alison Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 I'm very late catching up with this month's Links, but it's worth saying that there are A LOT of performance photos of Semionova/Lawrence in one of the mid-month links - I think it was Gramilano? Gorgeous. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balletfanp Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Who knew there were so many Forum connections down here? 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
li tai po Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Yes, Balletfanp, that was probably me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balletfanp Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Wish I’d known, I would have said hello! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serenade Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 I went to see the matinee today in Edinburgh. I had a really bad experience with people behind me which I will moan about in the audience behaviour thread at some point so the show was really spoilt unfortunately, but as I’m not sure if anyone else on here will have seen the Edinburgh show I’ll just post some thoughts. BRB’s version of Swan Lake was my first ever Swan Lake about 13 years ago and I’ve never managed to see it since. It is still my favourite version though- I think the narrative is the strongest out of all the versions I’ve seen and visually it’s the most stunning. Yaoqian Shang was a lovely Odette- bringing all the sadness and longing to the part. I really liked her in the role. I think her Odette was stronger than Odile on this performance. She was still great but I didn’t really get the wicked vibes from her Odile but of course there’s plenty of ways to play the role. And also as mentioned I was really quite distracted throughout! César Morales was Siegfried- he was great I enjoyed his performance. He was very convincing as the prince with the weight of the world on his shoulders. The weight is lifted temporarily when he falls for Odette but that joy Is soon over. Gus Payne was Benno- he was excellent. Lots to love about the production. As mentioned before, I think the narrative is the strongest. I love the beginning with the funeral procession, it’s simple but really sets the tone. Costumes are beautiful. I love what they do with the princesses in act 3- I can’t exactly remember when the princesses dance in other versions but I think the way BRB does it fits with the story better. Act 4 was really strong and the stakes seem higher in this version, as opposed to the Royal’s version where j feel like Siegfried is just resigned to losing her. With this one I feel like he puts up a solid fight! I love the sad ending and how it ends with poor Benno 😢 I will not have to leave it so long before seeing this production again as it’s just excellent. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaM Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 @serenade I agree BRB version has strongest narrative throughout. In many versions the potential brides in Act 3 dance as one group with the same or near indistinguishable dresses or tutus. At least the RB version by Liam Scarlett does distinguish the princesses but they have very little dancing to do .. a few phrases solo and the rest is as a group. I enjoyed the substantial individual solos in Sir Peter Wright’s version for BRB. The weakest part of BRB’s version was Von Rothbart … both the older dancer that I saw (I kept worrying he’d trip whilst running or on the stairs) plus the rather pathetic costume and makeup. Would be simple to fix. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serenade Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 25 minutes ago, FionaE said: The weakest part of BRB’s version was Von Rothbart … both the older dancer that I saw (I kept worrying he’d trip whilst running or on the stairs) plus the rather pathetic costume and makeup. Would be simple to fix. Yes I forgot to mention I was not a fan of the white make up for Von Rothbart in act 4! I quite liked the costume though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theorist Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 I was at yesterday's matinee too. I agree with many, but not all, of the comments. I agree that the choreography in Act IV is excellent, certainly better than Scarlett's for RB. And I like that the princesses get solos in Act III (although I don't think their interactions with the Prince are well handled). I'm much less sure about Act I, which seems to me to be confused. I think that Rothbart's costume looks like something a harassed parent might cobble together for their child's dress-up-at-school day. However, I think the white make-up is rather effective: indeed I would have preferred it if he hadn't had a helmet at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Dance Europe video with Cesar Morales talking about Swan Lake: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balletfanp Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 A nice reel posted by BRB about Vadim guesting in Plymouth. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqtDz07u1Dm/?igshid=ZjE2NGZiNDQ= 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaM Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 17 hours ago, Balletfanp said: A nice reel posted by BRB about Vadim guesting in Plymouth. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqtDz07u1Dm/?igshid=ZjE2NGZiNDQ= hoping for more opportunities like this … both for Vadim and for us the audience. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, FionaE said: hoping for more opportunities like this … both for Vadim and for us the audience. And maybe the Royal Ballet would like to have some BRB guests. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaM Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 25 minutes ago, Jan McNulty said: And maybe the Royal Ballet would like to have some BRB guests. I was thinking more from the point of view that Vadim doesn’t seem to be getting guesting opportunities in Europe as he did before. So sad. and also from my own selfish point of view of being priced out of ROH. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, FionaE said: I was thinking more from the point of view that Vadim doesn’t seem to be getting guesting opportunities in Europe as he did before. So sad. and also from my own selfish point of view of being priced out of ROH. I guess that the stellar arrivals from Russian companies have filled some holes where once there was a need for guest artists. However, Vadim is, I believe (if my interpretation of various IG posts from others is correct), dancing with Bolle in Trieste, in the Balanchine Galas in Brno, and in Hong Kong (La Bayadere) during the coming months. Birmingham Royal Ballet certainly seems to appreciate having him, otherwise the Company would not have made and posted that reel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheilaC Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Jan McNulty said: And maybe the Royal Ballet would like to have some BRB guests. Yes, I've been thinking this. In particular of Cesar Morales who is not fully appreciated outside of BRB- a wonderful, sensitive artist, elegant, expressive, musical dancer with a beautiful line, a fine if subtle actor and sympathetic partner. His article in the latest Dance Europe and the video of it that Jan posted gives a fascinating account of his lifelong love of Swan Lake and his wish to dance Onegin. