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  1. To be honest, an awful lot does depend on what sort of training your DD can access locally between the ages of 16 and 18. My eldest DD went at 16 as she was lucky enough to get funding at the college she liked but she would have struggled to get dance classes at a high enough level locally. Our closest dance school to offer adv 1 and 2 was over an hour away - but most at that school tended to apply at 18. Both my DDs have friends who applied at 16 and got either a no or a non funded place on diploma courses and the results applying at 18 varied from no offers to 'unfunded diploma with no to degree' to multiple degree offers. The extra 2 years for those friends in some ways were a benefit - at 16 they applied for dance courses, at 18 some had a more consolidated interest in MT or contemporary so I think those 2 years helped define where their interests and talents mostly lay - general dance, mt or contemporary. So ultimately , providing she can access enough quality training, then she has not lessened her chances by deciding to wait but of course there are no guarantees in auditions.
  2. I'm pretty sure that there is a forum member on here who had 2 DDs go to LSC on degree courses under the age of 18. They lived in France and had completed their A level equivalents. One had been accepted into Chichester too
  3. my DD uses a nitcomb with damp hair or hairspray on a very small brush (looks like a teasing brush). She uses hairspray - Schwarzkopf got2b - freeze hold one. Normally for performances for her but on her last cruise ship contract she was straight from the stage to on duty interacting with passengers so it brushed out enough and quickly enough for her to let her hair down.
  4. So sorry to read this sad news this evening. Deepest sympathy to John's family, friends and colleagues.
  5. In my DD's 1st year they were effectively split after Easter into dance or mt and had the majority of their classes separately and only did one of the end of year shows - the full musical or the dance show depending on which course had been chosen - so that seems to be a change back to what it was originally. Tap streamed for all years (A-D) and ballet and jazz streamed into A + B for the first year, I believe contemporary followed the ballet streaming. There is certainly a lot more ballet and more contemporary on the dance course than the mt course as the classes in these genres increase from the first year for dance students even though the number decreases for mt students.
  6. My DD went to Hammond upper school and graduated in 2015, happy to answer any questions you may have although I appreciate there might have been some changes since then as the MT degree was not available then. She did the Trinity level 6 diploma in Professional Dance alongside 2 A levels. The first year was all diploma students together and this then split into dance and musical theatre stands for years 2 and 3. I believe they have an Open Day at the end of September and in January (26th) they have free Boys Masterclass Day for 11-18 year olds - you need to email to pre-register and they send out details closer to the time.
  7. My DD auditioned successfully for vocational college for 16+ place. I would suggest the focus should be more on vocational grades than grades 6-8 as the vocational grades include pointework and intermediate is the standard entry point for teaching I believe. DD's school offered the standard grades alongside as the teacher felt they are very performance based. DD had: 2 x RAD vocational classes + 1 shorter pointe work class following one of the other classes 2 x grade classes 1 x open class 1 x jazz Inter foundation classes ran alongside grade 5 and then grade 6. Intermediate classes ran alongside grade 6 and grade 7. Adv 1 classes ran alongside grade 8 . Order of exams taken : grade 5, inter-foundation , grade 6, intermediate, grade 7, grade 8, adv 1. Int-F and 6 were close together, as were inter +7 and 8+adv 1. My DDs hours did not really increase much beyond that even up to vocational school entry - - she added in an extra intermediate class just prior to the exam and that continued for about a year after the exam just for more dance time - (we were not charged - she demonstrated for fellow students). She also did a monthly associates class and a monthly workshop. I am aware that for year 10/11 she did less hours than many of her peers but for our location and circumstances that was all that was possible and I would always say that the quality of the teaching is of utmost importance.
