amber21

Does anybody have any idea how long we have to wait for results of the WL finals? Thank you!

My daughter 3 years ago reached WL finals it was the Friday and we knew by the Tuesday.

 

Amber21 x

Anyone know when the first results start to appear from preliminary lower school WL auditions? Do they come out in date order of venue or all out together once the auditions have finished? Sorry- very new to all of this!

Hi Emily12 usually within 2 weeks and they usually come out in venue order. After finals it's usually just days for results.

Good luck x

Hi, I'm sorry this isn't really Elmhurst connected, but how long does RBS results take to arrive? I've done WL audition!

We were told within a few weeks for WL. For associates will be April.

Good luck x

Thank you all for the welcome and answers!

 

The growth one is tricky - one doesn't want to make a point of mentioning a health issue, especially when it has no day to day effects, but I know the parental heights will give them a prediction of 5ft 9", yet the hospital are pretty certain that she will be between 5ft 2" and 5ft 6" and probably on the upper end. I think I will try and find a very simple way of explaining it - sadly/happily she doesn't fit in any of the standard 'conditions' so no nice, easy label either. It's annoying as she is probably going to be a perfectly reasonable height for dance, but on paper she won't.

 

I'm going to send an email to her new ballet teacher and see how things are going, and I will let her know that I'd like her to have a go at the JAs. 

 

Princessballerina - lots of luck to your DD. I've been looking at the photo instructions... yikes!

 

sarahw - I will go and have a look at some of the others in the London area, thank you for the suggestion.

Xanthe I personally wouldn't mention anything medical unless it specifically asks about medical conditions or injuries on the form. If your DD gets into JAs they tend to be looked at by the physio at some point anyway. In terms of asking your teacher I am aware when my DD went for JAs we had to ask the teacher for her signature of which she wasn't happy however I explained my DD wanted to have a go and as stated its an added extra to regular ballet classes and my DD was doing one 45 min ballet class a week at that stage.

Good luck x

Feeling a bit deflated just now. We have just got in from ballet and after asking my dd teacher about rbs associate auditions she said she thought my dd would be a no and go for it next year rather than this year.

She said she has potential and beautiful feet but does not have the 'ideal' body proportions for rbs.

I knew this really but now doubting wether she should go for it at all. My dd knows it is highly unlikely to get in and we have discussed it at length. Am i just wasting her time and building her up for a fall? My husband thinks i should just leave it.

Her teacher told me to have a think about it. She said if i decide to go for it she wants full control of photos, hair in braids, new leo of her choice, new ballet shoes and extra coaching etc. I had the impression none of this mattered it was all about potential.

By the way, she knows what she is talking about she has been to white lodge and is an rbs teacher.

My DD's ballet school teacher told us when we were applying for year 4 when she was 8 said she had no chance and yet she has been a JA and MA since age 8 is now 14 and just auditioned for SA's. Has also reached finals a few times. DD only wanted to go for the experience and to try another class as she was doing one ballet class a week for 45 mins at age 8. They audition all children who apply and the class isn't at all intimidating my DD thoroughly enjoyed the experience.

Good luck x

DD was studying for Grade 4 at that time and had been allowed to join in the Inter Foundation age 9 but didnt do both those exams until age 11. Even when she started on pointe it would only be ten to twenty minutes per week.

 

Just an added note my dd fell off a tree swing and broke a bone in her foot that same year so didn't do any pointe work for several months and only went back on pointe some 17 months ago she has gained strength in her feet again and has recently danced parts on pointe in her own school and EYB. The gap in pointe work certainly hasn't affected her dance and she seems to be where she needs to be in terms of her Mid associate peers.

Personally I wouldn't be in any hurry to put a child on pointe . . . The Royal have their own system of training so while some children maybe doing more pointe with their own teachers the Royal would never encourage children unless they thought them ready and it would only be for short periods of time.

My dd's old ballet teacher wanted to put my dd on pointe age 10 I had a real concern about it as I thought what's the point of going on pointe unless she really needs to! I had a word with my dd's JA teacher who asked me to ask my dd's teacher at the time to wait until she was nearer 11. Thankfully she took notice.

Thanks for all the great advice! Tendu ordered and on the way, next time- capezio!

I have to agree or my dd certainly with regard to Tendu . . . They're uber soft and very durable and along with the appropriate care and such. . . My dd used to wear Capezio but finds the waist bands quite stiff and show through her leotards whereas the Tendus have a really soft waist band and just seem to have lasted longer in terms of wear and tear.

 

Our local shop charges £6.95! Aaw xx

I was really surprised to learn from our local dance shop that each make of dance shoe makers only actually supply one design of demi pointe shoe.

I'm not generalising and certainly not qualified as a teacher however my DD was in the Freed shop last year and some New York City Ballet dancers were in there and they looked tall and slim with very nice posture and poise.

It might be better not knowing, more so if you have a DC at present  going through the process. I mean what happened last year is in the past anyway, it's always better to look ahead not behind. That's only  my humble opinion of course.

I totally agree it's impossible to predict from past figures what will happen in the future there are so many factors that may possibly affect each year. All the students are individual and the positives are that the majority of students end up going somewhere at the end of their training.

Amber21

Thank you for your reply Yorkshire Pudding; I think the 'smack' was not hard and intended to be playful? The student did say though, 'it's illegal!', but in a laughing manner. Another time I think it was the same and a Year 7 girl looked shocked when the teacher hit a Year 9 girl (the class is for all years; we mainly do repertoire in the class). Perhaps the Year 7 girl's reaction shows it has crossed the line? But people are often shocked about many acceptable things as well, not to excuse the teacher's behaviour if it is not acceptable. The teacher is not a teacher of ballet.

