Picturesinthefirelight Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Dd's teacher has recommended that she & another girl in her class try a new laced up pointe shoe. These shoes look a bit odd to me & she wouldn't be able to use them for performances. http://www.sansha.com/ShowModel.php?id=9 Has anyone come across them before? Not sure whether to ask the shop to order them in for us or just play ignorant & get Ds another pair of the Merlet's she loves (teacher doesn't like Merlet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancemad Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Just my opinion, but getting straight to the pointe (Ha Ha) I think they are ridiculous! I am a teacher. The traditional ribbons on pointe shoes lend strength to the ankle. What benefit does you DDs teacher give to these shoes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picturesinthefirelight Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 Dd has super bendy feet & she thinks the laces will give more support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancemad Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I'd be inclined to put the emphasis on the shank design of the shoe rather than something that will 'support' from the front. It also doesn't make sense to me why a student would use one type of shoe for training but then have to change for a performance. If your daughter has found a shoe she is happy with that is such a bonus. It's important a student feels secure when it comes to pointe work. Her technical work could suffer if she feels uneasy about her shoes. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird22 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Purely from an aesthetics view point, that has to be the most hideous shoe I've ever seen! Is there any research behind them, have any professional dancers tried them and said they offer more support ? Because as dancemad has said ribbons give support to the ankle and I just can't see how that would help any foot never mind a super bendy foot! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picturesinthefirelight Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 The aesthetics mean she couldn't use them for performance unless she & the other girl were given character roles. She would obviously have them in pink satin not that bright blue!!!! Dd's teacher would like her to try Russian Pointe but dd's foot is half a size too small. She is currently alternating between Merlet Diva & Gaynors (though the Merlet broke last week). Her RAD teacher doesn't like Gaynors for exams & her class teacher doesn't like the Merlet as they have a 3/4 shank. Dd feels the Gaynors are OK but not ideal though she might consider some customisation, the ladies at Dancique recommended she try them because they should last a bit longer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legseleven Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 DD also has very bendy feet and I absolutely agree with dancemad that feeling uncomfortable with pointe shoes can have a catastrophic effect on security and confidence en pointe. Her Freeds and one pair of Bloch were simply not supportive enough and she became very tentative when dancing in them because she felt that at any moment she could 'go over'. If your DD is happy with the Merlet and to some extent with the Gaynor Mindens, surely that is the most important thing? I know different teachers have different preferences but equally different dancers have different feet and I would have thought that shoes that suit a dancer with very bendy feet are the 'holy grail' for that student, whatever make and model they happen to be. No RAD examiner will care what brand of pointe shoes is worn and certainly many girls at DD's school wear Gaynors for exams and do extremely well. I can't envisage how lace-up pointe shoes will support very bendy feet, as any additional support is surely provided at the front of the feet? And boy, are they ugly! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchkin16 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I don't think the laces are to support to ankle like ribbons would, they just go up the front creating (I assume) a higher and stronger vamp to ensure a flexible foot does not go over too far. From the description it looks like they have elastic to keep them on the foot. Dare I say it they look like a pointe shoe aimed to appeal to men or a more modern dancer. If your teacher is looking for more support from the front of the sho, which is the only reason I can assume one would choose these for that reason, try a longer vamp or vamp elastic. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legseleven Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Vamp elastic is a must for my DD, even in Grishko Vaganovas. However, it didn't make her Freeds (Classic Pro) or the one pair of Bloch (can't remember the model) wearable for her, which is why I assumed that the shank is the important part of the shoe for support for bendy feet. I may be mistaken in that as I am just a ballet mum - and it may be that the lace-up pointe shoes would suit Picturesinthefirelight's DD's feet perfectly shank-wise etc. I would think that pointe shoes without ribbons would feel very different to the dancer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picturesinthefirelight Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 I wonder if they are meant to have ribbons as well? I assumed from looking at them at first glance that they were more of a shoe that would be chosen to suit a particular costume. Dd also uses elastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dance*is*life Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I agree - hideous and without ankle support from the ribbons I would think rather insecure. What will they think of next? I have heard there is even a split sole pointe shoe - excuse me??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I agree - hideous and without ankle support from the ribbons I would think rather insecure. What will they think of next? I have heard there is even a split sole pointe shoe - excuse me??????? Are you thinking of the Bloch one, D.I.L.? That's been around for a while, but it's only the outer sole that's split - the shank is all one piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picturesinthefirelight Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 Dd is insistent her teacher wants her to try them & teacher has also spoken to dh about ordering them so I guess we will just have to give it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Gosh, let us know what they're like, Pictures! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primrose Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Why doesnt the teacher speak to you first as it is you who is paying for them. This shoe seems gimmicky to me and not at all supportive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picturesinthefirelight Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 I never see the teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird22 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 You'll have to let us know how she gets on with them! Maybe they will be the perfect shoe ? Albeit one that's a bit odd to look at! Best of luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picturesinthefirelight Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 I'm going to email Dancique where she usually gets fitted & see what they say. She breaks up for Xmas in a week and a half so it won't be before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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