  8. With English Youth Ballet, it really is a case of wait until they advertise for your region and then if you email you will be sent details of rehearsals and performances - possibly with some TBC. Wolverhampton, Oxford and I think Swindon are places they have performed in the past - they don't do every year in every location - more like a rotation of 2-3 years. Rehearsal times will vary greatly. I know my DD never managed it as although geographically we were theoretically ok, in practice too many 'after school' rehearsals' starting at 4:30pm would have meant too many Friday afternoons off school for us. Depends on time of year too -1st 2 weeks in September when starting a new school not ideal and nor around GCSE time. If you are after something that can usually be combined with Elmhurst, keep a look out for Midland Theatre Ballet. They run a weekly class/rehearsal leading up to theatre performance. Its over 8-9 months of the year and I suspect you are too late for this year but you could investigate for next time
  9. It really is time that Edexcel improved their security/systems for this. You are correct in that it is the third consecutive year that this happened with their Maths A level papers. My daughter was upset last year when she sat the maths exam and discovered afterwards that the paper she found the hardest had been leaked the evening before. I believe that grade boundaries were adjusted in both years but that overall the numbers involved (that got knowledge of the paper) were not deemed large enough to affect overall results - so a minimal adjustment I know my daughter felt it unfair but ultimately she did get the hoped for result. Sympathy to your pupil but ultimately I doubt it will make any difference to her result - it just adds to the stress
  10. I would agree - GCSE year for those auditioning for vocational school at 16, A level year for those 'changing' at 18+ - be it for dance training, university or a job, final year of vocational training facing the end of training and uncertainty of what comes next. Not sure how you can help - other than continue to offer encouragement , reassurance and support to your DC. Though on a practical note, for a DC not at vocational lower school, it is perhaps a good idea to contact their secondary school at the start of year 11 and explain your DC's ambitions to them . My DD was assigned a deputy head of year as a sole point of contact - it was he who talked to her subject teachers, authorised absences etc.
  11. It really does depend on the university, course applied for and A level subjects studied. Only one of DDs offers was on points (and that one specified but not from dance qualifications). I spoke with DD and she reminded me the 'x' in the 'x' points could come from other qualifications was actually only 12 points maximum.
  12. I've had this happen too actually - when I've actually been typing , the screen has jumped back up to earlier in the thread and I've had to scroll back down to continue typing. Not sure why, hasn't happened typing this time but the last couple of times I've posted it has
  13. Some universities do accept points from dance and drama exams but certainly not very many points. There is a space to fill them in in the ucas application. My DD had a couple of offers that specifically stated her dance exams would not count towards her points totals and a couple where a maximum of 'x points' could come from them. She did A levels and applied for a science degree - An overall points value was offered along with min A level grades relevant subjects to the degree - eg biology was given a minimum grade she had to achieve to do the degree course but the 'x points' clause would have allowed her to drop a grade in a subject less relevant to her degree course and by including dance exams still meet the overall points value. I cannot remember the points value but it was not a lot and certainly did not reflect the number of level 3 dance qualifications she had. I would have thought that my DDs experience would be more usual - applying for a degree that had nothing to do with performing arts. Those I know who have done dance or drama at university have not had UCAS points accepted for dance/drama - probably because they expect most applicants to have taken exams in these subjects and even more so because there is normally an audition involved in the application procedure so they can judge an applicants relevant ability/talent for themselves. For the record my DD is in her 1st year at university so this is based on last years experiences. Some of her dancing friends going onto degrees in fields totally unrelated to dance also had the clause about ' a max of x points can come from other level 3 qualifications' with their offers stating a level grades and overall points required.
  14. The book Anna mentions was on the reading list for my DD for a project on healthy eating as part of her diploma so it is a good place to start. To be honest though, as long as her overall diet is healthy I don't think a bit of chocolate or some sweets are too much to worry about. You do need to maintain a healthy relationship to food for the long term. Its important to remember too that at 13 bodies are still changing and growing and a teenager doing quite a lot of exercise each week will burn off any excesses. I'm sorry but you can expect a 13 year old to change considerably until they settle into their adult body at 18/19/20 and I think you have to be very careful with images projected of what a dancer should look like/weigh etc. Teenagers have a tough time and dancers are constantly seeing themselves and others in leotards and mirrors and know better than anyone how they fit with the other dancers in class. A healthy and balanced diet overall is what parents need to aim for for their children and themselves. My DDs are older - one has been dancing professionally for almost 4 years now. Sadly I have seen the effects on some of their peers during their teenage years where either the girls or their mothers focused too much on body image.
  15. As pictures said, both qualifications are level 6 on the qualifications framework. The main difference between them in terms of course content is percentage of academic versus percentage of practical. Diploma is approx. 25% academic and the degrees are approx 40% depending on the actual course (can be more). However, you do probably also need bear in mind that terms are often longer for the diploma colleges than some that offer the degree. DD had an extra 8 weeks of term doing a diploma than her friend at Trinity Laban so obviously a lot more hours of practical overall. Trinity offer a top up course to the diploma to convert it to a degree - it is primarily distance learning and designed so that it can be completed when the graduate is already working rather than as a full time student. Some establishments accept the diploma as entry qualification for MA courses but obviously still in the performing arts - if moving away from performing arts into other fields the diploma is less likely to be accepted. Employers after graduating are not likely to be bothered about which qualification a person has - it still comes down to the audition and probably past experience.
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