sarah761 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Hi My first post on here so sorry if I mess up. My daughter has been lucky enough to secure more than one funding recall. When we have got our letters we have been asked to return self declaration of income forms prior to audition. Obviously she wants to attend all as she is unsure who will offer her funding if any. Can someone tell me is it ok to fill in more than one of these forms?? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat09 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Hi Sarah761 - congratulations to your DD Yes it's fine to fill out more than 1 form. Good luck with finals! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon2 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Yes this is just the first step in the DaDA funding. After places have been allocated with funding they work out if anyone is holding more than one place. Good luck to your dd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah761 Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Ah thankyou both so much. That was quick! Will use this site again as this process is so confusing and stressful. .. be good to share with others that know xx 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieW Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Welcome to the forum Sarah - do keep posting and good luck to your daughter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggy13 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Hope this isn't a silly question or one that's been answered elsewhere ....how are DADA's awarded, is it given to the most talented student or the ones that are in most need of it financially Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat09 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Hi meggy13 - in answer to your question. DADAs are awarded to the most talented but are means tested. you can see more here https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/dance-and-drama-awards-income-scales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggy13 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Forgive me again but if your dd isn't one of the most talented in the dada audition so dosnt get funding does that automatically mean you have to refuse the place or are there any other avenues open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat09 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Forgive me again but if your dd isn't one of the most talented in the dada audition so dosnt get funding does that automatically mean you have to refuse the place or are there any other avenues open Hi Meggy I can't give you a definitive answer. Most schools will hold a waiting list so funding might come up. Some school's have bursary schemes. Whichever way you look at it there is a fair amount of personal money to be found. There is a thread on DADA funding if you do a search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggy13 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Thanks kat09 ....sorry to ask so many questions x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katymac Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 It's really hard to accept that there are other "children better than your own child" so they might not get any DaDA funding. It's harder to accept, whether or not your child gets a DaDA depends on how well off the parents of the "children better than your own child" are Very frustrating 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pas de Quatre Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 A couple of years ago one of my pupils was offered a DaDA, but she was still waiting to hear from other institutions whether she a place on a degree course. She was able to keep the DaDA offer until she had heard from the others. (In the end she did a degree course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah761 Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Ahh cos that's my next worry as she has tring recall early march and been told if offered need to respond within two weeks with hefty registration fee .....but some other recalls not til end of April .... So confusing xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2dancersmum Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Not everywhere demands a registration fee. Having read on another forum which schools your DD has offers from, personally I would say delay as long as you can if you get offered funding from Tring. I think it highly likely that you will have heard from a couple of the others before you need to respond to Tring. Then it really depends on which schools are your DDs favourites. If Tring is preferred to others you have DADA offers from, then you would need to keep hold of Tring in case your DD did not get anything from the recalls much later on. If, however, you have an offer from somewhere your DD would prefer to Tring, then you can perhaps decline Tring at that stage without paying the registration fee. It really is a confusing time but it does come down to personal preferences as well as where you get funding offers from. Some people keep everywhere in consideration until the end of the process, others will have an order of preference and will just keep the DADA that comes highest on their list of preferences and decline ones lower on their list at an earlier stage. Meggy13 - you don't necessarily have to turn a place down if you do not get funding - especially if no registration fee is demanded. Some people get DADA offers straight away and others offered places are not offered funding but remain on a waiting list. Obviously some people get more than one DADA offer and ultimately they can only keep one, so they will decline additional offers. Schools will then offer the DADA to the next person on the list. All this takes places between March and up til perhaps mid July before everything settles down and all DADAs have been offered and finalised. There can be a lot of movement on waiting lists during this time so it can worth hanging on in there to see. My DD did not get her offer until just before May half term, although the initial 'sorry no DADA' letter had come out to us in March. Also, some schools might offer bursaries to those they cannot offer DADAs to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah761 Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Thanks for that. Does anyone know if bird has recalls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katymac Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 From the information I complied last year it's just one audition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah761 Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Thanks for all your help x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2dancersmum Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I believe Bird is just one audition but I have heard of people being offered a place with funding straight