Petit Jete

4 minutes ago, Kerfuffle said:

Fantastic career choice - did she have to do science a levels first or was she accepted with her diploma plus GCSEs? 

She had no A levels as she went to dance college at 16. Whilst she was working as a dancer she took an 'access to higher education in midwifery' course which was all done on line. Her GCSE results were definitely taken into consideration too by the University. 

1 minute ago, Kerfuffle said:

This is great to hear! What was the subject she studied? 

She's been a Midwife now for nearly 2 years and is loving every minute 💗

5 minutes ago, Peanut68 said:

Not sure what your comment is meant to mean - could you please elaborate Petit Jete 

Thanks 

Sorry, I'm not great with the technology and posting! 

3 minutes ago, Petit Jete said:

Funding - I have no idea if this is helpful or not. 

Sorry! That is meant to say that I have no idea if this post is helpful or not! My daughter graduated with a Level 6 Trinity College Diploma after 3 years on a full DADA Award. She performed and worked professionally as a dancer for 8 years and then applied to University to do a BA course and needed full funding. This she got easily through student finance, it was no hassle whatsoever & very straight forward. You can most definitely access student finance if you have already had a DADA award. Hope this is helpful.  

Funding - I have no idea if this is helpful or not. 

Pose turns are first introduced in Grade 6 in ISTD so your teacher is being ridiculously ambitious I think!! 

9 hours ago, Motomum said:

No it isn’t, that’s why Mark Annear head of Associates is on the finals audition panel, they identify who they want for MAs pretty much from the finals, and the Prelim videos. Mark Annear is also present on the panel for Prelim selection. 

All the children in my child’s Y7 MA’s happened to be finalists, previous JAs and also on Wait List. 
 

Im not saying that will always be the case, but IME it often is. There are always some children who come in from other associates , but usually via the finals.

My daughter was a JA and was never invited to finals but was given a MA place and then a SA place too. 7 years of really happy times and the best of both worlds for us. 

On 17/02/2021 at 08:47, 2dancersmum said:

I would urge extreme caution in the assumption that you are able to obtain student finance for a degree at university after obtaining a level 6 Trinity diploma. It is a question frequently asked at open days - asked by my husband in fact and heard by myself in later years when I took another student to auditions and the answer from various colleges was always 'no'.  The eligibility criteria for student finance states that it is only for a first higher education qualification (level 6 is already a higher education qualification) and further says :

If you’ve studied before

You’ll usually only get student finance if you’re doing your first higher education qualification - even if your previous course was self-funded. You may still be eligible for limited funding in certain circumstances and for some courses. (copied and pasted)

When my husband queried with student finance at the time my DD was applying at 15 for entrance to vocational schools, he was told quite differently to what cotes du rhone was told. It was explained to him that for every university course there is a top up element between loan and course fee that is paid by the government, easily done for universities as we all pay taxes and they all receive some government funding. Vocational colleges as private institutions do not receive government funding and yet we have all paid the education component in our taxes - hence why the government gives the 'top up money' to students through the DADA scheme.

 

I am not saying that you would definitely not get student funding if you aleady have a DADA. I know of quite a few students who have just done that and only one who had to appeal with the universities help to get the student loan. I just think it is a grey area where guidance and reality contradict each other - quite possibly down to the continued general misunderstanding of the level of the diploma but I do remember how the same grey are occurred with housing benefits for dilpoma students some years ago - they used to get them as no student loan until the authorities tightened their belts and enforced the 'only for those in further education and not studying for a higher education qualification' rule.

 

So please do go into the process with eyes wide open.

Agree dancersmum. My daughter has a Level 6 Trinity College Diploma in Professional Dance and had a Dada, she graduated in 2012. She is about to graduate again and become a Midwife, she has had a full student loan to do so. However, it was made clear that she was only able to access the student loan system because her course was an NHS related degree. When you apply for a student loan on line, the question 'have you ever had a Dada?' comes up quite quickly in the application process, or at least it did when she applied. You have already had access to Government funding if you have had a Dada for three years. 

YES Glowlight! I am still here! 

Remember me? Poppy's Mum from NBT and NBS?? xx

5 hours ago, drdance said:

It’s an imperial ballet step and is like a forward galop ending in a fondu derrière. In my opinion it’s a hideous step and making them look good is very hard. The dancer has to have straight, turned out legs on the first ‘galop’ phase, and then bent, also turned out legs in the second phase which looks more like a curtesy position. From this position the back leg moves through a petit developpé devant on the “hop” preceding the next galop. All while keeping the body lifted and pulled up (tricky bearing in mind the rhythm and the fondu moment) and the step often looks heavy when it should have a light, lilting quality. 
 

good luck!

Oh!

My Imperial Ballet Grade 1 girls look lovely doing this step and we always enjoy the challenge of making it look neat and tidy. It helps with rhythm and counting too .....a1&2, a1&2. I certainly wouldn't call it a hideous step!! 

Isabella, we always start off learning it 'sideways'. Face your partner. Learn the rhythm first...a1&2. a1&2. Then move, hop gallop change spring.....(landing in petit jete derriere position) try and concentrate on a good landing position. Your daughter should understand this or if in doubt ask her teacher. Good luck. 

