San Perregrino
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54 minutes ago, MJW said:
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Interesting....I'll see what happens Saturday afternoon!
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I spoke to Front of House when I arrived at this evening. Curtain call photos are permitted.Â
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15 minutes ago, Rob S said:
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Well that is odd! Where were you sat?
First Circle Side Gallery oppsite you. I chatted to the security chap after. He was very pleasant. His briefing was no cameras. I suggested that this might not include curtain calls and that both he and I might better inform ourselves before tonightâs show.Â
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59 minutes ago, Rob S said:
I got told to put my phone away at the curtain call.Â
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3 minutes ago, JNC said:
@San Perregrino I think any professional dancer knows the difference between a gala, where an excerpt is danced and yes you still convey emotion and character but itâs only a segment, so once youâve performed of course you take your applause and now then.Â
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This is different to a full story ballet being performed where dancers (in my opinion) should be in character when on stage until the very last curtain drop. I appreciate that dancers perhaps feel they are responding to the prolonged applause and âthankingâ the audience for this, but Iâd rather the conductor swiftly moved the music along and the dancers saved the bows for the curtain call (unless as already mentioned it could be part of the plot where theyâre dancing to an audience in the ballet itself, in this case I think theyâre still in character).Â
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Itâs obviously not easy to keep dancing with maximum effort but they shouldnât âneedâ to have an on stage bow for stamina reasons, other dancers can manage. The choreography/music is designed so after a big solo or pas de deux they have some rest time in the wings while the other dancers do their bit.Â
ÂThis isnât be being critical to Nunez/Muntagirov specifically, I donât like it when any dancer does this type of thing. Galas and plotless ballets are different!Â
ÂImagine if Hamlet broke character for a bow and some smiles to the audience after a big soliloquy? Ultimately anything that is definitely a break in character before the final curtain call I tend to find removes me from the plot slightly and therefore removes some of the âmagicâ of the story theyâre trying to tell. Itâs not going to stop me seeing performances by great dancers or writing into ROH to complain but itâs my preference.Â
I totally agree with you on all points.Â
It totally irks me when dancers stop the action and step out of character to smile and take prolonged bows mid story. Itâs another form of distraction. Coming from a theatrical background it makes me start wondering how invested a dancer actually is in becoming a character and living his/her truth if they can turn it on and off so easily. But, theatre and ballet are different art forms and perhaps I expect too much.Â- 5
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1 hour ago, JNC said:
On opening night there was almost a mini âcurtain callâ (no curtain) for Marianela and Vadim after the act 2 pas de deux. Deserved but it totally broke the spell of the plot for me and yes felt âuntraditionalâ to ROH - in as I see this more from Russian companies but it didnât really happen much at ROH previously? I suppose they are only responding to fans but I do wish they wouldnât do it at certain points.
Perhaps because they dance extracts at so many galas they are used to applause at the end of a sequence where in the context of the complete narrative it makes no sense at all?My observation is that Nunez and Muntagirov are the couple most likely to step out of character to take a prolonged bow mid-ballet be it Swan Lake or Don Quixote. However, these are complex technical and emotional sequences so on a practical level, for dancers of any age, let alone those more advanced in their careers, an opportunity to get oneâs breath back is probably most welcome.Â
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3 hours ago, Tattin said:
I'm going to the cinema screening. Can anyone tell me at roughly what time I will find the "full" cast on line, i.e. other than just the principals ,Queen, Benno, Von Rothbart and Siegfried's sisters. I'd like to know as I have to drive some way to pick up a friend first so shan't be able to look at the last minute.Â
https://www.roh.org.uk/tickets-and-events/43/swan-lake-by-liam-scarlett/cast-list/54729 -
Humming bus conductors, that takes me backÂ
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19 minutes ago, Sim said:
There are many people on the site who have been watching ballet/dance avidly for many decades, and have a profound understanding and admiration for the art form. They may not be academics or directly involved in ballet, but they often outclass the professional writers and others with their insights.
and, might I be so bold as to suggest that, once upon a time, the people who might now consider themselves to belong to the above categories might well have started out as âfanboys/girls, relatives and newbies' , their enthusiasm and curiosity for ballet subsequently engaging them so they added to their experience and knowledge over the course of time.Â
IMHO an opinion is just an opinion. an interesting opinion is supported by rationale. the opinion of a fanboy/girl is equally as valid as that of someone who has spent a lifetime watching and studying something provided that the context is given.Â- 8
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7 hours ago, alison said:
Very sad to hear this. Also very sad to see that the BBC, despite its links to him, didn't see his death worthy of a mention on the news this evening.
I heard it on the BBC radio news yesterday.Â
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if anyone has a spare or can't use their ticket, please DM me.
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To see Sarah Lamb dance anything is a memory to cherish. Â Her performance last night is another such cherished memory as will be her two upcoming performances. I urge anyone who wants to see her dance Odette/Odile to do so during this run. Â Much as we want dancers to go on forever, Time waits for no man or woman.
Reece Clarke as Siegfried literally enveloped her with his love at points during the evening as their connection was both visible and emotional.Â
Was it my imagination or had the courtiers withdrawn or receded more than usual from the stage in Act III in order to create the space needed for Reece to soar in his solo sequences?
