Stevie

32 minutes ago, alison said:

What a shame the World Gymnastic Championships have just finished  

Don't think Max Richter could have done gymnastics. Irena Osipova on the 😼other hand is a very accomplished pianist

I don't know if most people have seen this production and hence what to expect. However for anyone who has not, then they are in for a real  treat and a ride. The Max Richter score takes us through some magical moments, dance performances and choreography. The second act adrenaline rush ends with whoops and holler's from a breathless, approving audience and Osipova demonstrates how to kick her forehead with backward kicks. How is that possible ? Worth the wait I think.

10 minutes ago, Sim said:

I think Esmeralda means that she shouted for joy when she read JohnS’s post!  

I guess so, a very happy punter indeed. Hope it all becomes a reality for her.

1 hour ago, Esmeralda said:

 

My dear colleagues heard a shout of joy just now😄! Thank you for bringing such great news!

Esmiralda, where did the shout of joy that you heard come from. I am sure 😉that you cant have heard me from Germany ?

16 minutes ago, Richard LH said:

Interesting that Opus Arte, despite being "the Royal Opera House's multi-platform arts production and distribution company" provides "Purchase From" links to Amazon and Presto, but not to ROH's own shop !

It appears that this news is 'hot off the press'. Just spoken to someone at ROH marketing and they themselves have only just heard about the release. Let's just rejoice in that it does appear to be getting a release. I wonder if they have seen the requests from this forum ?

12 minutes ago, JohnS said:

 

I'd asked Opus Arte about Woolf Works as I'd heard there was some activity.  Very pleased to have received an email just now:

 

"Opus Arte will be releasing WOOLF WORKS in February next year."

Great news and a lot of happy people around.😰

7 minutes ago, Balletfanp said:

I’m pretty sure I have seen somewhere that the Lamb/Muntagirov Manon is to be released - when, who knows.

Can you find the source, I have trawled through all the comments on the RB website and found no response to the question. Also asked a CG marketing assistant and told no news on that subject yet.

59 minutes ago, Richard LH said:

I was referring to the Lamb/Muntagirov  streaming as the most likely source of any new Manon disc (more up-to-date than Rojo/Acosta).

There is no response from official sources to the many requests for a release on DVD and Blu-Ray. So whilst a definite no has not been extracted, I prefer to say that it is a possibility and we can hope rather than assume it is definite or likely.

The only definite source on Blu-Ray at the moment is the POB version, with Roberto Bolle and with Aurelie Dupont's farewell performance. One could debate if it is better or worse, but it is still good. What is not certain is whether a release so soon after the POB release would be seen as an adverse impact potential sales.

52 minutes ago, Richard LH said:

Presumably from the Lamb/Muntagirov live cinema screening ?

No, the 2014 streaming example given, was Nunez and Bonelli. Will just have to wait and see if anything in the future is released from the recent Lamb/Muntagirov  streaming.

1 hour ago, alison said:

DVD players can be had for £20 and under in the UK.  It's hardly a major investment these days, and if the ROH and others are going to continue issuing recordings on the medium, then it would seem sensible for ballet/opera fans to have one - or even so they can play the "legacy" recordings they already have.

1 hour ago, alison said:

DVD players can be had for £20 and under in the UK.  It's hardly a major investment these days, and if the ROH and others are going to continue issuing recordings on the medium, then it would seem sensible for ballet/opera fans to have one - or even so they can play the "legacy" recordings they already have.

It appears that this thread has somehow been hi jacked. It started as a question of why 'Woolf Works' was not being distributed on DVD and now it appears to have degenerated into the legalities of streaming, the cost of DVD players and other matters. It would be useful if a focus on the subject matter could be maintained without racing off at a tangent.

7 hours ago, bridiem said:

 

Thanks for posting this, Stevie (not that I really understand it!). But I would just wonder why this would apply to WW and not to so many other works where it has been possible to produce DVDs? Was WW filmed in a different resolution? Just thinking aloud.

It just doesn't apply to Woolf Works, there are many similar examples where productions have not been distributed on DVD,for much the same reason. MariinskyTV have filmed many Ballets for their TV programes, which have not been released on DVD. Many of which can be viewed on youtube where they have been placed without challenging copyright. They are good when viewed on a monitor, but when viewed on a large screen smart TV, the lower resolution is apparent.

52 minutes ago, Esmeralda said:

Thank you Stevie, for posting the technical infos! I am afraid, I don´t understand them either😳

 

I just asked me the same questions as bridiem...Maybe we wouldn´t ask these questions, if we would understand the technical infos🙂

 

Ah, the Amazon problem...I have often the same thoughts - do I support the local shops etc. or buy it cheaper at Amazon...When I buy things from RB at the german Amazon page it is cheaper for me as if I would buy it at the shop at ROH.

All these are assumptions, but if the Television rights were sold, then they would not have needed to film it in higher definition than HDTV and if there was no intention to transfer it to DVD, why pay the higher production costs. For Cinema streaming it does not need the higher compression, because it is done digitally and not transferred to disk. It is good to ask questions and to seek out answers. The outcome however is the same, it appears we are not getting it distributed, whether we like it or not.

1 hour ago, Richard LH said:

I hope it sells well, too, but the ROH itself is hardly a competitive sales outlet for recordings, when it charges £33.05 for this Blu-Ray, (£29.95 plus  £3.10 standard delivery) whilst at the same time Amazon are selling it for £25.29 with their free delivery option (which I find usually arrives in a day or two despite Amazon allowing for a longer period).