 

I think sometimes even when the students are comfortable the line could be crossed; they become so used to it they feel comfortable with it.

 

My main purpose for asking this question is not for advice about the above but to understand when the line is crossed.

I would definitely agree with Dr Dance children and adults will and laugh when nervous anxious and or embarrassed. This behaviour is really unacceptable from an adult nowadays whether teacher or not and this person will be aware of this as is the young people in the class to make a comment about it being illegal. The line is being crossed and this could be deemed as a form of grooming. This adult could be testing the waters and making it seem acceptable however there seems to be a relative amount of uncomfortableness within this arena. If it is a centre this class is attached to there will be somebody who you can voice your concerns to otherwise it would be worth mentioning to the child's parents or the manager of the place where these classes take place.

Smacking is still used in some families however this is a public place where children are going to enjoy a hobbie and it's unfair if children are being subjected to the possibility of being singled out and treated in this way.

Amber21 x

So pleased for my DD who has been accepted into Royal Ballet SA s London for year 11 .

Congratulations to your lovely DD well deserved at last she's worked so hard.

 

Amber21

Can anyone remember when MA offers come out? I know it was March sometime.

We have been informed that it will be April this year when the mid and senior associates results are released.

 

Good luck to everyone waiting! X

We have been informed that it will be April this year when the mid and senior associates results are released.

 

Good luck to everyone waiting! X

Hi the mid associates who have their appraisals will hear after then.

Ax

Hi I think like any art or sport there will always be the more naturally gifted/talented children who are more naturally attuned to that particular genre. There are plenty of children with these qualities and are still driven and motivated however some may not need these extra classes or training to achieve what they need to as what they are doing at that time individually maybe enough to allow them to compete against others who may have more hours and training.

 

Again reading the fabulous information on here it depends on the training that children are receiving whether it's appropriate for them and sometimes not always the amount of hours that's put in.

 

Ax

Hi IBD23. Not sure whether this is the problem however a woman in a shoe shop once told me she had been informed by her GP that constant blistering and pain of skin in the balls of feet even if shoes are well fitting maybe a vitamin D deficiency. That would be lack of ultra violet rays from the sun light accompanied with vitamin intake from food too. A visit to a GP maybe worth a visit if it is on going.

Ax

Amber,are you saying that people from the Royal`s JA`s and Mids classes have told children or parents there that only 1 or 2 are maybe going to make it as professional ballet dancers? From out of the ones studying on those particular programmes?

Hi I'm going by our own experience of my DD's first day at JAs when the teacher was telling the children a lovely story about growing and developing as a dancer and did make them aware that even though this was a fabulous journey they were just about to embark on it was a long one of hard work and commitment! It wasn't delivered in a way of being negative more so being realistic! My DD certainly didn't waver in her own dream it's common sense to know that not everyone becomes that prima ballerina. Some of it is probably down to luck as well as other obvious factors.

I think from a personal perspective it would be cruel to fill children's heads full of promises of what the school can give at the end of any training. . . . it would certainly leave them wide open to further criticism than is already cast.

Ax

I'm reading the posts on here and the "British students luck motivation" about the training in RBS and it makes me sad. I don't really look forward to get the "yes" letter any more :-( not that I was expecting a "yes" but I don't think now I'd like my DD to go there... So sad

  

Was having similar thoughts Happymum to be honest!! Mixed feelings :/

Hi further to reading lots of people's experiences on this ballet forum. . . All are varied and uniquely personal to each child and families experiences. I think it's really important to remember that not one school or particular approach to training is always appropriate for any one child. As we are all aware there are so few places both in schools and companies as to the ratio of children trying to get into these places therefore with such an enormous pool to choose from it's no wonder it's so competitive.

 

We have always been made aware from the Royal ballet through JAs and Mids that only 1 or 2 children may in the end ever make it onto a professional stage. If we draw parallels to other people at the top in the arts, theatre and even sport there are only ever a small number up there in proportion to people trying to make it to the top.

 

I suppose it also depends on what the individual goals and dreams are for the children who are wanting to be professional dancers.

 

Ax

Hi in response to Vonrothbart my DD has had the privilege of being both a JA and now Mid associate with the Royal and has had wonderful opportunities within the associate programme in terms of visits to many workshops and other events that has made us all feel part of the Royal Ballet family. In amongst all of this my DD has had access to top teachers and physio and we certainly wouldn't question their loyalty in terms of having the children's best interests at heart.

My DD is totally aware of the processes that take place in terms of auditions and the International summer school and in response to Balletqueen it's certainly only fair that the associates are mixed into the general arena with all the other children.

Ax

I'm coming from South Wales and dad thinks it'll take 2 hrs 45. He used to work near elmhurst and it used to take him 2 hrs 30 from our front door in morning traffic. Think we will go up on the day but leave at about 8 o clock when my brother and sister leave for school, so that leaves time for delays:)x

I would agree with Sarahw. We travelled from up north the day before her audition after my DD finished school . . . Arrived about 8.30pm.

 

Good luck Ax

Hi no preliminary auditions are only a ballet class of around 1hour 15 mins, it's quite basic according to my DD. It's the finals that take up most of the day consisting of a ballet class, physio, academic test and interview. It's all quite friendly and my DD really enjoyed her day at finals as did all the other children I gather.

Ax

My DD and her 2 friends were invited to WL finals and were offered Mid Associate places. I am not sure whether all children from the finals are offered Mid places or take them up either as they may also take up places in other vocational schools.

Good luck with the rest of your auditions and finals!

Ax

Congratulations to all the yes letters and big hugs for the no's.

Ax