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I thought this was worth posting here as I gather lots are unfamiliar with this amazing service available to dancers/ dance teachers etc in England.
I have personally been referred by my GP in the past and had a speedy consultation (within a few weeks), MRI (within a month), then ongoing physiotherapy & rehab.
All free!Please spread the word.
The NHS Dance Injury Clinics are available at three hospitals in London, Birmingham and Bath with sports and exercise medicine (SEM) facilities and are FREE AT THE POINT OF USE.
In order to be referred to these services you must be registered with a GP.The NHS Dance Injury clinics are led by an SEM consultant with experience treating dancers, alongside a dance-specialist physiotherapist.
Each clinic is able to refer to a wider multidisciplinary team including podiatrists, surgeons, dieticians and psychologists/psychiatrists.
The NHS Dance Injury clinics advocate for a non-surgergical treatment approach where possible, with all clinics having less than 6% surgery referral rate.
Since the first clinic opening in 2012, across the three clinics they have seen more than 1,500 dancers.
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If you are in England ask your GP for a referral to the Dancers NHS Clinic.
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6 minutes ago, Ruby Foo said:
I would liken lifting out of your shoe to sitting on a chair properly...
… Actively using the strength in the toes, metatarsal, thighs, glutes, core and spine to maintain an upwardly lifted position and the opposite of 'sitting' in the shoes where the shoe is taking the strain.
Thank you for taking the time to clarify the above.
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37 minutes ago, Kate_N said:
"Lifting out of the shoe" is about imagery and focus more than the actual action (physically it's not entirely possible of course!) It's about ensuring you're on your leg and high up on your hip - to be able to feel & do this, you need to have an engaged core, that is zipped up under your ribs. It's a reminder to pull up! pull up! pull up!
As you say ‘physically it’s not entirely possible’, I always question why these types of cues are perpetuated even if used as imagery.I wonder if anyone can think of alternatives that would achieve the desired goal.
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Firstly, a serious question that was prompted by a comment in this thread,
What do people/ teachers mean when they say ‘lift out of the shoe’?
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Secondly, I can wholeheartedly recommend Lisa Howells resources.
https://theballetblog.com/project_category/pointe/https://mybeginnerpointe.com/shop/my-beginner-pointe-online-version/
YouTube playlist:
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https://www.prixdelausanne.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/contemporary-variations-2024.pdf
https://www.prixdelausanne.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/contemporary-variations-2023-2.pdf
https://www.prixdelausanne.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/CONTEMPORARY-VARIATIONS-2021.pdf
https://www.prixdelausanne.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/2020_CONTEMPORARY_VARIATIONS.pdf
https://www.prixdelausanne.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/2019_CONTEMPORARY_VARIATIONS.pdf
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I thought this may be of interest.
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These might seem obvious but the reference pages may point you where you want.
https://iadms.org/media/3597/iadms-resource-paper-turnout-anatomy.pdf
https://iadms.org/media/3601/iadms-resource-paper-turnout-supplemental-exercises.pdf
https://iadms.org/education-resources/blog/posts/2015/february/approaching-turnout-with-young-dancers-muscles-that-rotate-the-leg/
https://www.citraining.com/pdfs/Effective-Use-of-Turnout.pdfThe huge resource list for these slides might also prove useful.
https://shrs.uq.edu.au/files/15706/Kiely_Sarah_Turnout in the Dancer.pdf-
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19 minutes ago, Sim said:
Thanks. Do you know if he owns the copyright?
I’m afraid I don’t know anything further than what I gathered from a brief google search.
I felt comfortable posting as it had been uploaded to YouTube by the editor, one of the original creators of the show.
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12 minutes ago, Sim said:
Hello. We have hidden the post with the link to the ENB documentary as it is a pirated version, which we do not allow on the forum. May we please remind everyone that we can only permit official or copyrighted versions of videos here.
Thank you.
The links I shared were from Ian Davies’s YouTube account.
Ian Davies was the editor of the 3 part series.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1853009/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_cl_sm
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On 09/04/2024 at 17:14, Colman said:
And you’re happy for the rest of the world to reciprocate?
Indeed!
*EDIT - (in reply to an earlier suggestion of the UK Government removing the exemption to allow International talent in select sectors to apply for UK jobs)
I am often quite surprised by some views and comments I read on threads such as this.
The dance sector in the UK hugely benefits from international talent and it is a huge compliment that we still (for now) attract such excellence.
When I go to the ROH and watch the Royal Ballet my experience is never diminished by seeing a dancer who doesn’t have a UK passport.
Similarly I am pleased to see that UK dancers hold positions at both prestigious European (again, for now) and international companies.
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I think it would indeed be nice if more students progressed into 6th Form/ Upper School.
I’ve been reading this thread with interest and was wondering why the standard of private non full-time training hasn’t been brought up (unless I’ve missed it).
An associate class by its very nature is simply an addition to students regular training.Of course it can vary greatly but, surely the quality of students regular training should be a better place to look/ address/ question/ gather data…
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Of course it is fair to measure who many students from associate schemes end up at that particular school.
However, I guess you could also look at how many associates go on to full time training more broadly.
The big schools associate schemes can be a great addition to students that only have syllabus classes during the week and introduce them to a different style of training that more closely aligns with the vocational structure.-
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‘All dancers have the right to a safe dance environment that is respectful, equitable and free from abuse.Yet, compared with sports, research on abuse in dance is scarce. Numerous allegations of neglect and emotional, sexual and physical abuse documented in the small body of existing research, as well as high-profile media stories and convictions in legal cases, indicate that the problem may be more widespread and deep-seated than we realise.’