My friend's daughter did a lyrical Modern and was awarded a full MDS, so I would say to go with your most musical performance! 

Pas de Quatre thanks for that information, I had no idea about that scheme so will definitely look into it once my DBS runs out in a couple of years. Thank you.

On 03/07/2019 at 19:15, Clarkd3 said:

Hello, I’m looking for some advice re DBS. My DD will be in her third year of dance training come September but this year has gained her DDE’s in modern and tap. She lives away from home and already has began to pick up teaching work at different dance schools.

She had just got a volunteer DBS as a licensed chaperone for her home address but I gather this won’t cover her for her intermittent dance teacher work.

Any advice on how she can get a suitable DBS as she doesn’t belong to a particular dance school and is still a dance student at present. 

Ps her teachers didn’t seem to know either! 

She needs an enhanced DBS check. If her qualifications are ISTD then here is the link.They are very helpful and organised. 

 https://www.ddc.uk.net/help-advice/types/registered-bodies/

Just from our experience applying to start in 2018.

My daughter had a Trinity College Level 6 Diploma and had been on a DADA. It was just lucky she wanted her student loan for an NHS related course otherwise she definitely would not have got one. Her DADA ended in 2012 and she had danced professionally the whole time between then and applying for a student loan in 2018. The question 'have you ever had a Dance and Drama Award' comes up very early on in the application for a student loan. A Trinity College Level 6 Diploma is most definitely classed as degree level even though you have to 'top up' for a year to make it a BA Hons in Professional Practice.

Next year may be different and it is indeed a minefield! 

It's pretty clearly laid out below:

How to get funding for a second degree in the UK

If you are thinking about going back to university to get a second degree, you need to think about how you are going to fund it. Students who have already been to university and got a degree, whether it was recently or years ago, are not entitled to a loan from Student Finance (with the exception of Nursing and some Healthcare degrees). This applies whether you had a loan previously or not, which means you are going to have to find another way to fund it and at £9,250 a year for the average tuition fees, plus expenses, it is not cheap.

https://www.gov.uk/what-different-qualification-levels-mean/list-of-qualification-levels

12 hours ago, cotes du rhone ! said:

To clarify...

so a Dd/Ds who has had a DaDa for 3 years and obtained a Trinity Diploma in Professional Dance can get a loan to study a Maths degree at a University if they want to ? 

Is that correct ? 

No they can't unfortunately cotes du rhone. A Trinity College Diploma is a Level 6 and that is classed as Higher Education so you have had your funding already if you have had a DaDa for 3 years and completed the course. You can only get a Student Loan for an NHS related degree, now that the NHS bursaries have been scrapped. 

York Dance Scholars is a very happy place. The teaching faculty are fantastic and the added contemporary and jazz classes are outstanding. It's a great all round programme. 

1 hour ago, balletbean said:

Thank you.  Very interesting. 

 

I would guess a pupil that that has gained a Diploma level 6 with a DaDa could be eligible for funding all thanks to the small paragraph at the bottom. Especially if special consideration is given for a dancer that’s had to change their career path on medical grounds. 

If you leave the course early under medical grounds and do not attain your level 6 Diploma then yes, you may get funding. If however you complete the course and DO get your level 6 Diploma then you have been deemed to already have a 'higher education' qualification and therefore no SFE funding is available for a second degree or another higher educational qualification (unless healthcare). Having said all that it probably could depend on the individuals personal circumstances. It's a minefield really and you won't actually know for sure until you have started the ball rolling and actually applied for Student Finance........everyone tells you a different story if you phone SFE!!  I am just quoting on our own personal circumstance. 

My daughter was a JA that never got White Lodge finals but she got WL Summer School, Mids and SA's too! 

27 minutes ago, Anna C said:

See I understood it as you could get a loan from SFE to “top up” your Level 6 Diploma to a BA (Hons).  Is this not still the case?

 

The other thing to remember about SFE loans for Degrees is that they are for the duration of the course plus one year (a “gift year”) thereby allowing you (in theory) to restart your course or a different degree after one year.

Yes, you can still top up a Diploma to a BA Honours in Professional Practice (think you have to pay for it yourself but not sure on that) However, if you want to study for another Degree subject for 3 years you can't get finance from SFE. 

I might add that this was a new ruling for entry to University in 2018. 

If your child comes out with a Trinity College Level 6 Diploma and you have had a DADA then they can't access any Student Loan to go to University in the future UNLESS they are applying to study a NHS related course ie Doctor, Nurse, Midwife etc.

A Trinity College Level 6 Diploma is class as Higher Education and you can only get funding once. If you have had a DADA then that is your funding!! 

York Dance Scholars is a wonderful Summer School. 

I know! Thankfully DD doesn't know today is the day but I do!

Just as well she doesn't then hoglett  

I feel quite sad I told my DD we would hear today, everyone else at her school seems to know.I said it must be a NO but to have to go through another weekend of waiting feels awful. Not sure why they said it would be today if that was not the case

How unforgivable that they should say that ALL applicants (WL) would hear by Friday 10th of March. If they are not going to stick by it then they should not say it!!

I am pretty sure that they no longer put Uni students in with NBS students at Medlock House even if it means an empty room in a flat.

The free Metro bus into town is still a plus as is the train station at Oxford Road and indeed Piccadilly.