MAB Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 So, let me get this straight. To see Osipova dance, I now have to wait until a foreign ballet company visits ROH where this Royal Ballet Principal will perform at super-inflated prices? Sorry, but it seems rum to me. I see nothing 'rum' at all in a dancer giving a few performances with a company that taught her, nurtured her and gave her the opportunities to become the outstanding dancer that she is today. 'Foreign' ballet company? I prefer the term visiting. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasdedeux Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 So, let me get this straight. To see Osipova dance, I now have to wait until a foreign ballet company visits ROH where this Royal Ballet Principal will perform at super-inflated prices? Sorry, but it seems rum to me. Or you could catch her in Rhapsody, Giselle or the new Wheeldon with the RB. Despite cancellations, that's still more than Marquez and Yanowsky have upcoming. With so much opportunity with to see Osipova in London, I'd rather see the other Bolshoi talents in July anyway. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Macmillan Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Frankly, I've had enough of all this and would happily never see her again. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aileen Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I'd like to see Flames, Corsaire and Don Q. I find the Shrew story very unpalatable and the Bolshoi's Swan Lake did not appeal to me last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mummykool Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Frankly, I've had enough of all this and would happily never see her again. What a lot of acrimony there seems to be on this forum at the moment. I'm getting to the point I no longer wish to be a part of it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naomi M Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 I have seen Bolshoi's Taming of the Shrew in St Petersburg (as a part of the Dance Open Festival) and that is very different from the Cranko version. There is no signs of misogyny shown in the original story, very modern, stylish but passionate and sometimes a bit sensual. I loved it. And it is very enjoyable. The dancers featured in this production are excellent. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxDaveM Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 So, let me get this straight. To see Osipova dance, I now have to wait until a foreign ballet company visits ROH where this Royal Ballet Principal will perform at super-inflated prices? Sorry, but it seems rum to me. Whilst I also don't like stumping up the cost of Bolshoi tickets either, they are the 'going rate'. We are somewhat spoiled at the RB prices, as they are subsidised a bit, which allows us to get the sub-£10 standing places for example (often more like £18 for the Russian visits). Also, as others have said, Ms Osipova is down to dance a fair bit in the spring schedule, where we can all enjoy her performances - and at lower cost too! :-) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 The live screenings have provided a wonderful opportunity to have a look at some of these dancers and get to know a few of them which makes their arrival in reality even more exciting- Zhakarova, Alexandrova, Rodkin, Chudin, Krysanova, Smirnova, Lantratov- really exceptional dancers by anyone's standards and I will be happy, delighted, to save up to see them- can't wait. ....it's a lot easier than going to Moscow ( where I may never go...) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Macmillan Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I understand from colleagues that my post late last night (No 36, above), whilst garnering Likes from some, has caused offence to others. That was not my intention and, where applicable, I apologise. That said, those of us who help run this Forum are no less entitled to express views within the bounds of our Acceptable Use Policy than are other Forum members. However, if in this case a degree of unwonted vehemence has crept in, let me re-phrase things to say that, personally, I'd be happy were a temporary moratorium to emerge here on the matter of Ms Osipova. Whether it does will be a matter for users generally. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? You good folk out there, it seems.... I fear that my Latin will no longer quite stretch to rendering that reply appropriately. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Q Fan Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I quite understand where you are coming from I think it's dancer fatigue in my case so I'll be looking forward to seeing some different dancers as latterly my expectations have not been met. I'm really hoping Shipulina comes too! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Well I am very excited about the Bolshoi visit and the opportunity to see all the dancers. I do hope Obraztsova will be coming as I would love to see her again, as well as some of the younger dancers. I missed Corsaire in 2010 so, having seen the cinema broadcast will be booking for that. I think I will give Swan Lake a miss though. It seems that this may be Sergei Filin's final London tour so I hope it will be memorable for all the right reasons - and not for mishaps and injuries! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Q Fan Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Very very disappointed to see on ROH website today that there is no midweek or Saturday matinee of Don Quixote. Don Q I feel is preferable to the Bolshoi's Swan Lake. This will now necessitate a costly overnight stay and time off work if I decide to go (and if I have a new job by then). I know you can't please all the people all the time but as this DonQ is, IMHO, the definitive version I'm really unhappy. I'm not that fussed on any of the other ballets they're bringing this time, seems such a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? You good folk out there, it seems.... I fear that my Latin will no longer quite stretch to rendering that reply appropriately. 'nil carborundum illegitimi' would be my advice, Ian Back to the Bolshoi. I will certainly scrape out my wallet to see Zakharova again, and would dearly love to see Smirnova, which may involve auctioning a spare kidney. I don't think Obraztsova is down to come, which is a shame, as I find her a beautifully expressive dancer with minimal flashiness. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Q Fan Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Agree it is another shame if Obratsova doesn't come. Hopefully I will get to see Shipulina with Lantratov and maybe Alexandrova and Smirnova, those are the ones I would ideally like to see this time, we just need casting now - I assume as booking to general public is early April they may announce provisional casting shortly before then, although ROH Friends booking is March (!!) and Hochhauser usually have a priority booking for subscribers before general as well. Based on past experience and barring injury I would imagine Zakharova would open the tour with the first DonQ, but who knows.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naomi M Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 For your information, there is a gala in Japan this July by the impresario Japan Arts, which Zakharova, Lopatkina, Lobuhin, Ferri, Cornejo, Gomes and Ananiashivilli will participate, dates are July 23-27 and I believe this overlaps a little with the Bolshoi summer tour Don Quixote. https://www.japanarts.co.jp/concert/concert_detail.php?id=390 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmhopton Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 As Osipova is guesting I would have thought she would open with Don Q (I'm still nurturing faint hopes that Mr Vasiliv will partner her for at least one Don Q and/or Flames. They were sensational together last time). I'm hoping she does a couple of performances of both as both my husband and myself would like to see her but we can't go together because of elderly dogs! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynette H Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 The latest ROH Friends magazine does give a list of prices for the Bolshoi visit, but does not map these onto the seating plan. The prices are just given as a list, it appears to be the same for all productions. . £135, £120, £105, £90, £77, £63, £55, £48, £34, £25, £20, £15, £10. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasdedeux Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) The latest ROH Friends magazine does give a list of prices for the Bolshoi visit, but does not map these onto the seating plan. The prices are just given as a list, it appears to be the same for all productions. . £135, £120, £105, £90, £77, £63, £55, £48, £34, £25, £20, £15, £10. That's £4 - £8 increase across any given price band from from the most expensive RB production this season (R&J). To be expected (and still relatively cheap to any opera frequenter) Edited January 20, 2016 by pasdedeux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchkin16 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I'd better get saving, I have a feeling it's going to feel expensive! I don't know whether to choose based on the show or the dancers though, what would be the top pick to see? I don't know all that much about the Bolshoi other than I definitely want to see them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 The latest ROH Friends magazine does give a list of prices for the Bolshoi visit, but does not map these onto the seating plan. The prices are just given as a list, it appears to be the same for all productions. . £135, £120, £105, £90, £77, £63, £55, £48, £34, £25, £20, £15, £10. So it'll be back of the Amphi with a pair of powerful binoculars then, a combination that worked well for me last time to catch Zakharova in Swan Lake - and she was stunning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beryl H Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 As usual it's the cheaper amphi seats that get increased the most, the seat that usually costs me between £21-£35 looks as though it will cost £48, might be able to sit in row S for £34! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMM1 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) I'd better get saving, I have a feeling it's going to feel expensive! I don't know whether to choose based on the show or the dancers though, what would be the top pick to see? I don't know all that much about the Bolshoi other than I definitely want to see them! Well taste is a very individual thing. However I would guess most people would see the Don Q. as a signature piece for the current Bolshoi with Le Corsaire in a similar but slightly lesser vein. The other thing you might want to consider is the rarity of the the ballets. Flames of Paris & this version of Taming of the Shrew don't turn up in London all that often and might not again for some time, if ever. The Bolshoi Swan Lake isn't that well regarded in the UK but that doesn't stop them bringing it every time. Edited January 21, 2016 by RMM1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenore Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Any ideas when casting might be released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akh Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 That's £4 - £8 increase across any given price band from from the most expensive RB production this season (R&J). To be expected (and still relatively cheap to any opera frequenter) Is it not the Hochhausers who bring the Bolshoi over and set the prices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Without any subsidy, it should be noted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billboyd Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 A hefty hotel bill. And very expensive visas and flights. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Q Fan Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Any ideas when casting might be released? see my post #47 above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Q Fan Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 If I could only see one ballet I'd be going for a bravura one like Don Q or Corsaire - get as much bang for my buck as I could. On the subject of Don Q it seems this will be a new version (it better be as good as the old one) I saw a tweet naming the principal pairings for the new Don Q - which will be the one shown in the cinema too in April. I think as far as Osipova goes it will be Polunin not Vasiliev she dances with. The tweet named the following couples for the new Don Quixote:- Alexandrova/Lantratov Kaptsova/Chudin Shipulina Lobukhin Tikhomirova/Ovcharenko Zakharova/Rodkin Osipova/Polunin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenore Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 see my post #47 above. I don't think the post numbers show up on mobile? Unless I'm missing it somewhere (always probable) :-) But I think I know what post you're referring too. I just want to start planning. I'll have to be patient! ???? Also my magazine seems to always turn up so much later than others? Still haven't got it... So didn't realise friends booking opened as early as March. Hoping to see Lantratov & Alexandrova in particular. Any ideas whether taming of the shrew is worth watching? I won't be able to see the upcoming broadcast. No idea what it's like at all, not really familiar with the choreographer. Interesting to see that Polunin is also guesting! Wasn't going to see don q but now I might have to rethink. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Q Fan Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) I should point out the DonQ pairings are general for the Bolshoi not necessarily for the tour to London, but I would imagine we will see some of these pairings. Edited January 22, 2016 by Don Q Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barton22 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Also my magazine seems to always turn up so much later than others? Still haven't got it... So didn't realise friends booking opened as early as March. Hoping to see Lantratov & Alexandrova in particular. Any ideas whether taming of the shrew is worth watching? I won't be able to see the upcoming broadcast. No idea what it's like at all, not really familiar with the choreographer. I think that the ROH probably stages mailings of the magazine depending on the recipients' "booking from" dates. The date on which you receive it likely relates to the booking deadline for your friend/patron member level. There is such a wide spread of booking dates that I'm sure it makes sense to stagger the mailings. There are very substantial chunks of the Bolshoi Taming of the Shrew on YouTube. If you search "bolshoi taming of the shrew" they will come up. There is a 33 minute video of a performance posted by "fiordililia n", for example. There was also 30 minutes or so of footage of the company rehearsing the piece with Maillot himself on World Ballet Day 2014 and the video of that is still up on YouTube (just make sure you get the 2014 one and not last year's) - starting at around 3 hours and 6 minutes in; that is on the Bolshoi's own YouTube channel. Edited January 23, 2016 by barton22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naomi M Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 I saw Taming of the Shrew at the Dance Open Festival in St Petersburg last April, and enjoyed it a lot. It is not a big ballet (not so many performers on stage) but Maillot made the choreography with focusing on virtuoso technique of the Bolshoi dancers so it is not too modern. And less signs of misogyny seen in the Cranko version. There are many fabulous pas de deuxs, creativity and comedy, and usage of Shostskovich music was great. Krysanova, Lantratov, Stashkevich and Chudin, Tikhomirova all brilliant. I loved it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toursenlair Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 If you read French, there is a very interesting in-depth article about the Bolshoi's Shrew on Danses avec la Plume: http://www.dansesaveclaplume.com/en-scene/28635-ballet-du-bolchoi-lame-legere-de-la-megere-apprivoisee-de-jean-christophe-maillot/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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