Bluebird Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 (edited) Does anyone know roughly what the finishing time for this is? This will obviously depend on the time your performance starts. The running time is supposed to be two and a quarter hours but it usually overruns by a few minutes. Edited to say that I didn't realise that there was another page to this topic and that the question had already been answered! Edited April 27, 2012 by Bluebird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul N Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Thanks, Paul, it was. How did you manage to find it? Couldn't find it with Google at first (using the wrong search terms?). But I have that page archived and so got the forum ID no (16) and thread no (86) from that, and used those in the web address to get to it online. Then I found that Google can find it after all: http://www.google.co...ype=&as_rights= It can be quite interesting to try typing random numbers in the old ballet.co forum addresses (I obviously don't have enough to do!), and seeing what you get. For example, if you go to that "Fille - watching the videos" page, change the 86 to 72 at the end of the web address, and see what you get - ok, well that's not so random I admit. (I particularly like post 48.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted April 27, 2012 Author Share Posted April 27, 2012 Aha! I was doing word sequence searches in Google from my Word copy, but didn't get anywhere. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillm Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I'm now a rare visitor to Covent Garden, living as I do in the sticks, so trips to see the RB are treasured all the more. Last night's Nunez/Acosta Fille was an absolute joy. I do normally prefer a bit of doom, death and depression but after that performance I may have to reconsider the choice of Mayerling as my desert island ballet. I have no idea if it is possible for the cast to have such fun when they are working so hard but the leads looked like they were having an absolute ball - as was the audience. Brilliant stuff. No idea whether there was anything there to upset Mr Crisp ....how fortunate I am to be a simple viewer. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Welcome to BalletcoForum, Gill. So glad to see you post up, and so glad that the infectious joy of Fille has got to you, too. No matter what the weather, or what is going on in life, whenever I come out of seeing a performance of it I'm smiling and feeling joyful. A real tonic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I saw "Stomp" again this afternoon, and couldn't help thinking that both "Stomp" and "Fille" should be prescribed on the NHS. :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anneliese Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Had a wonderful afternoon. Although Cervera was a tiny bit wobbly in his first solo, and there was one fluffed oboe bar, I was verging on tears of joy throughout (apart from when I realised the downside of being on the side of the stalls circle when I tried to move my head the other way lol when it was tears of pain). Him Indoors said it was absolutely the best ballet experience he'd had and just RAVED about Morera. We were sitting so close to the stage we caught every nuance - although I prefer Collier's final variation in the harvest PDD (just something not quite as pretty there) she was fabulous throughout - and I caught some lovely business with the money and then again with the wine in Act II. Even pony choreography was included (anyone else see the pas de cheval he did?)... and the band were wonderful, I caught details of orchestration that I never had before. Not 100% convinced by Alain (don't really think I ever am...) but no 1 son thought he was the star of the show and wants a red umbrella. Gary Avis was maybe OTT as the notary but I didn't care - he's brilliant whatever he does - and Alastair Marriott is one of THE BEST drag acts in ballet (or any other art form). Maybe again he overplayed a little, but what I love about him is (a) he's a totally convincing woman and ( no matter how much he plays to the gallery, his relationship with Lise is completely genuine. Another point which was very clear in this instantiation was Lise's very real worry when Simone locks her in her room - she was panic-stricken. Perhaps Morera's deranged flexed foot variation was a little TOO deranged; but when all's said and done there's only one Lesley Collier, isn't there? And she DID look at the ribbon while she danced with it. Props admirably handled, hens stole the show; singing at the end was underwhelming, need to get Mary King in there to coach the corps I think, but this is me being ultra picky. I'm so glad I was there, and it's not a performance I'll forget in a hurry. What's not to love? I might be the only person in the world who is moved to tears by the music but I don't care, I would be completely happy if Fille was my only DVD! Just one little thing - anyone else think Laura Morera is Bettany Hughes' long-lost twin??