Ballerina_girl

My DD has been accepted on today 😀 well done everyone 

Yes good Luck to all on SWL, we are on it too, hopefully start hearing soon of some people getting offered places of it 

3 minutes ago, MrsR said:

Maybe starting with current JAs first? Good luck x

We are not a current JA and had our email through -SWL 

5 minutes ago, BalletNorth said:

Short waiting list for us too! I think the MA places offered will be very few. We applied for Manchester and were told that there are very few places here due to the group being a mix of years 7, 8 and 9 students. 

We are Manchester also, and SWL, I believe they did not take many to white lodge from the north so could be another factor in there not being many places 

Short wait list for us- good luck everyone 

Short wait list for us- Good Luck everyone 

7 hours ago, Stellar said:

If going into year 7 in September then that’s fine 

Thanks! 

22 minutes ago, Farawaydancer said:

Email and check. They’re usually pretty quick at getting back to you.  

Thank you! 

My daughter turns 11 on the first day of summer school 25/08 and it says 11-13 for the junior summer school. Is she too young to apply? Do you need to already be in the first year of high school to attend the summer school and board? She starts high school in sept. Any information before applying appreciated. Thanks 😀

34 minutes ago, Medora said:

And the same question for the WL finals: how confident can a JA be that they will be invited for the finals if they apply? Is it more or less a given?

My DD surprisingly made it to finals without being a JA but I heard that some JAS didn’t. It seems so hard to guess what they are looking for. Think it’s just a case of keep trying by the sounds of it. 

5 minutes ago, Sally-Anne said:

I wouldn’t read too much into it, it was just a surprise that it had been viewed again at all. Could be someone opened it by accident or anything really!

hopefully it is a positive for you, but as you say best not to read into it, I’ve learnt not to get hopes up, my DD was at the final and the no was disappointing so trying not to get hopes up with this. There’s a lot that got places at WL from the south so I’m expecting more movement down south and not our way really. So keeping hopes low! 

Just checked ours but it’s on google drive don’t think I can check the views on it 

2 hours ago, Sally-Anne said:

Well, we’ve had another view of our preliminary video so perhaps some decisions are being made? Or not??😂

That sounds promising if they have watched it again, I haven’t checked ours for views incase I messed up the settings, although if they are watching it again as late as last week doesn’t sound like results will be this week. 

Surely we must be getting closer to finding out MA results now feels like it’s been forever 🤣

2 minutes ago, jsbjsb25 said:

I know of a year 8 and 9 email going out this week with results. Who knows when the mids emails will hit our inbox ?. The past two years going by my emails for RBS mids we have normally had them around now.one year was the last week of March. so I'm just assuming and refreshing my emails daily as they can't be far off sending them out now. I thought waiting for junior results was a long wait until my DD then started auditions for Mids 😬😩 xx

hope so! Really hope it’s this week! 

5 hours ago, jsbjsb25 said:

Hi Dainty dancers mum

 

The emails for year 9/1011 White lodge finals have just gone out. once these have all gone out then we should here about Mids any time now going on past years.

🤞 x

did these just go out today? I know year 8 heard yesterday. Am I right in thinking we could hear about mid associates by Friday then? 

1 hour ago, Newbie2 said:

We just got an email regarding year 9 entry - unfortunately my dd didnt get a place 🙁 

Keep telling myself there’s lot to look forward to with her dance school show and festivals coming up. She also got direct entry to summer school at White Lodge....hopefully meant to be 

 

good luck to everyone still waiting 

Well done to her for getting so far, and for getting onto the summer school 

Hope we get results soon! 

6 hours ago, The red shoes said:

They aren’t allowed to attend associates if they go to Elmhurst full time. I think Tring allow their students to do MA’s though xx

Thank you 

Just a question whilst we await MA results, do children attending elmhurst, tring or other vocational schools still attend associate classes/ are they allowed to? Just wondering how much movement to expect and if DD is lucky enough to make the waitlist how likely she could be to get a place. 

1 minute ago, The red shoes said:

I think the Northern ballet do a scheme .... ?? 🤔🤔🤔

thank you, will look into that then 

34 minutes ago, Bunny said:

My DS (from the north!) has made the WL waitlist. He doesn’t have an Instagram. We did absolutely no additional training, no private lessons, no one to one coaching. Just his normal ballet class and JA class via Zoom. Looking at the results and seeing all these posts on Instagram, as well as his reaction to the news, I can’t help but feel I have let him down by not realising this was the apparent ‘norm’ 😓 

yes I feel you, I had no idea this was the norm either. Congratulations to your DS I hope he gets a place 🍀

30 minutes ago, SissonneDoublee said:

To take only this year’s intake of one school, and only one gender within the Year 7 class as a sample, is hardly a representation of the children accessing vocational training. To claim that they all come from the south while discounting any reference to previous year groups ‘because we are talking about this year’s intake’ is absurd. Looking at such a tiny sample can only observe coincidences. Several posters have pointed out that this is not a pattern over time.

