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You could as the school directly, but school years in the UK aren't flexible like they are in some other countries so you have to enter the year that corresponds to your age. Elmhurst is a top school so they surely have more than enough applicants at the required level.. A 17 year old would need to be at the standard of year 13.

Some other ballet schools that don't have a lower school accept 17 year olds into the first year of their programme.

Has she been taking grade 4 classes alongside the IF classes? How many classes per week of each?

Very sad and shocking news. 

I thought she looked frail on Tuesday and we've been hearing that she's had mobility difficulties for a while but her death seemed come very suddenly. 
She was very stoic. 

Absolutely shocked to read this. Such a talented man. I admired his talent and drive. 

West End star Darius Danesh has died aged 41 | WhatsOnStage

Pardon my ignorance but what is the connection between Covid and not wearing demi-pointes? 🙃

On 05/02/2022 at 21:32, Sabine0308 said:

I felt sorry for the Japanese dancers, I think some of them very really strong but then the nerves set in, one even fell onstage. 

Min Lee of South Korea fell in his classical variation and having watched it again it looks as if the stage was slippery in that spot because he didn't appear to do anything wrong technically. Micah Levine of the US fell in the same spot in the warm up class.  
 

On 06/02/2022 at 16:07, Sabine0308 said:

I just realized we had this topic in 2020 already 😀, here the comparison:

https://www.balletcoforum.com/topic/22012-prix-de-lausanne-2020/?do=findComment&comment=309671

What Shale received the award, there seemed to be some confusion because when the criteria for the award was announced, the judges could be heard mumbling something like "oh, actually we haven't done it like that!"

So many stand-outs there, the level was extremely high this year. 

Interesting that only 10 boys were selected to compete in the junior men's category and of those 10, 6 made the final. 

2 hours ago, Aklf said:

Anyone else struggling with the live stream this morning or is it just my internet? 😩

No problems here. 

23 hours ago, Sadielou said:

 Not sure when we will be able to perform again as our school has lost a lot of students over the past two years due to lockdowns, and there is currently no way of covering costs without asking parents for a ridiculous amount in contributions.  

That's a good point. My DD's school has had to put a cap on the number of students in a class due to Covid regulations which will also make it more difficult to cover costs.

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2 hours ago, LinMM said:

There are some winners and finalists in the current RB Company too.

Mayara Magri Leticia Dias Cesar Corrales and the young Italian boy from last year Marco Masciari ( 2020) 

Im sure there is a Japanese boy also just joined the Royal Ballet who was a finalist or winner there. 
 

Also Luca Acri, David Yudes, Harrison Lee, Sae Maeda, Stanislaw Wegrzyn, Yu Hang, Hanna Park and I'm possibly forgetting someone!

Marco Masciari is still the Prix de Lausanne apprentice but I hope he will be taken into the main company.

2 hours ago, Pups_mum said:

The best I ever heard was at a music competition which my son won, despite obviously not being the best player on the day. And there was a significant monetary prize so it was all a bit awkward! But the adjudicator explained it beautifully. It was actually a masterclass kind of thing. Each competitor gave their performance, had what was essentially a short public lesson from the adjudicator and then performed their piece again. She gave really detailed feedback to them all, but said that she'd chosen my son because he was the one who had best implemented her teaching into his second performance and gave very specific examples. The word "best" was never used. It made sense. My son felt like he deserved his prize, and whilst the most accomplished player was clearly still disappointed, they "got it" too. Nobody felt insulted. (Or if they did, they hid it extremely well.)

Being able to take direction is a vital skill for both a musician and a dancer and an extremely valid reason to award first place to one competitor over another, even moreso if the criteria for winning was explained in advance. In auditions for both schools and companies, this is a common reason for accepting one candidate over another who might appear to be a more obvious choice.

I always feel it's unfair when the criteria for winning is changed between the end of the performances and the awarding of the prize though!

30 minutes ago, Peony said:

Having to sign a child up for a year seems unfair I agree. Do you lose the entire years fees if they decide to drop out or have a change in circumstances part way through?

Yes, you lose the rest of the fees if they drop out.

When this DD was 6, she went to a different school. She had one trial lesson, then had to decide if she wanted to continue. She wanted to but it was difficult for me to decide because the studio was not conveniently located, it was quite a long walk and two buses which I had to navigate with a 3 year old and a baby in a pushchair. There had been an accident on the road on the way home which made our journey back very long, and it was difficult to figure out how long it was going to take in normal circumstances. We took the risk and signed her up, but two weeks later she got pneumonia and was off for three weeks. The pneumonia ended up triggering a form of arthritis which persisted for 2 years and she was unable to go back that year, so we basically ended up paying a few hundred euros for three lessons!

It seems to be standard here for extra currucilar activities that after a trial lesson you must enroll for a whole year. It's frustrating because it often takes more than that to decide whether an activity is for you, especially for young children. It definitely makes me wary about signing my children up for things.

On 30/01/2022 at 03:01, justme2 said:

The adjudicators comments were I am not awarding this award to the best dancer I am awarding it to the young dancer that I think may have a lot of promise.  Grand daughter was guttered but a fair loser, after that she decided she didnt need people like this in her life and gave up ballet all together she was at advanced 2. 

 

I think I'd have been more gutted if I was the one being handed first prize with an announcement that I wasn't the best dancer there, how embarassing! 

