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PE A’level is an acceptable alternative for Biology for a physio degree.  Sports Science graduates end up having to undertake a BSc or masters in Physiotherapy to achieve a career in injury prevention and treatment. 
 

However you can obtain a second student loan for allied health courses so a dance degree followed by a physio degree is an option - although a 6 year long one!
 

https://www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/explore-roles/allied-health-professionals/roles-allied-health-professions/physiotherapist/entry-requirements-and-training-physiotherapist

Most do have access - it’s just shared within the household and therefore has time limitations. I was just replying to the post questioning why state schools don’t do live lessons.

 Unfortunately as much as we would like to have all the students in school who need the extra support we can’t under the current guidelines - there’s just not enough space!
Let’s hope all can return to school in September.

5 hours ago, Pas de Quatre said:

It is so odd that when every dance teacher I know has managed to set up on line teaching and state schools can't. I thought my parents were being overly grateful in their thanks to me for doing it, now I understand why!

For children in households with access to their own iPad/laptop throughout the school day I agree this would be ideal.  This would only be a very small minority at many schools so zoom/live lessons would not be feasible as the students just can’t access them.  Setting work online allows individual households to share the device time throughout the day. I have a childin my class with 3 siblings and their mum’s mobile phone is their only device with internet access. Her work is always submitted in the early evening. I am supplying printed work to many on a weekly basis too and also currently working full time in school with a keyworker group.
Zooming to a dance class isn’t really comparable. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ONKBbvwWNXw

Hope the link works!

Might be of interest to those who want to keep dancing at university, Or for those who are having to change direction for any reason. 

The ballet section is at the start. 

A thank you from me too. 12 years ago, on the old forum, you sent me a lovely informative pm.  Helped to guide an unknowing parent through the minefield of auditions

Might not be what your dd is after but does the university have a ballet society?  Dd’s offer advanced, intermediate and beginners classes.  Lots of other opportunities too and a great place to meet students on other courses. 

Edited to add congratulations to your dd for gaining her place. 

Our village post office relocated recently and now only opens 9-12 Monday to Friday. So for anyone who works outside the village it’s impossible to pick up a parcel unless a kindly neighbour will pop down and pick it up. 

36 minutes ago, Legseleven said:

That is so true, Karen. As you say, children of whatever age often desperately don’t want their parents to intervene and state the facts - but unless someone does so, how will matters ever change? 

Indeed. Do you upset the apple cart whilst your offspring are studying there and perhaps make your dd/ds  life even more difficult. Or once they have left? But then they need a reference for further study.  Therefore  scuppering their future plans. Or a few years later?? It’s so hard. 

I think we need a thread on: “life after vocational school” to celebrate all the strong, determined young people who have battled through mental health issues or injuries and are no longer pursuing their dream as a professional dancer.  The insular environment they experience when training is so different to life outside the ballet bubble.  Out here they can thrive and be themselves without all the constant scrutiny and pressure of perfection. 

After training hard for 3 years and overcoming her own problems, dd gained a first, this along with her GCSE results (so, so important they keep going academically in year 11 - even when they know they have gained a vocational place) meant she was accepted at a regular uni onto a degree - unrelated to dance. She’s now living life to the full! Enjoying the opportunities in the university dance clubs without any pressure. 

Our young adults are all fab and have so much potential. Whatever they are currently going through remember there is light at the end of the tunnel.

x

“What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger” would perhaps be an apt phrase. Dd doesn’t regret going to vocational school at 16 and the quality of teaching could not be faulted. However, as others have said, it is the emotional put downs by those who should know better that was the problem. Those who complained were ridiculed. Those injured or ill told they had no resilience.

The mental health of our youngsters is so important and is sometimes just ignored or overlooked.  I’m so glad this thread has appeared - this information needs to be in the public domain. 

Not a gift-but for those that send Christmas cards- the RNLI have a lovely card this year. Dancers at the barre with yellow RNLI wellies on. Had to buy a few packs when I saw them. 

https://goo.gl/images/1Mt14a

Dd just completed her degree and received the transcript on the same day as her degree classification. It was issued by the university rather than the ballet school. However, may be different for other schools. I'd ring the university -I'm sure they'll be able to help

It should be dd's home address that is taken into account for funding, not their term time place of residence.

Also highly recommend dancewell in Bristol. Only place that has ever fitted dd's feet correctly, after years of being sold ill fitting shoes from the obvious shops up and down the country!

Pictures, not sure if your dd is planning to study physio straight after completing A'levels or not. If she's wanting to find a dance/MT job first and then go to uni later it's worth noting that they require academic study to have been undertaken within the last 2 or 3 years before starting the degree.

Dramascientist - hope you are all OK.  