High time to enhance dancer welfare: a call to action to improve safeguarding and abuse prevention in dance
Full research paper:
https://bmjopensem.bmj.com/content/10/2/e001811
https://bmjopensem.bmj.com/content/bmjosem/10/2/e001811.full.pdf
Related links:
Dance School Safeguarding Working Group
The Dance School Safeguarding Working Group is a collective voice promoting high standards of safeguarding in the Dance School sector in order to protect children and young adults
PERSONAL SAFETY FOR DANCE
For dance free from abuse, open, and supportive for all.
Protect Children in Dance
Providing education and resources to end exploitation through hypersexualization of children in adult costumes, choreography, and music.
https://www.danceawareness.com/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3_ZC18_5zuUcbU3oy0pLDdGHqG4LmVMJ1Q--PE38Y29bObWxaPS9esGJI_aem_AXFSk_rKHzmOUKQMiJRgnQlZiKJNh1h3FMUtiXdnVsSw2uHexsnyy32xgRnteGA6bQ4kaIAtZ_He4EOMDjxrUY3x
NEAMA
(Nonprofit Education and Advocacy for the Movement Arts)
https://neamacares.org/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1Woyg6Xs-DnTfdyR6gZonMmeHXDW9LYLqfNoMWYBUNt53NCOOEqFj390Y_aem_AXFcHntOpFNcdbBSqIWLeEBwHFFQzSdkmvCgQ5re31Xf9Tc90-GYL750MCZkT8dzIseXTdACEJUf71CkrH75SvoZ
Whistle while you work.
Do you think the Dance community has done enough to address abuse and harassment?
Disrupting Harm in Dance
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This previous thread has some good discussion.
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Has the young dancer been ‘prescribed’ a back brace?
Instinctively I’d say contact a physiotherapist who understands the needs of dance training or high level sports and follow their lead.
Then if medically cleared to do so, engage a strength & conditioning coach, again ideally who understands the demands of dance training, to address any specific strength deficits.
These forums are great for discussion and an exchange of ideas but for something this important I would say in person dialogue with trained professionals would be necessary.-
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On 26/03/2024 at 10:57, Anita said:
Hello,
I am in interested in purchasing the full dvd set.
thank you
Nina
brixtonballet@hotmail.com
I’m sorry I missed your message.
i’d be happy to sell as a set.
I’ll pvt message.
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I understand that real term pay has been decreasing at Tring over the years. Their low, compared to similar schools, pay has not kept up with inflation so they’ve slowly been receiving a pay ‘cut’ and the teachers pension is the only financial reason some staff have remained.
See attached post:
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It finally happened…
I had a 10 year old attend one of my classes asking to do class in her backalast.
I am not her regular teacher so this caught me off guard.
I asked why she felt she wanted/ needed to and she said to help with her posture, yes she was a little round shouldered without it at times but no more than the ‘normal’ growing dancer.
Also this class has a uniform policy so was thinking can of worms if one students chooses to wear something different.I quickly said I would ensure my class included some pre-ballet exercises to help her ‘wake up’ her posture muscles in the warm up and would be extra mindful of her alignment and give her some feedback after.
I understand that from their marketing that
‘Recently, university research in the United States and Australia has scientifically confirmed that Backalast significantly reduces the difference in lumbosacral angle. The research concludes that the garment surpasses other clothing and devices in terms of joint angle replication and trunk proprioception.’
Can anyone point me to this research?
I am more than a little dubious of dancers wearing what even PBT describe as a ‘posture corrector BACK BRACE’
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On 15/03/2024 at 09:51, Jewel said:
Good on them.
There is another similar school where similar dubious practices have led to a huge percentage of staff leaving over the past few years.
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Article in The Stage.
https://www.thestage.co.uk/news/tring-park-drama-school-teachers-strike-in-dispute-over-pensions
(It’s behind a paywall but free to sign up for 3 articles a month.)
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Hi all,
just wondering if people have seen these.
‘With salaries that are already below other schools of similar calibre, the staff are being asked to take a 3.5% pay cut if they want to protect their pension scheme as it stands. This is unacceptable. The strain that this worrying situation will put on the mental health of staff is not only personally distressing, but publicly embarrassing for an institution that prides itself on pastoral care.
Back in 2021, staff and supporters fought against the unethical “fire and rehire” proposal offered by the school. We are disgusted to hear that this so-called solution has still not been explicitly ruled out by the management. The school must clarify their stance on this.
At the time of writing, the Instagram account @tringparkconcerns has 300 followers, and the growing outpouring of support is a testament to the loyalty & love we all hold for the teaching staff. Silence in the face of injustice is complicity with the oppressor. As a group, we refuse to be silent. ’
https://www.nasuwt.org.uk/article-listing/tring-park-school-teachers-strike-pension-sabotage.html
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These are still available if anyone is interested.
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2 hours ago, swanprincess said:
Could I have these please?
Sure.
I’ll private message to arrange.
Dancers NHS Clinic
in Doing Dance
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Oh I’m so sorry this is so disappointing to hear particularly as (quoting NIDSM),
‘As an NHS patient you have the legal right to choose the most appropriate referral path, regardless of geographic location.’
https://www.nidms.co.uk/nhs-dance-injury-clinics#:~:text=NHS Dance Injury clinic referral,be registered with a GP.
https://www.nhs.uk/nhs-services/hospitals/referrals-for-specialist-care/
I guess the more we spread the word the more familiar parents and in turn GPs will become.