I recall when I was at secondary school and there was a rapping competition. There were two boys who were brilliant and were well known around the school for this, spending most of their free time putting new material together, performing locally etc. Obvously they were streets ahead of any other entries to this competition, but when the prizes came to be awarded, one of the judges (a teacher) came over to them and said that although everyone knows they're the best, they were going to have to give the first prize to another group otherwise people might be discouranged from entering similar competitions in the future. They shrugged and nodded their heads, but no one gained anything from the situation. It must have been discouraging for them not to be allowed to excel in the field in which they were talented and embarassing for the group who won, realising that they weren't the best there and probably entering the competition knowing everyone else was competing for second place. It was also disappointing for the audience not to see the first prize going to the group who most deserved it. 

We also had a very talented 100m runner at our school. On sports day, no one asked him to slow down a bit to give everyong else a chance at winning!

10 hours ago, Peony said:

About £20 per costume and pay for tickets to watch. Presuming your theatre fee includes tickets to watch id say it’s about average

The theatre fee does not include tickets, those are extra.

9 hours ago, Pups_mum said:

It costs a lot to put on a show. I had some idea when I helped out when my DD was a dancer but now she's a teacher it's even clearer to me.

€25 per costume is probably reasonable, assuming prices are similar to the UK. I used to source costumes for the school my DD danced with and I would do everything I could to minimise the costs - buying from abroad, scouring Ebay for multiple sellers who had small numbers of the same costume trying to make up enough for a group, ringing up companies trying to negotiate discounts on bulk purchases, altering things for people myself at no cost etc. I managed to get things much cheaper that way, but it was hard work and stressful and I can understand why lots of teachers just order from the IDS catalogue or similar.

It's an expensive business unfortunately. I nearly fainted when I discovered what it costs to hire backdrops!

I know it costs a lot to put on a show. I've put on lots of shows myself including some on a professional basis, but I worked predominantly in the field of Youth Dance so it was a bit different. I also used to make most of my own costumes which obviously kept the costs down a lot. When I was hiring a theatre, I used the revenue from ticket sales to cover both theatre hire and costumes. I can see how €25 per costume is reasonable, although I personally would have tried to cut down the cost of costumes by basing one of the costumes around the class leotard.

We've also been told that participation in the show is not compulsory which as a teacher seems like a nightmare because if someone is not taking part, what are you going to do with them in the lessons when everyone is rehearsing the show pieces?

I think DH was caught off guard because here you have to sign up for a year of classes and have to pay either all the fees up front or in two parts, and it wasn't made clear at the start that the lessons would culminate in a performance which cost more than €100 more to participate in.

I'm starting to realise what a good deal I was giving my students! 🤣

I'm just wondering how this works in the UK these days.

My daughter takes weekly ballet classes and the school she goes to are proposing and end of year show. Each class will perform 2 dances and we are being asked €50 for both costumes. Additionally, we are being asked for €30 towards the hire of the theatre, so each child has to pay €80 to perform in the show, more if they take other classes.

I think this is a bit steep but maybe I'm out of touch. I'd still like DD to have the experience of performing on stage but DH thinks it is unacceptable and doesn't want her to do it. 

Things work very differently over here and I'm still trying to get my head around everything but I'm curious to know this works in the UK.

The competition is currently being streamed live on the Prix de Lausanne website, Facebook and Arte Concert 🙂

 

11 minutes ago, Neverdancedjustamum said:

Does RBS permit their students to compete in PDL or YAGP? It seems to  recruit quite heavily from these competitions but I don’t seem to have seen any of their students participate unless they have a rule not allowing them to do so. I’ve seen candidates from Elmhurst and ENBS in the past, as well as from VBA, APG, TAZ etc.

RBS has stated in the past that they do not allow students to compete in competitions because due to their full schedules there isn't space in the timetable to accomodate competition preparation.

I also imagine that the majority of the students there are already at their dream school!

The list of candidates selected for the 2022 Prix De Lausanne can be found here Selected candidates for the Prix de Lausanne 2022 - Prix de Lausanne

In total, there were 10 entries from the UK, of which 3 were selected (2 from the video selections and 1 from the pre-selections)

These would be for my 9yo DD and the school has asked for full sole.

Useful to know Capezio is good for wider feet because my DD has very narrow feet!

It's been a long time since I've bought shoes. I used to buy a size up from street shoe size for children, but I don't think I've ever bought either of these two brands.

Do they generally fit true to size or do most people need to size up? They're full sole if that makes a difference. 

11 hours ago, BalletMum2020 said:

We haven't any fixed plans currently, maybe Rome? So we have some flexibility. I'm aware of Princess Grace, I'll check out the other one.

Scuola del Balletto di Roma are currently accepting applications for auditions. Details here:
Auditions for admission to the School of Dance | Balletto di Roma

In Rome there is also La Maison de la Danse. There used to be a Mum on this forum whose DD was training there but I don't think she still posts. There website is here:
https://www.lamaisonaccademiadidanza.it/

7 hours ago, BalletMum2020 said:

We are planning to move to Italy from the UK, and my daughter would prefer not to be too far away from us if possible.

Ah OK 🙂.
Where in Italy are you planning to live? As I mentioned before, the schools here are not residential so to train in Italy your daughter would have to stay living at home. 
Academy Princess Grace is popular with dance students from Italy. I trained there myself.

Tanz Akademie Zurich is another option that offers accomodation.

Why are you particularly interested in Italy? Most dancers here looking for a professional career look to train abroad unless they live in Milan or Rome because none of the schools offer accomodation. 

Accademia alla Scala is the most prestigious school here. You can find information on their course on their website:
Courses for professional dancers - Accademia Teatro alla Scala (accademialascala.it)
 

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