Even buying it at the ROH shop, with a 10% Friends' discount, it would be £26.95. 

 

Similarly with books - we recently bought "Ballet: The Definitive Illustrated Story" from the ROH shop at £22.50 after  Friends' discount, only to find  iit selling on Amazon for £16.82 with free delivery. The only plus is that we could ensure it was a nice copy and not battered by the delivery system.

1 hour ago, Richard LH said:

I hope it sells well, too, but the ROH itself is hardly a competitive sales outlet for recordings, when it charges £33.05 for this Blu-Ray, (£29.95 plus  £3.10 standard delivery) whilst at the same time Amazon are selling it for £25.29 with their free delivery option (which I find usually arrives in a day or two despite Amazon allowing for a longer period).

Even buying it at the ROH shop, with a 10% Friends' discount, it would be £26.95. 

 

Similarly with books - we recently bought "Ballet: The Definitive Illustrated Story" from the ROH shop at £22.50 after  Friends' discount, only to find  iit selling on Amazon for £16.82 with free delivery. The only plus is that we could ensure it was a nice copy and not battered by the delivery system.

Bernstein Celebration Blu-Ray  is currently available on ebay uk at £7.78 (Auction) plus £5 p&p, brand new and sealed., from seller classicalmusiccollector . He despatches from Australia, multi regional, very reliable and always arrive within 10 days. Its best to shop around, but I did what others did, dived in to buy it early, despite knowing it would come up at this price

On 01/11/2018 at 22:20, Vanartus said:

Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!! It must happen....

Really sorry that you cant be helped with your student education. There is a film  Mrs Dallaway with Vanessa Redgrave on DVD and a  few clips  of Royal Ballet  production on youtube, which may be of some help.

On 02/11/2018 at 14:12, Esmeralda said:

 

Thank you for your explanation, I am afraid I am not long enough to be on this forum so this discussion escaped me. Still finding it weird, honestly. Aren´t normally the rights not sold to c-major so this is a complete suprise turn by them? Or maybe c- major will sell the rights for the DVD to someone else. I mean, it is about an opportunity to make money I can´t believe that no one will see this chance...

Esmeralda, a tech type has tried to give a possible explanation. If this is right, there could be a technical reason as well as a commercial one. This is it, although I don't pretend to understand in the least.

1 hour ago, charliewise said:

I'm really pleased that the Bernstein Celebration has been issued (especially as I didn't catch it at the ROH).  I hope it sells well enough for them to continue releasing less well known works. 

 

I can't think of any other company releasing triple bills like this - not with any sort of regularity anyway (except the gem that was NYCB in Paris).

29 minutes ago, alison said:

Ah, okay.  I searched for "c-major" rather than "cmajor", but even then nothing came up - and the little I found by Googling didn't seem relevant either.  Sorry  

24 minutes ago, Stevie said:

Yes we know, all that was part of the previous debate. However, the Richter score and the TV rights iS not what the members are seeking, its a DVD release

I have just made a second application to cmajor, for the release of Woolf Works on DVD and Blu-ray. I suggest that all interested parties make a direct request to them in the hope that they will see market potential. Don't think there is anything more to discuss at the moment,but will share any reply.

After this flurry of activity again on Woolf Works, I have decide to stay in and watch it again tonight, instead of going around to the pub. It is an exceptional production and the TV recording is in HD. I can open a bottle of wine and chill without going out into the cold. Anyone wish to join me, all welcome.

2 minutes ago, Bluebird said:

 

Found it........

 

Yes we know, all that was part of the previous debate. However, the Richter score and the TV rights iS not what the members are seeking, its a DVD release

1 minute ago, alison said:

Me too.  I can't find any other references to c-major on this forum, either.

I cant remember the heading, but a whole lot of interactive debate on this topic, which I was drawn into.  I had contacted ROH marketing and advised the rights sold to cmajor. Someone had seen the attached and assumed it was for a DVD release. However you will see that it is an advertisement for the HDTV distribution. Cmajor say they only have the intent to distribute the TV rights and the sound track. So speculate, hope, for the future, whatever, but there is no current plan to release the DVD.

By all means contact cmajor directly and let them know your feelings.

   https://www.cmajor-entertainment.com/movie/roh-woolf-works-a02050103/.

5 minutes ago, Esmeralda said:

 

May I ask why? Is there any reason why it doesn´t get a release? It was filmed and released in the cinemas, so I really don´t understand why there shouldn´t be a DVD/Blu Ray...

The topic was thoroughly exhausted some months ago. Making it brief, the rights were sold to c-major who elected to use the TV distribution and sound recording rights, but nothing else. You can check with them directly or through their website, but I am sure they will confirm, as they did before that there is no intention to release a DVD, it is merely HDTV.

On 25/09/2018 at 19:52, Angela said:

 

What?! Not in Germany. We had a cinema screening of it last Sunday and it will be on arte TV on Dec. 16, but there's yet no DVD announced on amazon.de. You can see the cover and a trailer (scroll down) here:  http://www.ballett-im-kino.de/

It is now listed on Amazon.de for a release date for DVD and Blu-ray of 16th November. A date worth waiting for I am sure. 

On 21/10/2018 at 09:55, annamk said:

Did anyone see the matinee performance yesterday and the debut of Aitor Arrieta as Des Grieux ? 

And the Bolshoi now release another  blu-ray boxset on 9th November, which in the unlikely event that you don't already have them all, is a bargain at £34.99 for the four great productions, La Bayadere, Marco Spada, Swan lake and The Golden Age. Will have cost me over £80 to get these four separately.