Michelle_Richer Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) City Academy is teaching a new full day intensive Ballet workshop - Giselle! This workshop will be taught by Rejane Garcia, and will teach you classic steps from the Act 1 for Giselle's friends dance and Giselle act 1 variation. It’s a beautiful ballet to learn, as well interesting choreography. Both men and women can attend, as there are plenty of roles to fill. All levels are welcome, from beginners to advanced. At the end of the workshop, you can invite family and friends to watch what you have worked on throughout the day. Date: Saturday 21st September Time: 11am – 5pm Location: Jerwood Space, SE1 Cost £80.00 Edited August 16, 2013 by Michelle_Richer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Well this sounds good too but I don't understand why there hasn't been more notice.....this certainly wasn't on their website a couple of days ago!! They have advertised the Swan Lake one which isn't until December before this one which is next month!! If I'm here I may go for this one instead of the Swan Lake one but looks like will be on holiday then.....even though we still haven't sorted this out....not even the destination yet but it is projected the last two weeks of September!! One thing though I believe this is the same date as Franziskas next workshop which I haven't booked because thought I would be on holiday!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lartiste Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Thanks for the info Michelle I will sign up for this one as well as I will be in London during this time period. Giselle is one of, if not my favourite, ballets. I'm unsure of how to get to Jerwood space though as it is in an area of London I am unfamiliar with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Must be near the Festival Hall I think......not in the new Rambert space behind The National Theatre is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 It's off Union Street not far from Southwark tube station......sort of between that one and London Bridge but nearer Southwark. Don't know this Space at all but not far from the River so could walk along this walk and then cut through!! I think if I AM here I will go for this one too!! Giselle is one of my favourites as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dance*is*life Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 What age and level would be suitable for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 If you go on the website it tells you but it's for adults from beginners to more experienced dancers. Ive never done one of their workshops....Michelle is the one to ask....but maybe they give different groups different bits to learn etc. so some have easier bits and some harder. You can usually simplify more difficult bits though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Adults is post 18 I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lartiste Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I attended the Swan Lake workshop over easter and everyone - to my knowledge - was over 18. It may be worth giving City Academy a call to check though http://www.city-academy.com/contact_us as there doesn't appear to be an age limit given on the website. As for level I would say it is adapted based on observation of dancers at the barre so if everyone is taking class at an advanced level then the steps are more advanced and vice versa. I wouldn't worry though the workshops are for enjoyment rather than assessment and I messed up quite a few of the steps - the dance of the 4 cygnets argh, epaulement and legs moving and the changing of direction and just argh fun but so complex! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheila Beelam Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Ooh Giselle is my favourite ballet too! Shame I've just had a month off ballet! This may be the nudge I need to get back into routine...Back to the barre I go!! But bring on Saturday it means I miss class...again At this rate I'll be taking my Adv 1 when I'm retired 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle_Richer Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) Hi JustBallet You have over a month to go for this one, with your expert pointe work I'm sure you will make short work of the first variation, What do you think?. I will be doing the easy option on demi. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=omqyVhJqozk Edited August 19, 2013 by Michelle_Richer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Well Ive booked this today...but with no ballet until then!! I'd better do a lot of swimming when on holiday then!! Ive been told on the phone today by the organisers that its a really nice space to dance in so should be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheila Beelam Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Hmmm tempted now but sept is turning out to be really busy....ill just have a peek at the YouTube clip...it's only 1/2 a day and it is neaaaarrrly my birthday.... ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle_Richer Posted August 28, 2013 Author Share Posted August 28, 2013 It looks like I have picked up another recruit tonight from ENB a guy this time, two girls from Saturdays Rep class were also interested. I’ve started looking at the Giselle's first variation, had a chat tonight with my level three teacher at ENB as I will need to strengthen my ankles for the 24 hopping ballonné’s, or the 6 ballonné’s 6 hops 6 ballonné’s and 6 hops, dependant upon which version City Academy chooses, my teacher thinks she wont be doing demi-pointe, but on a flat foot instead. But I’m going for demi capability weather we use it on the day or not. Should start some basic practicing this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Almost impossible to hop that well on demi.....it's different on pointe....I imagine it will be normal hops for those not wearing pointe shoes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 In fact be very careful trying to do lots of hops on demi.....you could end up injuring either your toes or knees!! When you do this on pointe......admittedly difficult enough....but you are protected by the shoe to some extent hopping on demi isn't a good idea in my books....I certainly won't be doing it anyway!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thecatsmother Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Hops on Demi pointe are doable but I would suggest not trying these without the supervision of a teacher as there are too many things which could get injured or overused. It also puts a great deal of strain on the calf muscle so I would hold off on trying on Demi pointe alone. On pointe has its challenges too due to the strength needed to do this towards end of solo. Much more difficult for a hyper mobile foot. To use the phrase "don't try this at home" if an adult learner is probably the safest advice. