Piepie Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Hi, My dd is in a bit of indecision about what to do next year as she really wants to carry on with A-levels and dance. We didn't get in to Elmhurst, waiting to hear from Tring. She is now saying she's not sure she wants to audition at Central or Rambert as they don't offer any academics. Does anyone have any experience of doing academic study at either of these schools and how to go about it? I don't feel very positive about her Tring audition and I'm really trying to keep as many doors open for her as possible for as long as possible. Any thoughts would be welcome. Thanks, xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby Foo Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Don’t have experience of upper schools/ academics that you need, but London Russian Ballet School do both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piepie Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, valentina said: Don’t have experience of upper schools/ academics that you need, but London Russian Ballet School do both. Thanks for that, I've never even heard of Russian Ballet School! I'll have a look x o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harwel Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Also check out Moorland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peanut68 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) And Legat ballet at Beedales? Edited February 5, 2019 by Peanut68 Typo - prob still wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Peanut68 said: And Legat ballet at Beedales? Close! It’s Bedes. ☺️ Here’s a link: http://www.bedes.org/legat-school.aspx and Moorland: https://moorlandschool.co.uk/ballet/ballet-pathways/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afab Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Doesn't the Young Dancers Academy do it too? https://www.youngdancersacademy.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picturesinthefirelight Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Does she want purely ballet or Dance in general? Other schools that offer vocational and A level include Abbotts Bromley School & Hammond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piepie Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Thanks for replies, Bedes and Moorland are very far away, and probably too expensive (we get means tested out of any scholarships, but still can't afford them!). I don't think she would be interested in YDA, she has had some interactions with girls that have gone there and so I don't think she would be comfortable. I'm probably getting on for leaving it too late to apply to other places now anyway, maybe if we don't get Tring it's just the universe telling her to take another path for now! x o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing unicorn Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I would definitely try Hammond! Lovely school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiba123 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Kings International Ballet Academy offers fantastic vocational training for students aged 16 plus, and also offer a levels and a teaching qualification. Their next audition is on the 17th February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted February 6, 2019 Author Share Posted February 6, 2019 Kiba123, multiple posts on the same subject - in this case, promoting your school - are not permitted, therefore I have hidden two of your posts. Anna C on behalf of Balletcoforum Moderators 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutusrus Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Hi there, Does anyone have any experience of Upper School offers being made with deadlines for acceptance due before other audition results are through? If so, how did you deal with it? Any insights would be appreciated. Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loulabelle Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Yes. The year my DD auditioned we had to accept Tring and Central before having other results. We forfeited a deposit at Central in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutusrus Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 9 hours ago, Loulabelle said: Yes. The year my DD auditioned we had to accept Tring and Central before having other results. We forfeited a deposit at Central in the end. Thanks Loulabelle - I was hoping someone may have experience of asking them to wait and them saying “yes” but think I’m being far too optimistic 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peanut68 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Nice problem to have on the one hand.... multiple offers! But again the issue whereby those on limited income dare not risk losing big deposits & might feel awful pressure to accept/turn down in advance of all outcomes being known.... it plays into the hands of schools too in that those offering early in with acceptance deadline dates may just get first pickings.... I think all the schools should put their heads together & create an honour system whereby they all have similar dates/deadlines then a clearing system perhaps so people can choose based on best fit & informed decisions rather than maybe rushing & choosing based on finance.... more like Uni entry? I appreciate the schools/colleges are in many cases businesses too with cash flow projections etc but theses choices are so so massive & impactful on young people & families & really do shape futures.... Maybe this could be something addressed by government body that overseas DaDa’s for at least those schools ‘regulated’ under this funding scheme? Good luck to all...already feeling anxious for next year....😧 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifeafterballet Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Tutusrus said: Thanks Loulabelle - I was hoping someone may have experience of asking them to wait and them saying “yes” but think I’m being far too optimistic 🤣 My Dd was offered a place at Central prior to finals of Elmhurst, RBS and ENBS. We accepted her place, explained the situation and didn’t pay the deposit. It is worth asking. Good luck with the auditions xx Edited February 12, 2019 by cotes du rhone ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picturesinthefirelight Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I think the issue arises when you are applying to a mix of privately funded, Dada funded and student loan courses. Dada funded courses are not allowed to make offers of funding before a set date. I can't remember the exact date off the top of my head but think its the 31st March. Dd had an offer of a place with a scholarship from what was essentially a private school. The offer was made in January and we had 14 days to reply. At this point she had an offer with a Dada recall elsewhere but hadn't even done her other auditions at that point. We just had to turn that first place down and it all worked out OK as she was then offered another place with a scholarship and one with a Dada. At one college she was offered a college scholarship on the spot as long as we paid a deposit and a Dada recall (they said the deposit would be refunded if she got a Dada there. ) Or she could not pay the deposit and just attend the Dada recall. Thats what she decided to do in the end but was offered a Dada by her first choice elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi4ballet Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 If you do end up paying a deposit to hold a DaDa funded place and then decide not to take up the place, they are obliged to refund you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peanut68 