 

When talking about students accessing huge amounts of training and having a massive online presence, you have to also bear in mind the huge number of children that do both these things without securing a place at any of the vocational schools. Having lots of classes with ‘big name’ teachers and posting photos on Instagram doesn’t lead to a vocational place. Hard work sometimes includes these things, particularly the additional training, but there are many other factors. Any child in a ballet class is capable of asking for additional exercises to do at home and practicing daily. That will make more difference than a dozen online tutorials. Lots of posters have said that they know of DC who had very few lessons apart from a couple of ballet lessons and a good associates programme each week. Again, you can’t look at only part of one cohort and try to make any conclusions, ignoring all references to previous year groups.

 

Every year we comb through the ‘yeses’ trying to find an explanation or a pattern. It’s only natural to look for answers, especially when faced with a disappointment. But to try to put it down to privilege or geography rather than talent, hard work and physical suitability, is insulting to the children that have worked so hard to get there.

No intention to insult, in fact I think it’s been commented how immensely talented these children appear to be this year, that there doesn’t appear to be any rough diamonds in the mix. it is a discussion forum after all, I have mentioned several times how it was an observation that could be a complete coincidence. But with prestige schools it is well known that sometimes being more privileged can stand you in better stead and it again is just an observation that many have had access to multiple coaches that a lot would not have the means to access 

5 minutes ago, Momapalooza said:

If I sounded like it, I apologise, but I wasn’t intending to make sweeping generalisations. My original post was more about a concern that this could be the trend moving forwards. Of course I would be happy to be proven wrong and that this particular year would not be the norm for the following years. The past year has been a very different ones and this of course could be a factor. The only reason I was saying my comment was for a particular intake is to address those who thought I was making a general comment covering several years.  There is no pattern as such, and I wasn’t alluding to any, but what I was hoping won’t happen is that for this to become a pattern because that would severely limit the demographic of children who can access full time training in vocational schools. I obviously don’t know the circumstances of these DCs and I would never claim to, but an interesting thought I had was that how many of these kids would actually need a substantial level of MDS funding?   I know of many lovely stories of DCs who are funded through associates etc where the family cannot afford such extras, but I still personally believe that to attain a certain level to be truly competitive one has to have means to do so or be so stunning as to be awarded scholarships or other sorts of funding.  Would everyone have the time to travel long hours to access a particular associates? Attend classes almost every day of the week? Have privates? 
 

I had no intention to be insulting. In my previous posts I had made this clear that I don’t wish to take anything from ang children.  No one can dispute their talent, hard work and suitability which is why they achieved what they did. However, I stand by my statement that having the means to fully complement, nurture, progress and enhance these attributes helps. Perhaps I am wrong and a “rough diamond” can show up in a group of exquisitely trained, hardworking, determined dancers and be noticed. Anyone who gets to these final stages of getting into full time schools must have potential and facility  of some level. The difference might be that better trained young dancers would probably know how to harness their strengths, and hide weaknesses (if any).

The bottom line is that I would like to see a pattern NOT to emerge. You are completely right and that this is just this year’s. It would be a nice thought that everyone who works hard and has the potential has an equal chance to achieve their dream, regardless of having the means to do so. I always did say I love a good success story, and much prefer those that are about people who managed to defy odds.  

completely agree. I don’t think it’s absurd at all to make an observation on a specific year especially when this year has been such a changing year on how things are done. It is a discussion forum after all 

24 minutes ago, Momapalooza said:

I believe @Ballerina_girl was referring to only this year’s offers of places to a certain school. We don’t dispute there have been lots from the north and beyond but one can easily do a search of the school’s name on social media to see that for a specific gender, this year’s offers for entry are predominantly for DC who live or based in South. I’d say maybe South of the midlands. The same search would reveal that for quite a few of these they have been trained by multiple schools and teachers. It would also appear just based on observation of social media posts by said children and or their schools that they have trained perhaps in unprecedented levels compared to say 4-5 years ago of similar children. Not claiming this to be fact but just observation of what is in the public domain being posted. And very very specific to recent offers of a particular intake (THIS year) of a particular gender to a particular school.

Absolutely. This years intake for WL specifically. It’s there on social media for all to see.  I cannot and was not commenting on previous years. Absolutely these children this year have been trained in unprecedented levels. For children who’s family cannot afford this level of training or don’t have access to it I think they’ve been disadvantaged this year.