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Wow reading this old thread, well not that old unfortunately as only last year, has astounded me. I love how "mums" are now judging how vocational school choose their students.

How absolutely ridiculous. The top vocational schools around the world and top ballet competitions pick the best kids who "have it all"  including length of neck, feet, flexibility, back, proportions, face...it's not just how skinny a kid is, if only. And if a skinny kid is chosen over another, stop just looking at the fact the kid is skinny but maybe look at other areas the other dancer didn't have, such as neck length etc etc etc. It's about the whole package and there are very few that have it all. Some are let into vocational schools (mostly to fund the scholarship kids who do have it all) hoping to improve on weaknesses, but they wont get contracts at the end of the day if their weaknesses aren't improved..

I really hate this banging on about skinny dancers, it's as appalling as fat bashing. Ballet looks for a look and very, very few have it all.

It would appear that this programme is now called European School of Ballet https://movartproductions.com/european-school-of-ballet/ and is definitely quite distinct from the Dutch National Ballet Academy now.

Does anyone have any pros or cons for this now Full-Time School? 

Is it true that prior there was a lot of disharmony due to Internationals being able to dance more than the BA students from Holland, due to schooling requirements?

And so this split occurred ??

Or was there more to it ??

I would welcome all comments thank you as I have a child who has been accepted to the new European School of Ballet and I would appreciate all views.

Thank you.

You can watch at this link. The finalists were all incredible and very well deserved their spots in the finals. Finals start at 30 mins as prior is a lead up and then it's the finals in its entirety including the intermission 2 acts and then results. https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/080207-008-A/final-of-the-46th-prix-de-lausanne/

Daisybell a huge well done to your daughter!!! What a success she is and at such a young age!!

How exciting for her to be doing what she loves and in London - absolutely fabulous!!!!!

A real role model for upcoming stars in their eyes ballet girls I'd say.

Sorry to drag up a very old post but thought it best to say that...Claudia Dean did not attend Tanya Pearson's in Australia but she did attend Prudence Bowen Atelier for a year or so before she won her scholarship to RBS.

I suppose they must take this into account - it's the only explanation for why a year 10 boy can make it to finals over a 6.2 boy (both RBS) - despite all the performance skill in the world, one is 3 years ahead of the other in terms of technical accomplishment.

Well that's just ballet for you frankly.

It's subjective and you take the good with the bad or vice versa and keep on working hard.

I'd say the judges have seen something rather wonderful in the year 10 lad, best of luck to him and I'm sure the 6.2 lad will get some great feedback from his teachers on their thoughts. Good luck to all finalists.

I believe there is always something to learn from others that are at a high level of what they do. Perhaps it's psychological, perhaps it's work ethic, perhaps... well anything. But ALL at a high level have things to share that all can learn from and think about to better what they do themselves.

Not sure which is correct, but the youtube comment actually says this video of Ellen Price is from 1903 not 1930s. So potentially 110 years ago...

I am sure top RBS Graduates like Yasmine Naghdi, Francesca Hayward, Anne-Rose Sullivan (now all at RB) - just to name a few as I remember each of them winning 1st Prize at YBDY - would have gone to PdL but when offered an RB contract well before the start of PdL there is no need for these dancers to participate. Why would they participate if they are already at a top school and in a position of being seen by RB/BRB/ENB Directors?

Of course there is no need to participate, just wasted expense.

I was replying as to the RBS students that I knew of, who HAD previously competed.

 

 

Do RBS not enter anyone? I can't remember ever seeing them there but perhaps they feel there's no need as the prizes are no better than what's already available to them ;-) and of course they get a lot of exposure at YBDY

Yes, but not for some time. Delia Mathews (ex NZ'er, then joined RBS) whilst at RBS she was a scholarship winner at PdL and YBDY http://www.brb.org.uk/masque/index.htm?act=Person&urn=25197

I'm sure that same year (2007) RBS had a male dancer James Hay, who also won a PdL scholarship.

Can't remember anyone since these two - who actually attended RBS prior to going to PdL.

Oh yes, these days you can get anything over the internet

I think I am getting Anjuli or your bunny's cold since I have a sore throat! Can you get one over the internet?

I think that what this thread shows without a shadow of a doubt it that nobody fits a set-mold. You need to trust your teacher's wisdom whether they want your dd en pointe early or not.

If early really question why, same for late. But go with what your teacher thinks.

Yes information is power, but at the end of the day if you don't trust the teacher's judgement than your dd shouldn't be at that school.