Anna C Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Well, I have a single, half an hour bus journey to the ROH and I'm still fussy about casts! Which is fine but like it or not, dancers do get injured. Regardless of ticket price and journey length, we all have to accept that there's a very real chance that a dancer may be out through illness or injury. It's much more depressing for the poor dancer than it is for the audience. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aileen Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 True, but the ROH permits ticket exchanges (up to three days before the performance) for any reason. If it didn't want people to exchange (or sell) their tickets when there are cast changes it wouldn't allow it. It's the (paying) customer's prerogative not to attend a performance if s/he doesn't like the revised cast. I can't really see what everyone is getting so worked up about. R&J at the ROH always sells out. If I return my ticket someone else will be able to go in my place. The ROH will not lose out financially whether I attend or sell or return my ticket. Of course, if a dancer were ill on the day or injured shortly before the performance I would accept that; I wouldn't make a fuss and demand my money back as these things happen. However, if I am given plenty of advance notice of a change of cast it's perfectly reasonable (imo) to sell or return my ticket if I'm not happy with the replacement. Other people may not take that view but that's irrelevant to me. I'm in the fortunate position of not having to make elaborate arrangements to attend a performance at the ROH and so exchanging or selling tickets is something that I do relatively frequently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 In contrast, some much more negative, and sometimes rather personal, remarks have been made about Golding, Soares, Acosta, McRae and others which have not attracted much comment.  Yes, but there is a difference. Those comments, if I remember correctly (insofar as I remember them at all), were made in response to performances by said dancers which had actually taken place. These are extrapolations, assumptions, of what may happen, and how well (or not) certain dancers may perform in a given role, often based on little or no actual experience of them in that role, since several of the dancers in question haven't actually performed it as yet. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Macmillan Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Once upon a time I went all the way to Switzerland for a R&J performance - I lie, it was a J&R performance - and I'd no idea who I might see until I got a programme for the evening. Â Great night, remember it still! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aileen Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I repeat my previous points: I prefer some dancers to others (in certain roles), would prefer not to spend my money on seeing dancers whom I do not particularly like (in certain roles) and feel that it's not others' place to persuade me to spend my time and money seeing dancers whom I do not particularly like (in certain roles). Â I don't think that I can add anything to what I've said above and so I don't propose to contribute to this thread any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Hello Munchkin, Â If you are still reading this thread - did you decide which cast to go for? Â Don't forget to tell us what you thought of the performance too! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchkin16 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 I'm reading and absorbing all the information! Just waiting for my friend to decide on dates so we haven't booked yet but I think I'd love to see Cuthbertson or one of the new couples. If not anything with Vadim has got to be good right 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthE Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Vadim was a lovely Romeo in ENB's version at the Royal Albert Hall... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Vadim was a lovely Romeo in ENB's version at the Royal Albert Hall... Â And in ENB's Nureyev version about 5/6 years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOSS Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited)  To those who are going to buy tickets. The reality is that you will get a pretty good performance whichever cast you see.I have to say that I find the prospect of seeing a cast that managed to secure a full five stars from Clement Crisp but which  only gained muted approval from Mr Monahan of the Telegraph intriguing.Mr. Crisp is usually the critic who expresses modified rapture in response to performance that have exhausted other critics' expressions of enthusiasm.Mr Monahan is usually at the head of the cheerleaders  and I don't always understand his enthusiasms.  Anyone who did not see the streaming of the R and J rehearsal needs to know that it is still available on line and very interesting.It would appear that this revival shows a cleaned version of the  ballet with bits of "business" which weren't part of the original removed. Edited September 22, 2015 by FLOSS 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Well said Floss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barton22 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015  To those who are going to buy tickets. The reality is that you will get a pretty good performance whichever cast you see.I have to say that I find the prospect of seeing a cast that managed to secure a full five stars from Clement Crisp but which  only gained muted approval from Mr Monahan of the Telegraph intriguing.Mr. Crisp is usually the critic who expresses modified rapture in response to performance that have exhausted other critics' expressions of enthusiasm.Mr Monahan is usually at the head of the cheerleaders  and I don't always understand his enthusiasms.  I agree.  All the casts are going to be good in different ways.  I have now seen the Ball/Naghdi cast twice (general rehearsal and schools matinee today) and they are very promising.  Better today having got their first performance in front of an audience out of the way at the general last Friday.  I have been more engaged by them than other casts I remember.  I heard very good things about Hayward in Saturday's matinee.  Cuthbertson will be great.  Unless you have specific likes and dislikes you can't go far wrong with any cast.  Crisp does tend to adore McRae whatever he does and I find him quite extreme and erratic in his views, so I am not that surprised that he gushed over the opening night performance.  Hard to say whether his enthusiasm for it will translate into one's own. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015  I heard very good things about Hayward in Saturday's matinee.  That's great to hear. I've forgotten - were she and Golding dancing a Family Matinee then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barton22 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 That's great to hear. I've forgotten - were she and Golding dancing a Family Matinee then? I believe so, although I wasn't there myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxDaveM Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 . Â I have now seen the Ball/Naghdi cast twice (general rehearsal and schools matinee today) Â Â ...SO jealous!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangorballetboy Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I have now seen the Ball/Naghdi cast twice (general rehearsal and schools matinee today) Â Have you gone back to school? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Macmillan Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 There's a rather charming quarter-page photo of Naghdi and Ball in rehearsal on p4 of today's Times print edition - I can't see it online.  (The pictures editor has been treating us to photos of dancers quite regularly in recent weeks - it was Olga Smirnova in full jeté mode over a third of a page yesterday.) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Macmillan Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Who needs Osipova when you could have the Trocks instead? Â Ismene Brown gets off the fence for World Ballet Day in her latest Spectator column: Â http://new.spectator.co.uk/2015/10/the-best-ballerinas-in-britain-at-the-moment-are-hairy-and-male/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nina G. Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 There's a rather charming quarter-page photo of Naghdi and Ball in rehearsal on p4 of today's Times print edition - I can't see it online.  (The pictures editor has been treating us to photos of dancers quite regularly in recent weeks - it was Olga Smirnova in full jeté mode over a third of a page yesterday.)  Yes the photo occupied a rather large portion of the page!  ...and there is also Graham Spicer's interview with Ball and Naghdi.  http://www.gramilano.com/2015/10/matthew-ball-the-royal-ballets-prince-in-waiting/#comments  http://www.gramilano.com/2015/09/yasmine-naghdi-the-birth-of-a-ballerina/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Macmillan Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 "The Hottest Tutu in Town." Â Fans of Francesca Hayward will want a copy of today's Times 2 supplement, for which she provides the full-length cover picture, leading to a feature inside by Debra Craine built around her forthcoming performance as Juliet. Â Â Edited to add Tweet with picture: Â http://twitter.com/old141nav/status/649865337756884992 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nina G. Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I found it interesting to read how both Naghdi and Ball have credited Johan Kobborg as an influence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 How could any aspiring dancer of the past 15 years NOT be inspired by him?! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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