Bex does ballet

On 02/04/2020 at 07:27, Karen said:

DD has received her first offer of representation from an agency after submitting her show reel and a Skype interview. More Interviews to come, but a fabulous start and she loved the agent and his attitude, so it might well be this one! 

Karen, 

that’s great news!
I wonder if you would mind explaining the role the agent will play. Is this with a view to finding dance roles in a ‘portfolio career’ rather than joining a company? Is she aiming for varied dance roles, classical ballet roles, musical theatre roles or a mixture? 
Im sorry if this sounds ignorant but I hadn’t even considered the idea of an agent but this sounds like it could be a very sensible and rewarding step. I wouldn’t even know where you look to find a reputable agent but would be interested to hear more. Would you mind pm ing me about the agent your dd liked, it might be a good place to start looking when my dds time comes. 
congratulations on your dds offer 

51 minutes ago, WrapsnBows said:

Lol more guts than me but then my two are 11 n 19 so it be sooo uncool for me to join in in the front drive #streetcred 🤣

Dd is 18! 

I’ve never done a single step of ballet, but this morning joined my dd for an online class , I’m not sure she was impressed 😂 

We use an inexpensive stair bannister rail attached to the wall with the bannister brackets. Bought at b&q before lockdown. Not sure if you could order online for delivery 🚚 

Have pmd you alexander

41 minutes ago, rowan said:

 There are also a lot of ballet schools out there in the world - the world - the vast majority of which most people won’t have heard of. It can be easy to fall into a trap of thinking that X Not Famous ballet school won’t be much good and their students are no threat, otherwise they’d be at somewhere “better” = well known. This is not the case at all. In fact, it may sometimes be the opposite. 

Absolutely! But those “better” “famous” ballet schools trade on their reputation  and a large part of that includes the publishing of graduate destinations so I’m surprised that there doesn’t seem to be a great deal of help given to students to prepare for the audition season. Are they just hoping that the ‘name’ will do all the work for them? That would be a mistake in my opinion. 

12 hours ago, Darcey15 said:

Back to the question-Has any had any positive experiences of their vs helping them to find a job? I’ve been very disappointed in what I’ve heard lately and the lack of care or interest Some schools have .

I’ve been surprised, maybe I have unrealistic expectations! 

15 hours ago, rowan said:

To be frank, I’m not sure that anyone should be optimistic about chances of getting a job in ballet. In fact, realistically, it’s downright idiotic to aim for it. You are much more likely to get a decent dancing job if you aim for other types of dance.  It’s hard to comprehend when your child is younger and all things seem possible, no matter how much you read about the odds.
 

I agree it’s important to be realistic about the odds and have that plan B ( & C). Sometimes being realistic can descend into despair   So, my comment about optimism was mostly about the fact that it’s possible to at least be invited to auditions without huge support from the school in regards to arranging photos, dvds, solos etc. The next bit is in the lap of the dancing Gods. 
We have been disappointed by the lack of support for, or interest in, these aspects and this led me to wonder wether our experience was unique to the school ( or cohort within the school) or maybe my expectations around this were unrealistic - hence the original post.  
I’m feeling better having read about your daughter’s experience, that dd can at least make it work enough to get auditions. The rest will be what it will be! 
I really do appreciate your reply and insight! 

Thank you for your well thought out and topical reply Rowan. Food for thought and a little much- needed optimism ( all be it, tempered by realistic expectations) I really appreciate the insight 

I don’t know of any schools insisting pupils attend their summer school. As Jane said, it’s probable that their summer school would already have been filled anyway. 
I think your pupil should go ahead and enjoy the summer school which they chose ( for very good reasons I’m sure) and enjoy experience before ( hopefully) going on to their upper school, full of joyful memories and maybe some new friends 

Thanks bluebird 

there appears to be a picture emerging 

Thanks Pictures, that’s interesting to hear and more like what I would have expected! 

Thank you all for your replies. I am beginning to think that my worst fears are being confirmed since no one has given a particularly positive report of plenty of support. 

I honestly believed that whilst I was under no illusion of it being a level playing field, there would at very least be a good basic level of support  for all students in choreographing/ recording a dvd, suggestions about where / when to audition/ help with decent audition photos/ being kept up to date on audiRuin  opportunities., Maybe even inviting artistic directors into school to see ALL students  (equally... 🤣....Oh how naive... ) . Us non dance world parents have a lot to learn 

Thanks for the reply DD driver. That’s a very interesting point about the European schools.
 

I would have thought it was in the best interest of all schools to help as many as possible  find employment and not just the one or two who may be lucky (talented) enough to get a spot within the affiliate company. As you say, a school’s reputation depends , in part, on its graduate destinations. Is it a case, I wonder, that they pour so much time and effort ( and attention) on those lucky few that the rest are left to fend for themselves? Or is everyone given equal weight but only those rare exceptionally talented few are destined for company jobs? 

 I should maybe say that I’m well aware that the current climate is extremely difficult and that company jobs are hard to come by, so I understand the frustration of many grads who may be extremely talented and well trained but still not find that elusive contract - just want to know how much assistance and advice they have been given and how much this differs between schools. 

Hi I’m looking for personal experiences from recent ( ish ) graduates. I’d love to hear about just how much help your school/college ( I’m talking mainly British vocational training establishments here) actually give you? 
I’d be interested to hear how much advice was given about where to apply? Was help given in school to make rehearse/ plan/produce audition dvds ( or online equivalent) ? Were company artistic directors invited into school or for a special performance? Were solos choreographed/ rehearsed by staff for auditions?  Or were the dancers ( or parents?) left pretty much to sort this sort of stuff out on their own? 
I’m wondering how experiences differ between different institutions - I don’t want to start a “my school’s better than your school” style debate, just after honest appraisal of the process in different places 

37 minutes ago, Bluebird22 said:

There was someone advertising as an advisor, think he set up a thread. He said he would assess potential and offer advice 

It was Matz Skoog I think this should take you to the post herehttps://www.balletcoforum.com/topic/21606-2020-a-new-year-and-new-challenges/?tab=comments#comment-303236

I haven’t actually read it so I can’t comment on it’s suitability for yr 8s but I personally would love to read Dame Gillian Lynn’s biography. What a woman! 
( thanks for the reminder, off to order it on Am...n prime)

I believe this is somewhat from the USA perspective but is an article on just this subject so there are some pertinent points

https://www.pointemagazine.com/diy-ballet-summer-intensive-2638866429.html?utm_source=Pointe+Magazine+Newsletter&utm_campaign=2f73997824-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_06_19_02_51&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_379f4c7666-2f73997824-50764331

hope the link works, I’m no good at that sort of thing

havingbsaid that, the advice above is excellent advice which  I wholeheartedly agree with

I was just about to say the shame as crystalips, I have done the journey a few times, just as described above, always at the weekend, on at least one occasion on a match day, obviously you’ll need to allow extra time for traffic on a match day but I’ve never had any trouble parking right outside on the street

Have sent you a pm

Ordered on 2nd April, got a confirmation the next day and order arrived on Saturday 

Mine all arrived fine within a few days 

no email as yet but have just been on the ucas site and the status has changed 

i once bought dd s very ‘proper’ ballet teacher a lovely China tea cup and saucer with some speciality tea and a box of ‘special’ biscuits. It seemed so much more appropriate for her than alcohol 

Just checking, anyone had results from RCS yet?