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oncnp Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) Thank you @Balletfanp for posting this. Perhaps they could set up an exchange program. always good to see how someone else does it. Edited April 7, 2023 by oncnp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 1 hour ago, SheilaC said: Yes, I've been thinking this. In particular of Cesar Morales who is not fully appreciated outside of BRB- a wonderful, sensitive artist, elegant, expressive, musical dancer with a beautiful line, a fine if subtle actor and sympathetic partner. His article in the latest Dance Europe and the video of it that Jan posted gives a fascinating account of his lifelong love of Swan Lake and his wish to dance Onegin. I remember Cesar Morales from his days at ENB and he is indeed a special dancer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 He has been seen in the capital quite a bit since then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 10 hours ago, Jan McNulty said: And maybe the Royal Ballet would like to have some BRB guests. Maybe the Royal Ballet might borrow (and never bring back) some dancers, like they’ve done with Muntagirov (English National Ballet) Campbell (BRB) Opisova (Some company honestly I forgot) and many more… But it’s pretty smart on The Royal Ballets part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 47 minutes ago, Benjamin said: Maybe the Royal Ballet might borrow (and never bring back) some dancers, like they’ve done with Muntagirov (English National Ballet) Campbell (BRB) Opisova (Some company honestly I forgot) and many more… But it’s pretty smart on The Royal Ballets part. These dancers weren’t “borrowed.” They left their respective companies to join the Royal Ballet. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Sim said: These dancers weren’t “borrowed.” They left their respective companies to join the Royal Ballet. Yeah That’s why I said Borrow (and never bring back) I still think it’s unfair for the companies that invited and nurtured them but they can do what ever they want (with a little or a lot of bribery) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Benjamin said: Yeah That’s why I said Borrow (and never bring back) I still think it’s unfair for the companies that invited and nurtured them but they can do what ever they want (with a little or a lot of bribery) I find your use of the word "borrow" offensive. Neither Vadim Muntagirov nor Alexander Campbell guested with the Royal Ballet. They did what they considered best for their careers and moved company in the way that non-dancers may move jobs. Tzu Chao Chou didn't guest with Birmingham Royal Ballet before he moved to the UK from Australia. Maia Makhateli didn't guest with Dutch National Ballet before she moved there from BRB. Robert Parker did, however, guest with the Royal Ballet but chose to stay with BRB. Mathias Dingman guested with English National Ballet but chose to stay with BRB. As I said earlier in this post, dancers do what they consider best for their own careers. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LH Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Benjamin said: Yeah That’s why I said Borrow (and never bring back) I still think it’s unfair for the companies that invited and nurtured them but they can do what ever they want (with a little or a lot of bribery) Both Muntagirov and Campbell trained at the Royal Ballet School so in a sense they returned to where they graduated. Nothing particularly objectionable in that. There is no "bribery" involved - just companies and dancers agreeing what is mutually in their best interests. Edited April 8, 2023 by Richard LH Clarification 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Richard LH said: Both Muntagirov and Campbell trained at the Royal Ballet School so in a sense they just returned home. Many dancers train at the RBS but don't "go home" and have careers elsewhere! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LH Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jan McNulty said: Many dancers train at the RBS but don't "go home" and have careers elsewhere! Fair point Janet - I have edited my post for clarification. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Ok this is a battle not worth fighting so your all entitled to your own opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oncnp Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Benjamin said: Yeah That’s why I said Borrow (and never bring back) I still think it’s unfair for the companies that invited and nurtured them but they can do what ever they want (with a little or a lot of bribery) Just to clarify...Muntagirov may have attended the RBS upper school but was not offered a contract with either the RB or BRB when he graduated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Benjamin said: Yeah That’s why I said Borrow (and never bring back) I still think it’s unfair for the companies that invited and nurtured them but they can do what ever they want (with a little or a lot of bribery) So is every dancer in the world supposed to stay with the same company for their entire careers? And you are making very broad assumptions and sweeping statements about why dancers change companies. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Furthermore, isn't it the widely observed custom that dancers approach the potential new company - as they are fully entitled to do! - rather than the other way around? In this respect, ballet companies go further than any workplace I can think of to avoid accusations of poaching well-trained and highly regarded people. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LH Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 On a not wholly unrelated point (indeed a good example re. the above), RB Aud Jebsen dancer Ava May Llewellyn has just announced that she is now an Artist with the Birmingham Royal Ballet. Best wishes to her in her future career! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) Just as an aside, Ava May Llewelyn, who graduated from the RBS into the Aud Jebsen scheme at the RB in 2021, has just announced that she has an Artist contract with BRB. I believe that she has been touring with BRB in Swan Lake. (Apologies - I didn’t realise that Richard LH had already posted this.) Edited April 8, 2023 by capybara 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LH Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, oncnp said: Just to clarify...Muntagirov may have attended the RBS upper school but was not offered a contract with either the RB or BRB when he graduated. Wow I didn't know that...it just shows how things can change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LH Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, capybara said: Just as an aside, Ava May Llewelyn, who graduated from the RBS into the Aud Jebsen scheme at the RB in 2021, has just announced that she has an Artist contract with BRB. I believe that she has been touring with BRB in Swan Lake. Snap!😂 Edited April 8, 2023 by Richard LH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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