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I would agree with the above comments.  You would think it was one of the most important days of the year for a school director.  

It is - at least for the auditionees, who have worked their guts out for years in order to be able to show what they can do.

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Rightly or wrongly, i guess the school director trusts the judgement of head of outreach enough to delegate the prelim adjudication to him and and another member of staff. I would expect he will be at the finals for both schools and the ultimate decisions will be with him.

within the audition itself, my dd had similar comments about not being watched but she also said that the two panelists marked half of the class each, so even when she was being watched, it was only by one of them. This could be common in all auditions, it is just she has never mentioned it before. Just shows how subjective it all is and the phrase 'if your face fits' springs to mind but then I am just an old cynic!

 

My dd never mentioned shapes or sizes, I thought they all looked beautiful my only observation was a range of heights, I didn't look at physiques.

 

Anyway by looks of it the lower school results are flying out so we may be put out of our misery sooner rather than later. Good luck to all

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Rightly or wrongly, i guess the school director trusts the judgement of head of outreach enough to delegate the prelim adjudication to him and and another member of staff. I would expect he will be at the finals for both schools and the ultimate decisions will be with him.

The thing is though, that for upper school, you only get one crack at the whip, and it is rather disappointing (to say the least) that the AD doesn't even bother to turn up get to see you dance at all.

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The thing is though, that for upper school, you only get one crack at the whip, and it is rather disappointing (to say the least) that the AD doesn't even bother to turn up get to see you dance at all.

 

too busy recruiting overseas talent at PDL :(

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I think all that has been said is extremely valid. The director should certainly be present for all auditions for RBS. Lower school included. All other school directors are at every audition. Imagine if companies applied the same tactics! I think something should be said to the RBS. The head of outreach chooses all children from 8 years old to 16/17. So he might as well be the artistic director!

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It was the same last year I gather. It seems to be intentional to schedule the London Upper School prelim on the same day as the Prix de Lausanne with the result the artistic director can't attend. Not an issue for dancers with an automatic pass to finals but a bit depressing for everyone else.

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Also a little inappropriate,as I did hear Mr. Power broadcast in an article about RBS,that he didn't approve of competitions for his students. "It eats into the work schedule!" Or words to that effect!

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It was the same last year I gather. It seems to be intentional to schedule the London Upper School prelim on the same day as the Prix de Lausanne

And the year before. We were there. He wasn't. 

 

Three years running this has happened now. It isn't funny.

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Yes, it's a big mistake not being there. In his first appointed year there was a particular SA which he loved, this SA was not put through to final audition ( the daftest reason was given and made me lose any respect I had of the RBS selection process!). He assumed this SA was in the finals and was raging apparently that this was not the case, even rang the parents to speak to them personally. Said student was amazing and Excelled elsewhere.

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It is also the case that whilst he has been director several children who failed to gain a place at the school via audition have managed to enter the school with a trial week/day or simply a private class. There is definitely a discrepancy between the head of outreach and the directors choices. Just to put the final nail in the coffin, it's also the head of outreach that selects for summer school! If you're not Mr.Annear's cup of tea, then it's all over for you!

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Also a little inappropriate,as I did hear Mr. Power broadcast in an article about RBS,that he didn't approve of competitions for his students. "It eats into the work schedule!" Or words to that effect!

 

funnily enough  you may find similar sentiments expressed  in a variety of activities / sports / jobs and at all levels from the local provision through to the national level .. 

 

it's very easy to  take a quote out of context . 

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It is also the case that whilst he has been director several children who failed to gain a place at the school via audition have managed to enter the school with a trial week/day or simply a private class.

Yes, the student I was referring to was asked to reapply etc but by that point the damage had been done, another fabulous school offered and RBS lost an amazing dancer. Personally, the student was better off elsewhere.

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Yes that's what happens and good luck to her/him. I always say it will all come out in the wash anyway! May the best person win!

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Good grief taxi4ballet. So the school is materially funded by the UK taxpayer but the head sees no reason to attend the first stage of scouting UK talent. And sees no reason to be in sell mode with parents who will have to work their socks off to pay up to potentially all of the fees and entrust pastoral care and academic education of their children. It's not the commercial world is it this?!!

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It is also the case that whilst he has been director several children who failed to gain a place at the school via audition have managed to enter the school with a trial week/day or simply a private class. There is definitely a discrepancy between the head of outreach and the directors choices. Just to put the final nail in the coffin, it's also the head of outreach that selects for summer school! If you're not Mr.Annear's cup of tea, then it's all over for you!

at  the risk of saying 'and such is life'  ... 

 

now the question is  would people be saying that  if Mr Annear  was the director , or  was someone  who was a 'high st name' ... ? 

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Good grief taxi4ballet. So the school is materially funded by the UK taxpayer but the head sees no reason to attend the first stage of scouting UK talent. And sees no reason to be in sell mode with parents who will have to work their socks off to pay up to potentially all of the fees and entrust pastoral care and academic education of their children. It's not the commercial world is it this?!!

 

 ' the commercial world' is an interesting thing ... to be facetious when was the last time you  saw Seb James helping somone put a telly in their boot ... 

 

oddly enough  in 'normal' schooling  the  tuitular head ifs often absent from significant events 

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On the bright side it gives some comfort to the many who receive a 'no'. If a child isn't even properly watched at audition then the no is not worth the paper it is written on

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' the commercial world' is an interesting thing ... to be facetious when was the last time you saw Seb James helping somone put a telly in their boot ...

 

oddly enough in 'normal' schooling the tuitular head ifs often absent from significant events

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One of the points being made is that st other vocational schools the director of the school does attend both prelim and final auditions. This was the case at Elmhurst and tring last year.

Also the fact is the head of outreach has not been given the job of school director so that is why people find it odd that they have so much say over who goes there. If they had been chosen for that role then fine, but as they haven't people may well question it.

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On the bright side it gives some comfort to the many who receive a 'no'. If a child isn't even properly watched at audition then the no is not worth the paper it is written on

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Well said Flora! I know way too many talented children who have had the no letter. The good news is that other schools have benefitted from the RBS'S mistakes and the children in question have blossomed and perhaps by default ended up in a much better situation!

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I guess ultimately there is nothing to criticise if RBS is satisfied with and nurtures the dancers it does opt for but the problem is you don't always get that impression

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As everyone's path through life is different, I am a firm believer that the opportunities that present themselves to the individual are the correct Ones for their journey. As one door closes, another door opens. Don't mourn what is not meant to be but joyfully embrace what presents itself. Our culture seems to be so hung up on success or failure as defined by someone else - I love the approach that nothing is a failure but a step closer to success. Your own individual success. Have a dream, follow that dream but be open to the fact there will be kinks in the road and those kinks are taking you to where you are meant to be.

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oddly enough in 'normal' schooling the tuitular head ifs often absent from significant events

Not at my son's school. The head attends every event I have ever been to

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And a dancer's life has more ups and downs than the big dipper at Blackpool! So all in all its probably just as well they get some practice in as youngsters! Where there is a will, there is a way!

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Not at my son's school. The head attends every event I have ever been to

Size of School? While the head of a 250 pupil primary may welle able to attend every significant evnt in the school calender it might be rather different in a 1500 + student 11-18 where there is something of significance on average twice a week ( although obviously clustered e.g. week long performance periods ( sometimes several times a year even in the 'nillaest of 'nilla schools) and week long exam shows for arts / DT )

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