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Also position the foot is actually in when on demi might be important for ankles! I suppose up on pointe the ankle is already pretty taught on demi this might shift around more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle_Richer Posted August 28, 2013 Author Share Posted August 28, 2013 I thought you girls knew me better than that; of course I have tried them but only a few at a time. We did do three hoping ballonne’s as part of a sequence at LAB SI, very similar but not quite the same. Never the less I am cautious as I already have some long standing discomfort in my ankles until I get them warmed up, but that I think is just down to the amount of ballet/related fitness classes I was doing every week, that has subsided a little since the summer break. But I am also of the opinion that if it get exercised then it will eventually strengthen and accommodate that activity. I have also seen our easy it is to get injuries while in class or at workshops even for experienced dancers, I have occasionally sustained minor injuries myself so please don’t think I’m foolhardy. As I have the best part of four weeks to condition my feet for these hopping ballonne’s, so for me it will be little by little and in any case my ENB teacher is well aware of what I’m doing, It’s the sort of thing we discuss when talking about my homework after class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle_Richer Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 Hi Lin The Hopping Ballonne’s can come off the list now, I’m happy I will be able to do them in time, I have already completed the set of 6+6+6+6, so that’s on the back burner of strength building now. I see there is something that looks like a half turn en dehors grand pirouette or an renversé, not sure which it is, as its so short. But I have only done one of those once at my Stamford class, I think there they called it a renversé, so that’s another on the list for me. Another tricky one I have not come across before is a pirouette where you switch pivoting legs midway through, you can see these at 1.05 minute and at 1.08 minutes, I really don’t know what these are called, perhaps some of the experts on this forum can help us out here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomin Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I love that solo (the gelsey Kirkland version on YouTube is just amazing), I wouldn't even get past the turns in arabesque though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 These solos are usually adapted or you can adapt yourself. Recently on the Tchaikovsky pas de Deux day I had to adapt the petit retirees in the middle section they were just TOO fast!!! So instead of two back one forward (repeated three times) I just did one back and one devant so had the correct leg In front each time.....sort of looked similar but much easier!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thecatsmother Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I think most solos need to be adapted for adults in order for them to be safe and enjoyable. I certainly would not recommend trying the Giselle turns as there are a number of versions to this solo and am sure this will be simplified. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Certainly hope so!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 By the way Michelle I know the step you mean where you change legs turning and I'm not a 100per cent sure but I think they are called something like enboite relevees en tournant but I need to look up the correct spelling etc!! I haven't done these for years as they haven't come up in any of the classes I do recently. But I do seem to remember doing across the room on diagonal as a pointe work exercise mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle_Richer Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 Hi Lin Thanks for the name of that movement; I couldn’t find it in my Video Dictionary of Classical Ballet. However a search on the net revealed this definition: Emboîté relevé en tournant [ah-bwa-TAY r(u)l VAY ah toor-NAH] (Fr. fit together step; pulled up; turning) A composite step performed en pointes consisting of three actions which make a full turn. The dancer begins in 5th position en demi-plié with the working foot behind, arms in 3rd position; she executes a relevé passé devant 2 to 1 travelling slightly along the line of dance, bringing the back foot to retiré devant and changing the arms to 3rd while making 1/2-turn en dedans; she then steps under the body line and lifts the other leg to retiré devant while making 1/2-turn en dehors to complete the full turn with the arms changing to 3rd position; and she finishes en demi-plié. Often performed en diagonale. That sounds quite doable. I am sure your right about the simplification, our teacher Rejane at City Academy is more likely to spit the class in two, one group doing the simplified version and the other doing the more challenging. It will most definitely be adapted to the capabilities the class. For me, I’m pre-empting things by learning the sequence the best I can from various video examples, furthermore I have email one of my teachers that has provided me with personal tuition in the past, to continue this with repertoire work, basically going through what I have done on these various workshops and keeping them refreshed, but at the same time tidying up my technique. As it an awful shame to loos what we have learnt after a week or two. Unfortunately I’m unlikely to get any advance tuition on this one before the workshop, just my own practice and familiarisation. However it will be added to the list for refreshing. For Swan Lake in December I intend to get advance tuition, especially as I have danced both scenes before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Wrong step!! Emboites are a small turning jumping step where you do change from right to left leg but in a series of half turns! Usually with the working leg in coup de pied position. The step on pointe which is like a piqué turn but as you make the turn bring other leg into retire position I don't know the name of. Have been looking at other videos of all the great and the good on YouTube doing this variation and I think I like Cojaccaru's version best...such a lovely dancey quality and Nunez not far behind!! Some of the Russians do the steps brilliantly and with great precision but don't (to me) get the feeling of the character across that well. Cojaccaru always has lots of "time" in her dancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Whoops simultaneous posting so as you can see now Ive not been that much help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 However your description of the emboite releves en tournant does then sound similar to what I was originally thinking so I don't know but I do think I'm remembering the jumped version...just a small jump and you change legs with each half turn. Not sure where I got this as a pointe work exercise from but maybe there is a sort of relevee version but in the video she is doing a whole turn rather than a half turn to change each leg which is much harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle_Richer Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 Lin Can you drop the Youtube links to the examples you mentioned, they all help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Sorry I don't know how to do Youtube links!!! I can do website links but not from Youtube unfortunately! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle_Richer Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) Its the same thing This is what I mean http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Nw1OAP0BqTU Edited September 1, 2013 by Michelle_Richer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Still can't do from Youtube! When I want to post a website link (remember only have iPad ) I just touch the address...select all...highlight...select copy...then paste to where I want. When I'm watching a YouTube video there is no link showing to highlight so no way of copying and pasting etc. The version of Cojocaru I was watching was from a 2007 version with the Royal Ballet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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