of Dante's Inferno and Swan Lake next season since the audience/dancers/artists involved missed out on them. She also talks about her life post-quarantine if that interests anybody, and how all of the rest of the company are coping with company-led classes they do in the morning together spearheaded by instructors like Brian. Edit: I'll just go ahead and attach the link: https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4316257 I’m possibly just being completely dumb here but how do I switch it from Russian to English or do i just have to copy into translate? 🤦🏼♀️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyTurk Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SugarPlum2000 said: I’m possibly just being completely dumb here but how do I switch it from Russian to English or do i just have to copy into translate? 🤦🏼♀️ Not dumb at all! Normally, when I click on non-English interviews, I immediately get a notification from Google translate on the top right of my phone/laptop screen that asks me if I want to translate it into English. Sometimes, it doesn't pop up so I have to click out and re-enter the page until I get the notification. But I will say it is much easier to get the whole thing translated by Google translate on my laptop. Sometimes, it lags on my phone. Edited April 8, 2020 by HappyTurk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Wall Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) Noticed this on the SFB (San Francisco Ballet) website: SAN FRANCISCO, April 2, 2020—San Francisco Ballet’s November 11–15 tour to the National Ballet of Canada (NBC) has been cancelled, announced earlier today by the NBC. The cancellations result from extraordinary challenges presented by COVID-19: “These unprecedented circumstances have required us to make changes to the 2020/21 season including the postponement of the company’s appearance at the Royal Opera House in London, the world premiere of Wayne McGregor’s MADDADDAM, the North American premiere of Cathy Marston’s Victoria and the guest appearance by San Francisco Ballet,” the NBC stated today in their press release. Edited April 9, 2020 by Bruce Wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Bruce Wall said: Noticed this on the SFB (San Francisco Ballet) website: SAN FRANCISCO, April 2, 2020—San Francisco Ballet’s November 11–15 tour to the National Ballet of Canada (NBC) has been cancelled, announced earlier today by the NBC. The cancellations result from extraordinary challenges presented by COVID-19: “These unprecedented circumstances have required us to make changes to the 2020/21 season including the postponement of the company’s appearance at the Royal Opera House in London, the world premiere of Wayne McGregor’s MADDADDAM, the North American premiere of Cathy Marston’s Victoria and the guest appearance by San Francisco Ballet,” the NBC stated today in their press release. They were supposed to be appearing at the ROH? Have I missed something, or is that why you posted in the RB thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Wall Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, alison said: They were supposed to be appearing at the ROH? Have I missed something, or is that why you posted in the RB thread? This I assume was meant for the ROH (Royal Opera House) 2020/21 announcement which we have not thus far had - unless I somehow missed it. I'm looking forward to the announcement that bangorballetboy has kindly told us will be coming this week re: the ROH trajectory post 19th April. Perhaps we will get some greater clarity on a number of issues by end tomorrow. Fingers crossed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, alison said: They were supposed to be appearing at the ROH? Have I missed something, or is that why you posted in the RB thread? Yes, they were doing Sleeping Beauty at the ROH in July. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 If I read it correctly the bit about the ROH appearance is part of a statement from the National Ballet of Canada, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Lizbie1 said: If I read it correctly the bit about the ROH appearance is part of a statement from the National Ballet of Canada, though? Yes, it is. But relevant to performances at the ROH later in the year which is I assume why Bruce posted it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, bridiem said: Yes, it is. But relevant to performances at the ROH later in the year which is I assume why Bruce posted it here. But I think there is some confusion here about whether it refers to NBC or SFB. Unless I’ve missed the point! ETA: I think the NBC cancellation had already been noted on these forums. Edited April 9, 2020 by Lizbie1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lizbie1 said: But I think there is some confusion here about whether it refers to NBC or SFB. Unless I’ve missed the point! ETA: I think the NBC cancellation had already been noted on these forums. I see what you mean! I think it is NBC saying its tour to London is cancelled and I had assumed the reference to SFB was a visit SFB was doing @ NBC (though maybe not). (And yes, I realise that the NBC cancellation had already been noted on another thread.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oncnp Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Going to the website just now the page header about performances being canceled until April 16 is no longer appearing. Perhaps they are updating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Wall Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, bridiem said: I see what you mean! I think it is NBC saying its tour to London is cancelled and I had assumed the reference to SFB was a visit SFB was doing @ NBC (though maybe not). (And yes, I realise that the NBC cancellation had already been noted on another thread.) It was, as I think I said, from the SFB (San Francisco Ballet) website. It notes several things including the SFB's cancellation of an appearance in Canada in November AND postponement of the ROH (Royal Opera House) appearance at an unspecified 20/21 time. Sorry if what they wrote was not clear. Perhaps it was my fault for not including the SFB link which you will find here. Edited April 9, 2020 by Bruce Wall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob S Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 43 minutes ago, oncnp said: Going to the website just now the page header about performances being canceled until April 16 is no longer appearing. Perhaps they are updating? Bit weird, they reinstated info about productions and dates sometime last week after removing virtually everything. I don't see anything going ahead for the rest of the season though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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