Katymac Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Is anyone or their children using protein shakes? DD was advised to by the physio (20g x3; am, pm & after her hardest class) But we are a bit stumped as to what to buy - she doesn't like the taste of the one we tried & they cost a lot to be 'not nice' As she struggles to maintain her weight my brother has suggested we get one with plenty of fat in it - but so many seem to be about weight control/loss - which would be completely unsuitable. He also thinks dance might be more like long distance running or even rugby so if we go to a proper sports/bodybuilding shop that's what we should say, is he right? (she does a lot of commercial and Jazz on her course alongside tap, contemporary & ballet) Does anyone have any suggestions for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchkin16 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Hemp protein powder is the best and most complete one that is entirely natural. It was recommended to me by my nutritionist. It doesn't taste too great but you get used to it and it's fine mixed in a smoothie. I do a mix of a handful of kale or spinach (or both), a banana, frozen summer fruits, a few teaspoons of flaxseeds and then the suggested serving of protein powder. Blend with a little water or juice. Looks interesting but tastes nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katymac Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 Thanks Munchkin, is that a particular brand? Where do you buy it from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colman Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I tend to throw a banana and milk when I'm using one as a late night snack after a clas that gets me home at 11pm for a 6:30am start. I'm perfectly happy to use the chain health food shop pure whey protein ones. Theoretically about 450 cals with lots of protein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifeafterballet Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Dd has a Nutribullet when at home. There are lots of different recipes. There are also lots of supplements available via GP on prescription. You should really be guided by a nutritionalist. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifeafterballet Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Naked / Trek bars are high protein too ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdance Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I don't like the taste of the maxi-muscle ones which are on sale in bigger supermarkets and Holland & Barrett etc. There is a good sports nutrition supplier called Science in Sport (SiS) and I really like their vanilla one, which I add to smoothies made with almond milk and fruit. They're not cheap but have a look and they often do sales for subscribers: www.scienceinsport.com 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katymac Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 We ended up at Boots & Holland and Barrett She doesn't like the chocolate flavour I'll try that vanilla one Drdance I am concerned that with her retainer (brace came off just before Christmas) she will eat less....& she gets so tired after class- she got a blendactive for Christmas so smoothies are in her future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchkin16 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) Pulsin hemp protein. Was recommended by the nutritionist but it might be worth seeing one specifically yourself. I added the flaxseeds as they are a good source of fats and you can also sneak in things like avocado too which would be excellent. If she's getting tired check she's eating enough protein, my go to snack is always something protein based as I used to suffer from lack of energy. The Nakd bars are a good quick boost, so are the Trek bars. Edited December 26, 2015 by munchkin16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katymac Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 This is all really complicated - I don't really understand it - we've been given the name of a shop to go & look at - hopefully someone there can talk us through it The websites seem to expect a level of knowledge eg just protein vs protein plus carbs; & I just don't know enough yet, so I'll keep googling DD has decided vanilla might be better than chocolate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colman Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 And you've checked with a doctor that her iron levels etc are all ok? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchkin16 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 The first step would be to check she's eating properly, I know it's hard to find time to cook but the best natural source of protein is food and fish is a very good thing to try and get into your diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katymac Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 She is taking iron supplements & vitamin D, we won't get a GP appt now before she goes back, wish I'd thought of that when she got back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katymac Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 She is pretty good at eating - generally I guess I'm trying to fix two problems with one solution 1) the physio thinks she needs more protein2) she can't snack easily any more because of the retainer & I'm worried she will lose weight & she wanted a blender thingie to make shakes with spinach & fruit & stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahw Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Katy mac have sent a pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchkin16 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 If you want a blender the Breville blendactive is really good and I used it all the time at uni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katymac Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 That is the one she has munchkin - & frozen spinach has been bought (yuk!