Booklover89 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 After seeing this on Wednesday, and enjoying Parts I and III, my next thoughts were how they would revive it. Does it necessarily need an older female lead to convince? And would it be as good without Ms Ferri? I would really like to see Zenaida Yanowsky in the Ferri role...has she ever done any McGregor? She doesn't seem to be in his group of regular dancers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Both she and McGregor comment about age and using a dancer in her 50's, with all the experience and 'baggage' she brings. This reminds me of a recurring thought through the various performances I've seen: if she'd been at the Paris Opera Ballet, she'd have been forcibly retired a decade earlier. I think that says pretty much all there is to say about that policy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambros1a Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 After seeing this on Wednesday, and enjoying Parts I and III, my next thoughts were how they would revive it. Does it necessarily need an older female lead to convince? And would it be as good without Ms Ferri? Can't imagine this without Ferri... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Macmillan Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 ..... and that might very well consign this piece to the archives after a single run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Ferri is an incredibly tough act to follow....but I can imagine it with Zen or Laura Morera. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) Ferri is an incredibly tough act to follow....but I can imagine it with Zen or Laura Morera.Or how about Viviana Durante (remember her Anastasia, just one example)? She lives in London too. Edited May 25, 2015 by Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Wall Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) Or how about Viviana Durante (remember her Anastasia, just one example)? She lives in London too. Does Ferri LIVE in London, Geoff? I had thought otherwise. Another suggestion - one - although not resident in this fair city as far as I am aware - but who had certainly guested for a few performances with the RB in the past and is without hesitation 'a name' cherished by balletomanes of a similar vintage to those emboldened by the heights of Ferri's prime - would be Nina Ananiashvili. In the picture below provided by ABT principal M. Gomes yesterday you can see that she is still taking class en pointe. I should think - should the RB management be again searching for someone 'outside' their current realm - (and I agree that both Yanowsky and Morera - or, say, the glorious Deirdre Chapman of the more recent RB acclaim as I suggested in an earlier post - would be more than fine in this assignment) - that she might - just might - make a good fist of the death throws of McGregor's VW. I would love to see Muntagirov or Ball in the Bonelli string. https://instagram.com/p/3EnSqiiuRh/ Edited May 25, 2015 by Bruce Wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxDaveM Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 If Ms Ferri can't do the next run (and I'd be amazed if they didn't run it at least one more time in the near future), then Mara Galeazzi would appear the natural choice, as she has been cover for this run... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beryl H Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I think the fact that Alessandra Ferri has danced every performance is why there has been no second cast for the Federico Bonelli roles, it would be nice next time to have at least 2 really different casts for every ballet, I could see Lauren Cuthbertson as Virginia Woolf, she has the artistry and maturity to dance an older person, and we are happily accepting Bonelli as the husband, who was as old as Virginia surely? I'm so pleased the rail strike was cancelled and I can see it for the 4th time tomorrow, if there were more performances in the summer I would be trying to get tickets! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonty Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) No offence to Galeazzi, whose performances I used to enjoy very much, but she isn't quite the superstar that Ferri was/is. I think it really does need someone with both the maturity and the exceptional artistic skills to pull it off, and I am sure her name pulled in a lot of people as well. I don't know that much about Ananiashvili, but love the idea of Durante. Edited May 25, 2015 by Fonty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) Interesting that London is currently home to both Guillem and Ferri Does Ferri LIVE in London, Geoff? I had thought otherwise.Perhaps the two of you can argue this out, I have no further information! Edited May 25, 2015 by Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyTaylor Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Actually this did convert me to Wayne McGregor and I only booked because I was lucky enough to sit on the same table as Gary Avis at the Ballet Association dinner and he talked about it . I thought it was stunning and was blown away by Alessandra Ferri who I had never seen live on stage. Act 1 was my favourite, Act 2 my least. But overall, the experience was very exciting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MargaretN7 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Am I the only one who can see the oak tree in Act 2? (In the novel the tree itself and the poem Orlando is writing about it feature throughout) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I can't say I noticed it: where was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I hadn't either, but being in row W of the amphi I probably missed a lot! Will keep an eye open tomorrow night when I will be sitting lower down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxDaveM Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Am I the only one who can see the oak tree in Act 2? The one with the yellow ribbon round it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanartus Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 :-) brightened up my morning! Re earlier