Lots of us have had "moments" which have made us question whether we should allow our dc to go and fend for themselves at such a young age.  

Think we should all order one of these for them: www.notonthehighstreet.com/leelu/product/little-bag-of-happiness

Would be fab if they worked and cured all. 

The link hasn't worked!! Not sure how to do that!

Pas de chat, I have to completely agree. The directors and owners of OPES would still welcome feedback even after a year.

 I emailed straight after dd arrived home - you both assumed I hadn't.  It would not be acceptable to post on here without having done so!

 I can't think of one student this year that isn't returning for one, two or three weeks next year!  

 

 

 

 I agree - students vote with their feet - if they enjoy it they return, if not they find an alternative. 

However based on the knowledge all our children are very different there will be one or two children that the school did not suit for various reasons.  That is absolutely fine and I do hope they find a school that suits them better.

 

So, if your child was at a regular school and their life was being made "uncomfortable" by others.  Would you tell your child that the school: "did not suit them, let's find a school that suits you better"? 

Whilst this site has been and is still invaluable to us as a family and feedback has been very helpful in our dancing experiences I question whether comments of 'supposedly house parents' are appropriate to post. 

What word would you suggest then for a person who does not carry out their job to the standard expected? 

If my original comment is not appropriate then please can a moderator remove it?

The teaching at OPES was second to none - DD really enjoyed this.  I am not going into any more detail about the negative aspects

I wouldn't have commented if I had not read Lemongirl's post and saw that others had a similar experience.  I have been a member of this site and its predecessor for over 8 years - making many positive comments - I think we should feel free to post our experiences and make this a balanced forum. 

My dd did a week at OPES last year but it wasn't a good experience for her. The standard was incredibly high, nothing wrong with that per se, but there did seem to be a lot of vocational or soon to be vocational students there and I think she was a bit intimidated. The girls in her dorm weren't particularly friendly either.

 

Sorry to put a dampener on a positive thread.

My DD must have been there the same week  The behaviour of a small number of students was unacceptable and not dealt with appropriately by those who were supposedly house parents.  DD has attended loads of residentials over the years and this is the only one she said she would never do again..

From my experience it is purely financial reasons that some teachers discourage dance outside of their own dance school.  DD attended a local dance school and non of her achievements were ever mentioned or publicized, until after she left for vocational school at 16!  Although they supported her - it was made clear they did not want her to mention associate schemes, holidays schools or the fact that she attended another dance school to others. They had the monopoly on dance in the area anyway and I really don't think they would of lost students - as only those really wanting to take their dancing further would bother to drive the 1 1/2 hour round trip to the local city where their nearest competition was located.   They would have lost money though - with children deciding to take part in EYB, holiday schools etc rather than the dance schools own productions (where all costumes had to be bought through the school and extra lessons paid for!).  It's a shame that some schools don't encourage their students to experience ballet outside of their own "dance school bubble".   

The teacher at dd's other school was absolutely fantastic - extremely encouraging and taking pride in all of her student's achievements.

It surprises me again and again the number of people who go into the whole audition process blinkered.  Yes our dd/ds are all fab and talented - there's just far too many of them for the number of places available.  It is our job as parents to keep our children grounded - they need to know at the outset that most auditioning won't get in!

Has anyone had any experience of Northern Ballet Academy (Leeds) Easter and Int Summer School?

Although a couple of years ago now dd attended their Easter course for a few years.  Would definitely recommend.  Also at the time if they were already at vocational school or attending an associate scheme - they didn't have to audition!

Thanks for the review.  Off to see it next weekend - can't wait!

Bought this two years ago, but only worn on a few occasions. 

It appears to look like style 9501, except rather than being "pinched" at the bust and back it is ruched. 

It's ciel (blue) in colour.

£18 including postage within the UK.

I would sit down and work out your finances before applying.  How much do you currently spend on your dd's dancing in terms of travel and lessons?  If you haven't calculated this before, you might be surprised at how much it all adds up.  Read the student finance website/leaflets to see how much you would need to contribute on top of this for your dd to be able to attend.   Could you find this amount for the next 3 years? Is your dd happy to have a huge student loan?  It's then up to you whether your dd applies - either knowing she will be able to go if offered a place or not.

It's so tough.  At least you have all the financial facts up front and can make an informed decision.  When dd auditioned they published the new Dada scale half way through the audition process  

Interesting to read.  DD opted not to take GCSE art even though she is very artistic purely because of the sheer amount of course work that needs to be completed.  Also she really didn't "warm" to her dance teacher at school, so decided not to opt for that one either.  We were lucky and never had any problems with time off school for auditions etc.  Although they did make her attend an interview for the local sixth form college even though she already had a dance place for sixth form - never quite understood that one!