Wulff Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 To the best of my recollection this music has been used in a previous RB production. It is in fact the variation for the Hungarian princess in the original score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulff Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Further to my previous post, I have just checked out the music and it is part of No19 in the full score Act III pas de six (andante con moto). This item is for the 6 potential brides, each one having her own variation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninamargaret Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 14 hours ago, Sim said: Have just watched it and am very impressed. I think I may finally be ready to forgive Liam for Frankenstein. if you can bear to watch it the Frankenstein Insight on You Tube shows him very much. as an active participant. Some pretty nifty partnering skills shown by him! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I don't think I could bear it, Ninamargaret, so will content myself with how well he did on the Insight with his dancing and partnering last night!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 18 hours ago, Blossom said: I loved Scarlett’s passion for the history, the music, the storytelling 18 hours ago, Odyssey said: I share Mary's view about Liam Scarlett after hearing him speak so fervently about his love and respect for this ballet. That was obvious from his Frankenstein insight, too. At the time, I commented that I got more from his performance in the insight evening than I did from any of the dancers onstage in the actual performances. I hope that won't be the situation this time around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Before the Insight started last night, the audience in the Clore was reminded about the Insight on the 15th May which, among other things, would feature Kevin O'Hare rehearsing William Bracewell for Swan Lake. There are still tickets available: https://www.roh.org.uk/events/37559/tickets?q=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000&p=2989dbf9-9a94-4647-994f-6d9f3094cd27&ts=1526055230&c=rohuk&e=20180511fridayrush&rt=AfterEvent&h=fe2998b8d66b991b511f8952cc9633e0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Is that one being live-streamed as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penelopesimpson Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Okay, ignorance showing here and I haven't seen the Insight yet but....why has Swan Lake got a Spanish Dance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob S Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, penelopesimpson said: Okay, ignorance showing here and I haven't seen the Insight yet but....why has Swan Lake got a Spanish Dance? Because that's what goes best with the Spanish music segment 😄 Edited May 11, 2018 by Rob S 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 It always does :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MargaretN7 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 36 minutes ago, penelopesimpson said: Okay, ignorance showing here and I haven't seen the Insight yet but....why has Swan Lake got a Spanish Dance? Because one of the princesses, attending as a potential bride for the prince, is Spanish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob S Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, MargaretN7 said: Because one of the princesses, attending as a potential bride for the prince, is Spanish. Is she? You normally have six princesses, they tend to be dressed the same and they are the ones that get looked up and down by the prince....and you have four or sometimes five national dances at the ball, Spanish, Polish, Hungarian, Italian and Russian. The last Swan Lake I saw had no princesses and the prince checked out the five lead females from the national dances instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxDaveM Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 29 minutes ago, Rob S said: Is she? You normally have six princesses, they tend to be dressed the same and they are the ones that get looked up and down by the prince....and you have four or sometimes five national dances at the ball, Spanish, Polish, Hungarian, Italian and Russian. The last Swan Lake I saw had no princesses and the prince checked out the five lead females from the national dances instead. its amongst the changes Liam doing to make it all more logical. As John McFarlane said - six princesses turning up at a ball all with the same dress and accessories??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 30 minutes ago, Rob S said: Is she? You normally have six princesses, they tend to be dressed the same and they are the ones that get looked up and down by the prince....and you have four or sometimes five national dances at the ball, Spanish, Polish, Hungarian, Italian and Russian. The last Swan Lake I saw had no princesses and the prince checked out the five lead females from the national dances instead. It's one of those things that varies between productions: the first time I saw a hitherto-unknown-to-me Osipova was as an electrifying Spanish bride at the Bolshoi in 2005. I still have the cast sheet, annotated with a simple "Wow!" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob S Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, zxDaveM said: its amongst the changes Liam doing to make it all more logical. As John McFarlane said - six princesses turning up at a ball all with the same dress and accessories??? I hope they address the issue of why Rothbart a) is invited to the ball and b) why he gets to sit so close to the queen. I presume the Act 3 set design will include a lot more seating as currently there only seems to be a throne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 And here it is 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob S Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 One Spanish girl and four blokes.....that looks familiar, Mr Scarlett 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxDaveM Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 56 minutes ago, Rob S said: I hope they address the issue of why Rothbart a) is invited to the ball and b) why he gets to sit so close to the queen. see act one... (in the new production) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandra Newman Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 http://www.roh.org.uk/insights/insights-swan-lake-and-me and there are 3 further Insights In these events, dancers of The Royal Ballet talk about the challenges of taking on some of ballet's most iconic and demanding roles, and how they prepare for a performance. I just wish ROH would indicate which dancers will talk on which date! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliceinwoolfland Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 ^ Are they likely to be principals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandra Newman Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) as they will be talking about dancing "...most iconic and demanding roles..." I guess they will be the Odettes/Odiles and the Prince Siegfrieds, perhaps also those dancing Benno and Rothbart. Edited May 11, 2018 by Xandra Newman Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 I love how the Bolshoi's version has the princesses as the leads in the national dances. It makes so much sense! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 6 hours ago, Sim said: I love how the Bolshoi's version has the princesses as the leads in the national dances. It makes so much sense! Grigorovich's production for the Bolshoi is often much-maligned, but this aspect of it is spot-on. And Liam Scarlett has admitted that his early preparations involved watching virtually every version of Swan Lake known to man! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 16 hours ago, ninamargaret said: if you can bear to watch it the Frankenstein Insight on You Tube shows him very much. as an active participant. Some pretty nifty partnering skills shown by him! I quite agree ninamargaret (although I don't need much encouragement to watch Frankenstein and am keen to see its revival with whatever tweakings are made). I thought Liam Scarlett incredibly expressive when demonstrating what he wanted from his various Frankenstein characters. I've very much enjoyed seeing him when dancing in his earlier career and am pleased that some of his performances are on DVD. I shall look forward to catching up on this Swan Lake Insight later, particularly in light of all the favourable comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penelopesimpson Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 On 11/05/2018 at 18:58, Lizbie1 said: It's one of those things that varies between productions: the first time I saw a hitherto-unknown-to-me Osipova was as an electrifying Spanish bride at the Bolshoi in 2005. I still have the cast sheet, annotated with a simple "Wow!" My goodness me. Wow indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penelopesimpson Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 On 11/05/2018 at 17:39, Rob S said: Because that's what goes best with the Spanish music segment 😄 Well, ask a silly question! I think I have only ever seen Swan Lake twice and couldn't remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxDaveM Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 On 11/05/2018 at 21:05, Xandra Newman said: http://www.roh.org.uk/insights/insights-swan-lake-and-me and there are 3 further Insights In these events, dancers of The Royal Ballet talk about the challenges of taking on some of ballet's most iconic and demanding roles, and how they prepare for a performance. I just wish ROH would indicate which dancers will talk on which date! Yes indeed - especially as you could only buy two out of the three, so I'm psyching myself up not to be too gutted if my fave dancer is at the one I'm not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangorballetboy Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, zxDaveM said: Yes indeed - especially as you could only buy two out of the three, so I'm psyching myself up not to be too gutted if my fave dancer is at the one I'm not! And there’s still a two tickets per person limit across these 3 insights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 At the live feed Insight last week, the person who told us to switch off our phones also mentioned that Kevin O'Hare would be coaching William Bracewell in a Swan Lake solo tonight. Where was everyone? The Clore was half empty but both the discussion on creating dance (with O'Hare, Arthur Pita and Kate Flatt) and the coaching session were very interesting - and Bracewell's dancing was superb (in a solo for Siegfried which will bridge Acts 1 and 2). So pleased to have a ticket to see him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Quite a few of us were at Sadler's Wells ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penelopesimpson Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Can anybody tell me, do I have to join Facebook to be able to see the Swan Lake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petunia Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 No, you don't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRR Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Link to the rehearsal: http://www.roh.org.uk/news/watch-insights-into-the-royal-ballets-new-swan-lake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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