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6 hours ago, Fiona said:
Why does the word "re-imagining" fill me with dread!!
Well, I saw London Tide at the NT last night. An âadaptationâ of Dickenâs âOur Mutual Friendâ, this version has been given a woke ending along the same lines as ENBâs Raymonda.
Much as Raymonda abandons a man she might love, instead leaving to âfind herself and her destinyâ, in London Tide, Lizzie Hexham doesnât marry the man she thinks she might love but instead heads out to âfind herself and her destinyâ.
Can we expect the same for Ballet Shoes or some gender swapping of the characters perhaps?Â
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The Judas Tree as Iâm keen to watch things that I havenât yet seen.
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5 minutes ago, FionaM said:
all I could find was a subscribe button.  No listing of the new season?  đ€Â
I had to faff around a lot with the calendar. I couldnât find a simple list.Â
@Bruce Wall can you help? Thanks -
15 minutes ago, Jan McNulty said:
Link still not working. I think itâs possibly got something to do with booking not opening tomorrow and/or there being a queuing system in operation.Â
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Royal Danish Ballet 2024/2025 season includes:
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Giant Steps: Balanchine Evening: Serenade, The Four Tempéraments, Symphony in C.
The Princess & The PeaÂ
Bournonvilleâs (Englund and HĂŒbbe) A Folk Tale
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Blood Wedding (new work by Eukene Sagues)
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Balanchineâs NutcrackerÂ
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Wheeldonâs Sleeping Beauty
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HĂŒbbeâs Don Quixote
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The Great Gatsby (new work by Arthur Pita)
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i donât think the prices are expensive for central London in mid-December. Â They range from ÂŁ20 for rear stalls up to ÂŁ72 for front stalls depending on the performance with the weekend being slightly higher.
The price range for Richmond in late November and Woking in January is broadly similar. Richmond also has premium seats inc drinks & nibbles at ÂŁ105.
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For comparison stalls seats for:
A Christmas Carol at the Old Vic range from ÂŁ25 - ÂŁ180
and for:
ENB Nutcracker at the Coliseum range from ÂŁ85-ÂŁ115 (child reduction is available)
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9 hours ago, Birdy said:
The show was sold out within a minute of ticket sales starting
Iâm always surprised with events that present/showcase students that parents dont automatically receive a pair of tickets or at least âfirst refusalâ to buy some ahead of the general public.Â
Were it a âgrown upâ evening sponsored by âX,Y & Z S.A.or Ltdâ Iâm sure these sponsors would have received an allocation. In this instance Iâd suggest parents are the equivalent of the sponsor.- 1
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It wouldnât surprise me if R&J was programmed along the same lines as Swan Lake this season i.e. spaced out from March until June with things inbetween, say another full length like Onegin and, in my dreams, thereâd be a Triple that included my favourite âSymphony in Câ.
Separating Alice from Cinderella with Maddaddam would certainly help even out the âsweetnessâ quotient of the first two thereby potentially attracting a different demographic.Â
The scheduling of Maddaddam and Onegin could easily be reversed too.Is Like Water For Chocolate due for a revival?
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11 minutes ago, capybara said:
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Not the way I look at it.
The soliloquy between Acts 1&2 is gorgeous, his Act 3 variation can be spectacular. The rest is partnering an Odette or an Odile who completely obscures Siegfried from view for much of the time.
@Maryâs version (see above) would sort the dancing issue for me nicely. But not the ending đ€
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As I said heâs got a lot to do once out of the starting gate. Partnering is dancing surely as itâs integral to the choreography?Â
Another random thought is, in an era where obviously great store is given to chaperoning princesses and young women, why is Odile allowed to disappear alone with Siegfried running off after her and what could the pair of them possibly be doing together out of sight of their elders?Â- 2
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2 minutes ago, Mary said:
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change Benno's Act 1 costume so he looked less like Buttons in a pantomime;
cut about half his dancing in Act 1Â and give it to Siegfried ( I find it very frustrating when Siegfried just teases us with tiny bits of dancing here and there);
It randomly crossed my mind last time I watched SL what would the reaction be if, rather than saying no to dancing with his sisters, Siegfried decided that a bit of a dance might be just what he needed to dispel his melancholy tendenciesâŠ? though perhaps then he wouldnât need to slip off to the woods and the lake which would make it a shorter ballet as he wouldnât see the swans.Â
Personally Iâd keep the Benno dancing because it means better opportunities for more male dancers. Siegfried does have a lot to do once heâs out of the starting gate.Â
As far as costumes go, Iâd get rid of all black tights and shoes. A lot of the choreography especially in Act 3 is lost to view because black blends in to the richness of the Palace background rather than standing out. Whatâs the point of making all that effort for the audience not to be able to the skill involved? -
40 minutes ago, Sim said:
But I would like it more if Siegfried had put up a good fight,
A bit hard to do if youâve been knocked unconscious. This Siegfried has shown us in previous scenes that heâs under his motherâs thumb and somewhat afraid of Von Rothbart at court. So having him taken out the action with a single blow sort of makes sense.Â
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Birmingham Royal Ballet - Sleeping Beauty, Spring 2024
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