away and others being offered a place but having to wait for news on funding until later in the audition rounds or at the end of all auditions having taken place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs G Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Our DS auditioned at bird in December and was offered a place with funding on the day . He received a letter from them confirming it a few days later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah761 Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Ah ok thanks. Next question ...my hubby is self employed and as tax year hasn't finished yet I have had to estimate it on self decparation forms. If we fall into a different bracket can we change it on application?, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAIRBELLES Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Hi Sarah 761 Both my husband and I are self-employed and we were given extra time to complete our accounts for the previous tax year . Given that I only just get my books to the accountant by Christmas , meant that I had to tackle them extra early that year . Of course the Hubby always has them completed and signed off by May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah761 Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 Thanks. Ok so if and when people got their dada offer after recalls do the schools estimate at that point how much your contribution may be? If not when do you find that out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggy13 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 About how many are there in the funding audition at Tring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi4ballet Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Thanks. Ok so if and when people got their dada offer after recalls do the schools estimate at that point how much your contribution may be? If not when do you find that out? I think how it works is that if your dc is offered the DaDa by the school you then get the full DaDa application form to fill in and send off to the DaDa people and they work out how much your allowance is and the contribution you need to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAIRBELLES Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Initially we filled in a small form indicating what bracket our income fell into. We received the full application forms once we accepted the awards. I don't know if you are aware Sarah 761 , there is a table on the gov.uk site that gives you a rough guide of what your contribution will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon2 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I thought I posted this last year but can't find it and again can't copy it? This was for entry 2014 and is titled 'DaDA Application/Assessment Flowchart New Students in 2014 to 2015 academic year'. From knowing dd was offered a place with funding (if within income boundary) to it finally being sorted seemed to take a lifetime but in reality we knew around Easter but not our final contribution until the summer holidays. From what I remember last year ENBS requested the information needed for stage 5 on the initial application form. 1. New student applies to the institution/s and is auditioned 2. Institution ranks the students in order of talent. 3. Institution offers a place (NOT funding) to the student 4. Student provisionally accepts the place and confirms they want to apply for funding (by completing the Self Declaration of income) 5. Student completes Self declaration of income form. 6. The institution records the students on the Budget Management spreadsheet in order of talent. 7. Using the information in the self declaration the institution offers provisional funding to students in order of talent, until the budget is spent (no provisional DaDA funding to be offered before 1st March) 8. Institution sends 'clearing' data to CDET and Drama UK 9. CDET/Drama UK undertake clearing process on a monthly basis between April - August and advise institutions where students are holding places. 10. Students choose their preferred institution and formally accept a place. 11. Following confirmation from the student that they have accepted a place, the institution gives a DaDA application form to the new student. 12. Student completes and submits the DaDA application form together with appropriate income evidence. 13. Institution assesses the DaDA application and evidence and determines the level of household income and the level of financial support. 14. Institution offers final funding to students in order of talent, in accordance with the level of support as determined by their income assessment. 15. Institution updates the Budget Management Spreadsheet. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moneypenny Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 The contribution rates on the gov.uk tables are for tuition fees only and do not include boarding/accommodation costs, these are extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenda Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Hi everyboda! This is my first post, taking advantage of the oportunity, I`d like to ask what sort of evidence/documents you have to send in order to meet the requirements (nationality, incomes, etc) specially for EU candidates as they have to prove nationality and residence. I hope someone can tell me about that. PD. Sorry for my english but my mother tongue is spanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Hi Brenda! I can't answer your queries but I just wanted to welcome you to the Forum. Your English is a lot better than my nonexistant Spanish! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi4ballet Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Interesting news for you all - I had an email from CDET today, and I quote: "In recognition of the fact that registration fees could act as a barrier to students from low income families, from the 2014 to 2015 academic year students who apply for DaDa support must not be charged a registration fee. Neither can institutions charge potential DaDa students to hold a place." Well, hooray for that 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah761 Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 Thats what I thought but at least one school has charged me a fee, saying in fact that the details of the funding audition would not be released without it and that is she is unsuccessful (even though they know she cannot take a place without funding) the deposit is non refundable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulip Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Gosh that is terrible Sarah, clearly the school had no right to put anyone under that pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi4ballet Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Sarah761 - have sent you a PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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