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifeafterballet Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Research the Nutribullet. They are fab ! Wouldn't get anything else. It blends everything, even nuts into a smooth drink. But a GP and nutritionalist are essential. Dd had blood tests etc before a plan was recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdance Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Just a word of caution: protein is needed for recovery, to help muscles repair themselves and build up strength. It should not really be relied upon as an energy source. Complex carbohydrates (brown rice, wholegrain pasta, cereals etc) should be the main source of energy, topped up with fruit if you need a quicker burst. Breaking down proteins for energy puts additional strain on the kidneys (due to the waste products) as well as denying the muscles and connective tissues what they need to rebuild. Katymac if you have questions I'd happily answer them - while I don't claim to be a nutritionist or dietician, I have studied sports nutrition. (FYI the profession of 'nutritionist' is not considered a medical one as it doesn't have state registration; In the NHS, nutritionists work alongside dieticians, doctors and nurses because they cannot advise patients, in the same way that a physiotherapist cannot prescribe medication. The NHS states "There is no set entry route to become a nutritionist. Most nutritionists have a qualification in nutrition, usually a degree or a Masters, [while] to practise as a dietitian, you must be registered with the Health and Care Professions Council (HCPC). In order to register with the HCPC, you need to study for an approved degree in dietetics. This is usually a BSc (Hons) degree". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katymac Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) TBH her GP isn't very interested - I'm wondering if there is someone at the physio practise we went to I'll keep you all updated with what I find out Thanks DrDance - I appreciate it Edited December 26, 2015 by Katymac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdance Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 You're welcome! Sports physios are often athletes themselves, or work very closely with athletes, and in the sports world, correct nutrition for performance has been considered essential for at least 20 years so it's 'normal', compared to the dance world where, if you'd asked a professional dancer 10 years ago, what they ate to make sure they performed at their best and to avoid injury they'd probably have looked at you in a very strange way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomin Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I was going to say the same about seeing a registered dietitian not a nutritionist (I have heard some very strange advice and 'diagnoses' from nutritionists although I am sure not all are bad). She definitely wouldn't qualify for supplements on the nhs and it would probably be hard to get her referred unless her bmi is too low? Dietitians always recommend meeting needs with food first before trying supplements as they are expensive and fresh food tastes nicer. There are quite a few guidelines available freely if you google but here are a couple http://www.bapen.org.uk/pdfs/food-first-leaflets/fortified-diet.pdf http://www.wolverhamptonlpc.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/2013/09/Mi67891227.06.13V1.01.pdf She could make up batches of the milkshake/ rice pudding recipes to snack on? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzysue Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I've no actual information, but a tip if anyone is buying Science in Sport stuff. Dh cycles and uses this, much cheaper to buy from a cycle shop online called Ribble Cycles apparently ☺ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katymac Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 Condensed milk & a banana solved the taste issue & we may well not buy again after this lot is finished. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katymac Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 Moomin - I love in the second link how there are High calorie snack to have & low calorie snacks to avoid.....DD would probably have 2 from each list Her BMI is OK at about 18.6 so we wouldn't get a dieticians appt. Milkshake is the way to go I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeliB Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 DS uses impact whey protein powder in vanilla, made up with whole milk. Bought from myprotein, recommended by my younger brother who is a super fit army officer (he does 10 mile runs carrying a 40 kilo backpack)...this is the cheapest way to get protein shakes.... He has also when needing a more conveniently packaged fix mostly used clif builders bars, you can buy them on amazon...he likes the mint choc chip ones... bro also recommended a rice based protein bar that the Olympic cycling team make to take on trips, I think this might be the recipe https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/zuvvi/media/bc_files/izonedocs/IZ_Rice_Cakes.pdf A word of warning though, when I was reading up on protein supplements, I read (and was advised by my bro) that these shouldn't be used under age 16 due to problems with creatine clearance I think.. Not sure how old your daughter is katymac so I just mention it.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchkin16 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 That's why if you are looking for a protein powder that is more natural for under 16 the hemp Pulsin one is the best alternative. Doesn't taste as good but it's better for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomin Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 If you're still considering seeing a dietitian I'd recommend you get her to keep a food diary for a couple of weeks. If she takes it to the consultation it may well mean that she doesn't need a return visit. It may be worth her doing one for her own to see what her intake is. If she gets one of the food diary apps it will calculate all her protein/ nutrients etc for her 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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