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I think of not DaDa or MDS they can set own terms so read small print as expect some reserve right to keep deposits if place later declined.... I hear this is common place in the private school sector & that often parents will lay drposits for 2 or 3 schools in full knowledge that they will forfeit 2 of them but want to be in apposition to choose...I think it is a common long established method of making money by these schools!!! I think the deposits are often lodged before common entrance exam even sat!!! Bonkers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi4ballet Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 19 hours ago, Peanut68 said: I think of not DaDa or MDS they can set own terms so read small print as expect some reserve right to keep deposits if place later declined.... I hear this is common place in the private school sector & that often parents will lay drposits for 2 or 3 schools in full knowledge that they will forfeit 2 of them but want to be in apposition to choose...I think it is a common long established method of making money by these schools!!! I think the deposits are often lodged before common entrance exam even sat!!! Bonkers Certainly if it is a DaDa, under the terms of the scheme they are obliged to give a refund (technically I don't think they are supposed to even ask for one). In fact we received a refund of a deposit ourselves after paying to reserve a place for our dd, and then subsequently turning it down as she accepted a place elsewhere. We did have to ask for it though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 In order to keep this thread for general questions and answers about Upper Schools, I have moved several posts specific to this year’s audition results here: http://www.balletcoforum.com/topic/19420-good-luckaudition-results-2019/ Please discuss 2019 auditions and results in the above thread. Many thanks, Anna C on behalf of Balletcoforum Moderators 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picturesinthefirelight Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Good luck to everyone at Hammond funding recalls today. There is a photo onFacebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AlwaysBallet Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 On 05/02/2019 at 10:03, Piepie said: Hi, My dd is in a bit of indecision about what to do next year as she really wants to carry on with A-levels and dance. We didn't get in to Elmhurst, waiting to hear from Tring. She is now saying she's not sure she wants to audition at Central or Rambert as they don't offer any academics. Does anyone have any experience of doing academic study at either of these schools and how to go about it? I don't feel very positive about her Tring audition and I'm really trying to keep as many doors open for her as possible for as long as possible. Any thoughts would be welcome. Thanks, xx Hi, academics at Tring are amazing - extremely small classes with a great standard - they pride themselves on it. Dancers have gone on to become doctors, lawyers etc. They come out extremely confident with great social skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happymum Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Hi, is there a list/table describing upper schools (classical ballet, with a goal to join a ballet company, not teaching qualification) available on the forum? I tried to look for it but no luck. What I’d like to know is US offering Dada/MDS - Tring, Elmhurst, Royal, Hammond, ? US with students loan - Central, ENBS, Ballet West? US with bording facilities, incl meals - Elmhurst, Balet West, Hammond? US with A levels - Elmhurst, Tring, Hammond, ? My list probably isn’t correct, please correct it. I think that Northern Ballet or Rambert also have a classical ballet course but I’m not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balletbean Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Just now, Happymum said: Hi, is there a list/table describing upper schools (classical ballet, with a goal to join a ballet company, not teaching qualification) available on the forum? I tried to look for it but no luck. What I’d like to know is US offering Dada/MDS - Tring, Elmhurst, Royal, Hammond, ? US with students loan - Central, ENBS, Ballet West? US with bording facilities, incl meals - Elmhurst, Balet West, Hammond? US with A levels - Elmhurst, Tring, Hammond, ? My list probably isn’t correct, please correct it. I think that Northern Ballet or Rambert also have a classical ballet course but I’m not sure. Hi. Central offer A levels but up to the individual pupil as they apply directly to the nearby college. Not sure what happens when they move south of the river. Classes are taken in the evening so finding enough time and energy to balance the two can be a challenge. Especially if they go on tour with the school. Nothern Ballet School (NBS) pupils choose between Classical Focus and Jazz Focus for their 2nd and 3rd yr of Level 6 Diploma. All 1st yr pupils train in all genres. They also encourage all pupils to complete their examinations in RAD & ISTD up to and incl Adv2 in the respective genres. No A level options available. Accommodation is provided independently by UniteStudents ‘Halls’ about a 6min walk from the school. All self catering. Happy to answer any more questions about NBS if required. ☺️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picturesinthefirelight Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Hammond doesn't have boarding for Post 16 (except for a very tiny number of students who are allowed to stay in the new boarding house, often as helpers). It is also a Dance course rather than a ballet course (but then again I think Tring's is too.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picturesinthefirelight Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Kate Simmons should probably be on the list although they have no funding. Also the new King's one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverballet Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Also I would add RCS in Glasgow US with student loan / ENBS is DADA funding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afab Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 London Studio Centre has a classical stream and ex-students end up working in different ballet companies. It has funding through Student Finance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutusrus Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 On 12/02/2019 at 18:27, Peanut68 said: I think of not DaDa or MDS they can set own terms so read small print as expect some reserve right to keep deposits if place later declined.... I hear this is common place in the private school sector & that often parents will lay drposits for 2 or 3 schools in full knowledge that they will forfeit 2 of them but want to be in apposition to choose...I think it is a common long established method of making money by these schools!!! I think the deposits are often lodged before common entrance exam even sat!!! Bonkers Hi Peanut68 - quick question re your MDS deposit comment. So you know if this is accurate information - would be interested in understanding how one vocational school charging £155 for an MDS funding audition fits within the rules of the scheme. Apprexiate it’s a lower school query but fits with your response re deposits. Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthE Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 As it says at the beginning of the bit you have quoted, Peanut68's post was specifically about schools which are NOT offering DADA or MDS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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