art_enthusiast Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Just now, Lindsay said: Rheingold was also phenomenally expensive, even for Wagner. Yep. I wanted to see it for the first time but chose not to for this reason. Instead, I am hoping to see it elsewhere in Europe - Berlin potentially, I believe it’s on there next year though I need to check this, and see if I can make the dates. Looking further afield than the UK is one of my intentions for this upcoming year, and a lot of the time air travel/accommodation booked early works out cheaper than the good ROH seats for me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MildConcern Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 1 hour ago, art_enthusiast said: Yep. I wanted to see it for the first time but chose not to for this reason. I thought the ENO Rheingold earlier this year was vastly superior to the ROH’s new offering - and very affordable too! But I agree that it is a sad state for our flagship opera house when it works out on par - or perhaps even cheaper - to fly to Munich or Zurich for the same pleasure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 That's because their governments are rather more enlightened about public subsidies 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangorballetboy Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 3 hours ago, MildConcern said: But I agree that it is a sad state for our flagship opera house when it works out on par - or perhaps even cheaper - to fly to Munich or Zurich for the same pleasure. I paid £25 for my Rheingold ticket, not sure I could fly to either of those cities for that price! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art_enthusiast Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 22 minutes ago, bangorballetboy said: I paid £25 for my Rheingold ticket, not sure I could fly to either of those cities for that price! Referring to the higher priced seats here. They tend to be more affordable in other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangorballetboy Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 1 minute ago, art_enthusiast said: Referring to the higher priced seats here. They tend to be more affordable in other countries. The post to which I responded said absolutely nothing about higher priced seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emeralds Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 The poor sales (so far) of DQ, Cellist/Anemoi, Dante were predictable back in summer. From the prices and the casting, same for Rheingold and Forza. There are actually cheap seats (quite a bargain) for Cellist/Anemoi and Dante to be found (and not significantly restricted view) but the booking website doesn’t make it easy for newbies to find them. I’m not going to DQ, C/A and TDP because I’ve seen all the casts I want to see already. It’s also a very very packed autumn- when you cut out the rail industrial action dates, the remaining evenings all have at least 2 or 3 productions that I want to see that I haven’t seen before, so seeing DQ again for the nth time has to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsay Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 7 hours ago, bangorballetboy said: I paid £25 for my Rheingold ticket, not sure I could fly to either of those cities for that price! Could I ask what priority group you book in to get that ticket please? I tried repeatedly for cheaper tickets both at general booking and through stalking the site for returns and failed for the first time ever. Suspect that many who normally book ‘better’ seats were forced into the cheaper seats by the pricing this time… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art_enthusiast Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 10 hours ago, Lindsay said: Could I ask what priority group you book in to get that ticket please? That’s the balcony standing ticket price - of course more must be available for friends with early booking, but you can sometimes find returns. I saw 1 or 2 available last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MildConcern Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 11 hours ago, Lindsay said: Could I ask what priority group you book in to get that ticket please? I’m not the one you asked, but I paid that price for SCS Rheingold. I have the lowest level of Friend priority and there were a good few available on the (stressful!) autumn booking day, though if I recall correctly they went rather quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LH Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 On 24/09/2023 at 22:36, Richard LH said: Looks like Sae Maeda and Sophie Allnatt will be dancing as Kitri's friends. In another cast, Mica Bradbury also looks to be one of the two Friends but I don't know who her "sister" Friend will be in that cast. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Perregrino Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) And the next (7th) Espada to be revealed is Valentino Zucchetti who will dance on 7/10 matinee, 13/10 & 17/10. Source VZ IG Edited September 26, 2023 by PeterS 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art_enthusiast Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 On 25/09/2023 at 12:13, MildConcern said: I thought the ENO Rheingold earlier this year was vastly superior to the ROH’s new offering - and very affordable too! I totally missed that unfortunately, I was completely unaware that they were doing it for some reason! Was their version in English? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art_enthusiast Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, PeterS said: And the next (7th) Espada to be revealed is Valentino Zucchetti who will dance on 7/10 matinee, 13/10 & 17/10. Source VZ IG Good to know that he's recovered from injuries and is back on stage! Does anyone know who Espada/Mercedes are on the 4th? Edited September 26, 2023 by art_enthusiast 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob S Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 James Hay is Gamache!! 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 10 hours ago, art_enthusiast said: That’s the balcony standing ticket price - of course more must be available for friends with early booking, but you can sometimes find returns. I saw 1 or 2 available last week. I think a couple of good Balcony standing tickets are included in Friday Rush - D30 & 31? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaM Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 6 hours ago, PeterS said: And the next (7th) Espada to be revealed is Valentino Zucchetti who will dance on 7/10 matinee, 13/10 & 17/10. Source VZ IG 7 Espadas!!! I obviously haven’t been following as closely as others. Who are the known Espadas and dates? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaM Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Looks like Hanna Park is Queen of Dryads https://www.instagram.com/p/CxqrRQOolqI/?igshid=MWZjMTM2ODFkZg== and Sae Maeda is Amour https://www.instagram.com/p/CxpzjABogKR/?igshid=MWZjMTM2ODFkZg== 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnstar Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Rob S said: James Hay is Gamache!! I had wondered whether, after his Stepsister last season, he might do Sancho Panza, given that role's usually done by shorter dancers. Gamache did not cross my mind though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linnzi5 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 8 hours ago, PeterS said: And the next (7th) Espada to be revealed is Valentino Zucchetti who will dance on 7/10 matinee, 13/10 & 17/10. Source VZ IG 7? How interesting! (Must have missed some of them being announced!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Perregrino Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) Comment withdrawn for further consideration Edited September 26, 2023 by PeterS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, art_enthusiast said: I totally missed that unfortunately, I was completely unaware that they were doing it for some reason! Was their version in English? Yes it was. Fwiw I don’t agree the ENO show was better. ROH has the better cast, more coherent staging and, above all, a wonderful balance between the orchestra and clear diction from the singers resulting in an authentic Wagner sound London audiences have not heard in many years. More on that point in this review: https://theartsdesk.com/opera/das-rheingold-royal-opera-knotty-riveting-route-destruction Edited September 27, 2023 by Geoff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Perregrino Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 12 hours ago, FionaE said: 7 Espadas!!! I obviously haven’t been following as closely as others. Who are the known Espadas and dates? to clarify, the 7, now 8 Espadas that I have heard about are a result of hearsay. the two declared to date are: Lukas BB who danced at the Insight and Valentino Zucchetti who posted to IG yesterday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 13 hours ago, JohnS said: I think a couple of good Balcony standing tickets are included in Friday Rush - D30 & 31? Yes they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linnzi5 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 9 hours ago, PeterS said: to clarify, the 7, now 8 Espadas that I have heard about are a result of hearsay. the two declared to date are: Lukas BB who danced at the Insight and Valentino Zucchetti who posted to IG yesterday. Intriguing! I can't wait to find out more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LH Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Pleased to notice a good feature of the ROH Website...the bottom of the Cast Sheets page includes "Past Cast Sheets", currently linking to the full cast lists for 21/22 and 22/23. https://www.roh.org.uk/about/cast-sheets 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LH Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 53 minutes ago, Richard LH said: Pleased to notice a good feature of the ROH Website...the bottom of the Cast Sheets page includes "Past Cast Sheets", currently linking to the full cast lists for 21/22 and 22/23. https://www.roh.org.uk/about/cast-sheets Unforunately as @Bluebird has pointed out elsewhere, it seems that the feature has yet to be properly sorted out, as various earlier links only go to the dreaded "Error 500". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oncnp Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Richard LH said: Unforunately as @Bluebird has pointed out elsewhere, it seems that the feature has yet to be properly sorted out, as various earlier links only go to the dreaded "Error 500". The link to past casting has been there for some time with the same problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Does anyone know who will be dancing the leads in the friends rehearsal for Don Q this saturday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linnzi5 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Fairy said: Does anyone know who will be dancing the leads in the friends rehearsal for Don Q this saturday? I'm going to this (if I can manage to actually get to Covent Garden because of the train strike). I think I'm right in saying that usually it's the evening before if it's a matinee? Or even on the morning? I'm sure someone here will remember better than me what usually happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Fairy said: Does anyone know who will be dancing the leads in the friends rehearsal for Don Q this saturday? If recent practice is anything to go by, the cast sheet should go up on the day. It isn't normal RB practice to announce General Rehearsal casting in advance and I think that we respect that custom on here as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnstar Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 I hope it will turn out to be one of the casts I'm thinking of seeing. Not because I'm going to the rehearsal (I'm not a Friend & the train strike would make it impossible even if I was) but because I'm trying to whittle down 5 Kitri/Basilio pairings I would like to see down to 3 & knowing some of the supporting casting might help to break my deadlock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linnzi5 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Fairy said: Does anyone know who will be dancing the leads in the friends rehearsal for Don Q this saturday? I just saw I had an email this morning about the rehearsal on Saturday and it says on it that cast sheets will be available on the website on Saturday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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