cavycapers Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 (edited) True, Ellie. Edited August 13, 2016 by cavycapers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sybarite2015@ Posted August 13, 2016 Author Share Posted August 13, 2016 Skorik is indeed a wonderful dancer; i saw her in Swan Lake with the Mariinsky. I haven't yet seen Lopatkina but can't wait to do so. From what I've seen of her she is the most exquisitely beautiful and classical dancer in the world with perfect lines. I adore Zakharova but think in Swan Lake Lopatkina is better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavycapers Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Oh I totally agree, Lopatkina is the person I will always connect with Odette. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Q Fan Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I'm just hoping that the Mariinsky will tour here in 2017 AND bring Swan Lake with them! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 They WILL come next year, but it will be some time before anyone gets a sniff of programming. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Q Fan Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Oh that's great to hear :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanprincess Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Out of curiosity (trying to write a review!) does anyone know the name of the step that Odile does when she extends the leg croise devant then draws it through passe to releve to arabesque? I liked how Odette danced the same step in act 2, suggesting a connection between herself and Odile... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betterankles Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 It is exactly as you describe, croise devant, plus developpee to arabesque with releve on pointe..No other pet name Not normally in Odile solo, just Odette, in the West done three times one side then three the other, in Russia three times one side, then three times same side. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Q Fan Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Anyone point me to a video of this move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VickyPage Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Anyone point me to a video of this move? I think it's this step (she does it at 0:08 and then repeats) that you mean, although she moves to attitude rather than arabesque, so I might be wrong. This is the Bolshoi choreography, but they do it at the Mariinsky too, I think. Edited August 19, 2016 by VickyPage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Q Fan Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Lovely thank you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betterankles Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Not the same step, she passes through to attitude, not developpee. More like it in the Black Swan coda, but much much faster, and consecutive rather then with sissones before... After the fouettees.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VickyPage Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Not the same step, she passes through to attitude, not developpee. More like it in the Black Swan coda, but much much faster, and consecutive rather then with sissones before... After the fouettees.. Right, got it; thank you! I thought that step was probably wrong, because she didn't go through a retire, but I had forgotten about those steps after the fouettes (not in the video unfortunately, Don Q Fan). They fit your description so much better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Q Fan Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Although thanks to this forum I know some steps, most remains double Dutch to me as I do not know the steps or names hence request for a video???? I'd love to learn the technicalities but no idea how or where to start! I remain in awe of those that DO know the steps etc....maybe we could start a thread with video clips of steps and learn that way?!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Dear Don Q Fan, type 'ballet steps' into your browser - and you will get a wide array of links to websites for ballet glossaries, dictionaries, guides, etc., most of them have pictures and some have videos. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Q Fan Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 OK thank you I'll give it a go:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VickyPage Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) Amelia's suggestion is a good one, but if you're still interested in this particular step, thanks to betterankles, I can assure you that what Lopatkina does at 1:14 is the aforementioned movement from the Odette solo. The leg goes through retire (tucked in at the knee) and then she does a developpe (an unfolding motion) to arabesque. Edited August 20, 2016 by VickyPage 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Q Fan Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Thank you got it...and a treat to watch Lopatkina too! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 She is simply the best! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Wall Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 I know there had been some concern that Ovcharenko and Tikhomirova's engagement/marriage plans had not been officially announced. Here is a lovely film made by a Russian Wedding Magazine on the occasion of the official announcement of their engagement in March 2015. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assoluta Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Is there any reason to be concerned "that Ovcharenko and Tikhomirova's engagement/marriage plans had not been officially announced" and even more so to do this in the the Swan Lake, Royal Opera House thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Speculation about dancers' private lives is not encouraged but Bruce has given the link to an official announcement of an engagement. Whilst the link is not directly about Swan Lake, it is probably more efficient to include the link here rather than start a new thread. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavycapers Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Oo-er Bruce, onto the naughty step with you I for one didn't know that they were a couple, but having just seen them dance, I thought it was very interesting. I think if a couple have announced an engagement, nay even made a film about it, it is probably reasonable to talk about it! As that both dance for the Boshoi, then a thread about the Bolshoi's recent visit is quite a natural place, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Wall Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) Is there any reason to be concerned "that Ovcharenko and Tikhomirova's engagement/marriage plans had not been officially announced" and even more so to do this in the the Swan Lake, Royal Opera House thread? Assoluta, the ONLY reason I placed this link here - indeed placed it at ALL - was because I know there had historically hereabouts been a question as to whether this information had been 'publicly announced' and therefore apt per BcoF rulings (the latter being key) in terms of mention on the Forum itself. This question of simple protocol may not have arisen on the Swan Lake thread - indeed now that I think on it the issue may well have initially arisen vis a vis a reference to a comment on the Bolshoi/DQ thread - but I fear given work pressure that I am under - which I promise you, Assoluta, is concretely considerable and ever growing - I did not have the luxury of time to go fishing (for which I most heartily apologise). I agree with Janet that this item, in and of itself, - and given that it was presented merely in terms of in-house clarification - was not worth a separate thread unto itself. Edited August 23, 2016 by Bruce Wall 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Well a bit weird the whole thing and hope that isn't going to be THE dress eventually ....bad luck for the groom to see before the day and all that.....but what a gorgeous looking couple! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 I know that I'm taking this thread even further away from Swan Lake but i was so pleased to see from his interview in Links that Makhar Vaziev is publicly recognising that Tikhomirova's is a talent to be nurtured and rewarded. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Q Fan Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 When I was at the stage door after a Don Q performance a lady asked Anna Tikhomirova if she was "with" Artem Ovcharenko and the above info was confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 In an interview listed in the Links last Sunday, the new Bolshoi Ballet director Makhar Vaziev, reflecting on the Bolshoi residency at the Royal Opera that has just ended, commented: “We spoke with the Hochhausers [Lilian and Victor Hochhauser, the permanent producers of the Bolshoi’s London tours], and they want to ask us back again. It’s more likely to be 2019, because we already have tours planned in the meantime”. This has left me speculating wildly about possible residencies in the summers of 2017 and 2018. I assume and hope the Mariinsky will fill one of the two slots though I haven’t heard any announcement as yet. But what of the other slot? Can we hope to see a different Company I wonder? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 This has left me speculating wildly about possible residencies in the summers of 2017 and 2018. I assume and hope the Mariinsky will fill one of the two slots though I haven’t heard any announcement as yet. But what of the other slot? Can we hope to see a different Company I wonder? I'd love it to be the Mikhailovsky. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Q Fan Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 It's been said on another thread Mariinsky for 2017. Yes I'd LOVE to see the Mikhailovsky again too. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balletomanewithoutacause Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 (edited) When I was at the stage door after a Don Q performance a lady asked Anna Tikhomirova if she was "with" Artem Ovcharenko and the above info was confirmed. Moved to new thread, Anna and Artem Bolshoi wedding. Edited August 28, 2016 by Lexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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