Kate_N Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 I was at a studio in central London on the weekend, taking class with one of my favourite teachers. Chatting in the change room afterwards to other members of the class, one of them said that she wouldn't be there for the next ten weeks because she was going back to her 'rad classes' (as in a shortening for 'radical.') I thought, Wow! Radical ballet classes! Where? Then I worked out (slow), that she meant R.A. D. classes. I've always pronounced that as Are. Ay. Dee That is, as the initials, rather than made into a word. So how do you pronounce the shortening for the Royal Academy of Dance?
Jan McNulty Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 As a non-dancer I have always thought rad (as in radical).
trog Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 I've only ever heard it as letters, ie are aye dee - same as RADA - the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art. 2
Jan McNulty Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, trog said: I've only ever heard it as letters, ie are aye dee - same as RADA - the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art. I always say rada! I've never heard anyone say are aye dee aye. 2
Picturesinthefirelight Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 I've only ever heard the following Are Ay Dee (RAD) Eye Ess Tee Dee (ISTD) Rahda (RADA) Lippa (LIPA) Are Cee Em (RCM) Lambda (LAMDA) 8
alison Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 As the initials is the standard pronunciation, definitely. 2
Ian Macmillan Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 My wife has been involved with the RAD in various ways for some 70 years, and she insists on "R. A. D." with all letters pronounced separately. Just as I insist that I did some 32 years in the "R. A. F." and none at all in the "RAFF"! 7
Mumofballetmaddaughter Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 Same here as Pictures (and Jan for RADA) I have issues with it in a written format though, is it 'a' or 'an' before RAD? 'An' sounds better if shortened but wouldn't be correct if saying it in full. It's something that my daughter and I disagreed over when she was setting up her website.
Picturesinthefirelight Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 I would say an As in What letter is that on the sign? It is an R.
Picturesinthefirelight Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 IN fact I say an for many letters eg It is spelt with an S not a C. 1
The_Red_Shoes Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 Definitely initials R. A. D. But RADA and LAMDA both pronounced as if a word. I would say "an" before it because that's what sounds right: "an arr-ay-dee exam". 2
Katia05 Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 Definitely R-A-D, each letter pronounced, like the RAF! ISTD the same. But RADA and LAMDA are different.
Kate_N Posted September 4, 2019 Author Posted September 4, 2019 Oh, I'm glad I'm not the one who misunderstood here. I was just a bit taken aback by this person, who kept talking about her "rad ballet course." Then I finally twigged, and went "Oh, you mean R.A.D." Maybe she thought I was being rude ... And I say ISTD as in the initials But RADA and LAMDA as if they are words. Although in my world, "Central" means Central sChool of Speech and Drama, not Central School of Ballet. 1
NJH Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Kate_N said: Oh, I'm glad I'm not the one who misunderstood here. I was just a bit taken aback by this person, who kept talking about her "rad ballet course." Then I finally twigged, and went "Oh, you mean R.A.D." Maybe she thought I was being rude ... And I say ISTD as in the initials But RADA and LAMDA as if they are words. Although in my world, "Central" means Central sChool of Speech and Drama, not Central School of Ballet. people who mispronounce things often do because they first found the term by reading , however i'm unsure how that would parse to RAD classes whether acronyms care pronounced as words or as letters is an interesting topic. Terms are often contextual and the same term can have very different meanings in different contexts, even before we consider those who choose to to wield words as power and take advantage of their privilege.
NJH Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 21 hours ago, Picturesinthefirelight said: IN fact I say an for many letters eg It is spelt with an S not a C. because the first sound in the English pronounciation of a good few letters is a vowel even if the letter itself is a consonant... e.g. eff, aitch, ell, emm, en , arr , ess , exe,
Pas de Quatre Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Kate_N said: Although in my world, "Central" means Central sChool of Speech and Drama, not Central School of Ballet Just to confuse matters more, DD and her fellow graduates from various dance/drama courses always use Central to refer to Central London in general. e.g. we went to Central for a drink.
Viv Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) I also sound out each letter, so therefore I would say 'an' RAD exam. 'An' is used before words or abbreviations starting with a vowel sound, while 'a' is used before words starting with a consonant sound. Because 'RAD' would, as you say, start with the vowel sound 'are', you would use 'an'. However, you would say 'a university' however because university starts with a 'yoo' consonant sound. Sometimes people get confused because they think that the indefinite article changes depending on whether a word is spelled with a vowel or a consonant as the first letter, when really what matters is the sound of the start of the word. Although, if you were saying rad as in radical, you would say 'a rad exam'. Just to confuse things https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/a_3 (proof!) Edited September 5, 2019 by Viv
TYR Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 If you're Renato it's "Those... people in Battersea." *shudder* 1
Kate_N Posted September 6, 2019 Author Posted September 6, 2019 Ha ha ha yes, TYR I’ve heard that and seen the shudder.
invisiblecircus Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 I've only ever heard RAD referred to by the initials and RADA and LAMDA as words. "Central" depends on the context. Usually Central School of Ballet because I'm in the dance field but obviously it's clear that when an actor is talking about where they trained that they mean Central School of Speech and Drama. I've never heard anyone refer to central London in general as "central" and I've lived in London. I've only every heard it referred to as "town." 1
Sheila Beelam Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 18 minutes ago, TYR said: RAD. Like "KGB". Love that analogy 😂 1
Pas de Quatre Posted September 8, 2019 Posted September 8, 2019 12 hours ago, invisiblecircus said: I've never heard anyone refer to central London in general as "central" and I've lived in London. I've only every heard it referred to as "town." Likewise - I think it's a generational thing! They never use "town".
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