thread re alternatives to Ferri: I'd add Leanne Benjamin to the list. I would have loved to have seen second cast for second part, but stupidly double booked Guillem. Still two friends of mine are very happy! I saw first and second performances and it still resonates. An amazing piece. And I don't think I heard people talking so much about what they'd seen in the intervals. Or people being so moved after the performance. I know it would be treating WW as a Matthew Bourne type show, but I could see a three week run (given more than one complete cast) outside of the actual season and possibly in a new venue (if technology allows). Really pleased most of the critics really liked it, but thought Telegraph surprisingly and unfairly harsh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacqueline Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Perhaps the two of you can argue this out, I have no further information! For clarity, regarding my comment about London 'currently being home' to both Ferri and Guillem, I was referring to the fact that both dancers are appearing in London theatres at this time. I felt it interesting to be able to compare and contrast these two uniquely talented women. Close in age, one about to retire from dance and the other returning to the stage. I presume London is their home for the duration although I understand Miss Ferri lives in America and Miss Guillem mainly in Switzerland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 thought Telegraph surprisingly and unfairly harsh. Me too, having read the review the same day I went to see the performance. But he's a critic, and critics are paid to have opinions ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanartus Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Me too, having read the review the same day I went to see the performance. But he's a critic, and critics are paid to have opinions ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanartus Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 ...Jann Parry surprisingly harsh too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aileen Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 There was another very harsh review from, I think, The Arts Desk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 but thought Telegraph surprisingly and unfairly harsh. Interestingly, quite a lot of people seem to concur with the kind of view expressed in the Telegraph but they are saying so rather than going into print on the Forum. Someone mentioned to me that it had become fashionable to like WW and it was therefore difficult to swim against the tide. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanartus Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I guess The Spectator captured both views in Ismene's review... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Interestingly, quite a lot of people seem to concur with the kind of view expressed in the Telegraph but they are saying so rather than going into print on the Forum. Someone mentioned to me that it had become fashionable to like WW and it was therefore difficult to swim against the tide. Well, swimming against the tide can be very difficult, it's true, but if people didn't do it then where would we be? If you ask me, there's not enough of it. And God forbid that "fashion" should influence anyone's views on anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 ...Jann Parry surprisingly harsh too... There was another very harsh review from, I think, The Arts Desk. Parry's, I thought, was fair. I decided to ignore the Arts Desk one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MargaretN7 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 The one with the yellow ribbon round it? If the oak tree in Act 2 had a yellow ribbon round it, DaveM, it was tied in slow motion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesrhblack Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Looking forward to tonight. Astonishing though that with a sold out house and a queue for returns there are no programmes available (and the Amphitheatre restaurant isn't open either). Very pleased I made the effort to read Mrs Dalloway (can't say I enjoyed it much) and to find summaries of Orlando and The Waves online, Impresions of the piece to follow in due course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aileen Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I saw the 'second' cast in Becomings last night and, for me, the leads didn't have the same impact as those in the 'first' cast, although the solo to the piano music was very expressive. They couldn't match Osipova and McRae's blazing dancing.The opening actually felt rather flat; strangely, the music didn't seem as loud. I do wonder whether the programme would ever be as effective without the key figures of Ferri, Watson, Osipova and McRae but I suppose that that's been said before in relation to other new work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I thought that Olivia Cowley outdid Osipova last night. Campbell was good but didn't have McRae's 'wow' factor. Itziar Mendizabal was also excellent. A choreographer friend I was with thought that the opening to Becoming was the best part of it, and thought that it was beautifully done. I will try and write a few impressions later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxDaveM Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Fumi Kaneko tore up the stage too, I reckon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Fumi Kaneko tore up the stage too, I reckon. This is good to hear. She is a real talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthE Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Just out of curiosity, does anybody know whose voice the solo soprano in the score of Tuesday (The Waves) is? Finally discovered the answer to this in passing on Twitter - either Kiandra Howarth or Lauren Fagan (both Jette Parker Young Artists). I didn't actually realise it was a live singer - I assumed the voice had been sampled - but Lauren said she and Kiandra had each sung 4 shows. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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