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margaret Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Yes it was a lovely afternoon and I agree about Laura Morera, such a wonderful performance. Thanks too to Dave Morgan for those pictures - I took my grand-daughter to this performance and it was great to look at his pictures today and share our outing with the rest of the family. Margaret 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyTaylor Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I can only describe Marianela and Carlos as completely joyous throughout- and even better as they looked so happy all the way through. It was as near perfect as I could imagine. I wish I could book for every performance of this ballet, (I'd probably be in the divorce courts with my husband and my cats if I did), but even so, I still have the joy of 2 more performances to come - Brian Maloney / Yuhui Choe and Steven McRae/ Roberta Marquez. Who cares about the weather, the sun has just come out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted April 29, 2012 Author Share Posted April 29, 2012 True, it is a very good antidote to this foul weather (and don't forget the live cinema relay next month, for those of you who can't get to any of the performances). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowan Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) "Joyous” would be my word too to describe my first “Fille” on Saturday evening. It was a complete delight from beginning to end. I afterwards thought that this would be a perfect first ballet for lots of people; the story, acting and mime were all so clear. I hadn’t managed to persuade any of my ballet-hating family to accompany me but when I later described it, the reaction was, “If I’d known it was going to be like that, I would have gone!” Thank you, Alison, for your comments on the different productions on the old forum - very interesting. However, for something that seems so rooted in British traditions I find it odd that the original French setting and title is still kept. Edited April 30, 2012 by rowan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 I afterwards thought that this would be a perfect first ballet for lots of people; the story, acting and mime were all so clear. I hadn’t managed to persuade any of my ballet-hating family to accompany me but when I later described it, the reaction was, “If I’d known it was going to be like that, I would have gone!” I keep trying to convince people of that, too ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 We are for ever grateful to my father who decided, in 1970, that my fiance and his mother should come with us to see Fille. It was David Blair and Merle Park with Lesley Edwards as Thomas and, perhaps, David Morse as Alain. As a direct result, my now husband became a ballet fan. No better recommendation than that! Memories of Fille also go back to a performance in a 'big top' in Battersea Park when Wendy Ellis and Wayne Eagling were dancing Lise and Colas. As the Act One storm broke on stage, the heavens opened outside, rain pelted on the tent roof and thunder clapped along with the orchestra. An amazing experience. Please can anyone remember who might have played Widow Simone in 1970? I don't think that it was Stanley Holden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane S Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I saw a Park/Blair/Morse performance, with Petrus Bosman as Simone - it was in January 1971 but might have been in the same run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mallinson Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Clement Crisp complained (amongst much else) about the thunder in the storm scene. I too thought there was much more of it, not especially loud but more prolonged, in the performance on Saturday evening. I found it intrusive and that it disturbed the music. The 1981 recording sounds as if the storm effects were produced with a thunder sheet whereas now they sound more 'real'. Anyone else notice this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 Clement Crisp ... and others. I think I've seen at least 3 complaints in reviews now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 It didn't bother me. :-) Does anyone know if there are (or will be) any photos of last night's cast with Yuhui Choe as Lise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GailR Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Don't know about photos but she was exquisite - and it was so good to see Brian Maloney in the spotlight. He was a charming lad next door and the spark between them was great. His technique and partnering were solid and he made a lovely replacement for the absent one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Brian and Yuhui did one performance of Fille two or three years ago on an Easter Monday; I didn't go away that weekend so that I could see them. They were wonderful even in that first performance and really were a lovely partnership. Soon thereafter Brian got his second very bad injury in three years, which unfortunately seems to have scuppered his progression through the ranks thus far. I hope he stays injury-free so that he can finally get the promotion he merits; I'm sure he would have been a First Soloist a good while ago if it hadn't been for his two lengthy absences from the stage. Kevin O'Hare, please take note!! I hope that we will see more of him and Yuhui (preferably together) next season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim b Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 regarding post 16 from chinafish, one of my first performances of Fille was almost original cast - David Blair chose it as his last dancing performance in about 1973 - Stanley Holden returned to dance la Veuve & the delightful (ever missed by by me) Merle Park sparkled as Lise truly golden memories! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regattah Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Having grown up on repeated viewings of an old, slightly worn out video of Fille, I would really love to be able to see it.. I obviously know why they put only show ballet in cinemas once in a blue moon, mid-week, but I still want to complain about it! The nearest Odeon showing it is a good 1.5 hours away and whilst I can justify a late night on a school night, I can't do the same for my youngest daughter! And with my oldest being away at school, only school holidays and the odd weekend would do for her. I could go on my own or with my husband but I'd feel too guilty. Sorry for the moan! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxDaveM Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Does anyone know if there are (or will be) any photos of last night's cast with Yuhui Choe as Lise? There was a House photographer in for the Yuhui/Brian performance this evening - though I don't know when/where any photos may emerge. They may just be for internal use - or may appear in a programme or on the website the next time the production is in rep. Edited May 9, 2012 by zxDaveM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Thanks Dave. If anyone finds them, could you post a link? Yuhui's one of my favourite dancers. :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Having grown up on repeated viewings of an old, slightly worn out video of Fille, I would really love to be able to see it.. I obviously know why they put only show ballet in cinemas once in a blue moon, mid-week, but I still want to complain about it! The nearest Odeon showing it is a good 1.5 hours away and whilst I can justify a late night on a school night, I can't do the same for my youngest daughter! And with my oldest being away at school, only school holidays and the odd weekend would do for her. I could go on my own or with my husband but I'd feel too guilty. Sorry for the moan! I agree Regattah! I wish they'd do these broadcasts on a Saturday evening or Sunday afternoon. My dd dances 5 days a week and would be too late in bed on a Thursday. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 Unfortunately, since the RB rarely does Sunday matinees, and there seems to be a great keenness to ensure that the transmissions are live rather than recorded, I don't think you'll get your way. And I really can't see cinemas being prepared to sacrifice one screen for a few hours (bearing in mind that you need to clear plenty of time around the performance, rather than running another film which ends 20 miutes beforehand, so it's not a terribly cost-effective option) on their best night of the week just to screen ballet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 No, I think you're right. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regattah Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Absolutely, Alison - that's why I said I knew WHY they only put them mid-week. £££!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangorballetboy Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Unfortunately, since the RB rarely does Sunday matinees, and there seems to be a great keenness to ensure that the transmissions are live rather than recorded, I don't think you'll get your way. And I really can't see cinemas being prepared to sacrifice one screen for a few hours (bearing in mind that you need to clear plenty of time around the performance, rather than running another film which ends 20 miutes beforehand, so it's not a terribly cost-effective option) on their best night of the week just to screen ballet. But the Met cinecasts are always Saturday evenings in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 Yes, and look how much they cost. They're an extra £10 on top of the RB ones. That probably makes all the difference. And anyway, it's "like it or lump it" where the Met are concerned, isn't it? Anyone want to discuss Fille on this thread? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Williams Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 My friend from Ireland, who was so disappointed when Polunin's resignation meant that she wasn't going to see him in the 'Fille' she had booked for, saw Yohei and Maloney instead on Wednesday, and simply raved about Yohei (but was cooler about Maloney). We're going together next week to the Odeon in St. Martin's Lane to see the Marquez/McRea broadcast and I promised that I would print out any Balletco reviews or comments about the performance she saw, so please, those of you who saw Wednesday's performance, post something about it! Thank you in advance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 I think you mean Yuhui, Ann! Yohei left the company a couple of years ago ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annamk Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 There was a pleasure to be had in last night's performance of Fille that is sadly in danger of becoming notable by its absence on the RoH stage of late: namely a technically gifted young dancer delivering the choregraphic challenges of Colas with aplomb and insouciant ease. McRae and Marquez displayed an excitement and enthusiasm that lifted the whole company and filled the stage with joy. It was not all bravura and show : the quiet moments were expressed with tender affection and Roberta Marquez's naughty Lise embued McRae with a sense of warmth that he sometimes lacks. A worthy supporting cast with a notable Alain from Ondiviela. A pat on the back to McRae's make-up artist who toned down the over liberal use of eye shadow, presumably for the cameras, although I hope he keeps it that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Williams Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Of course I meant Yuhui, Alison - thank you for pointing this out, and apologies to Yuhui! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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