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I think its best that you son just concentrates on his solo rather than getting stressed about doing the optional drama piece!

 

As others have said, if its an mds you are after then only the classical ballet is looked at. At finals all they do is a Ballet class. I know this both from a parent snd as a teachers experience.

 

So please just make sure he can dance for a minute with confidence. The solo is only seen once so he just has to dance his heart out and not worry if the choreograpy is accurate!

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Just a quick question re white lodge no letters. One of the parents said that their dd's no letter specifically stated why she had not been considered. That it was lack of flexibility in one area only and that if this was worked on they would like to see her again. I find this odd as the letter my ds got said nothing like that. It did say something about trying again and that he was a strong contender for Mids ( highly unlikely) but nothing else. Has anyone else had a very specific no letter like that.

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I think that's pretty unusual - the letters are usually pretty vague - saying that there may be various reasons for not being selected but please try again as children change. But I suppose it's good if they see one very particular thing wrong that they mention it. I am surprised though - they see so many, I'm not surprised they don't give feedback.

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Remember parents aren't always completely honest about what they've been told (I'm not saying this one in particular, but it's a possibility)

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I couldn't agree more, JulieW. We were told that DD's friend had had very specific advice about what her strong points were (apparently many) and what her (apparently very few) weak points were when she was unsuccessful in an associate scheme audition. This was found to be entirely made up. I felt very sorry for DD's friend as she clearly hadn't been told about the competition she should expect at associate or other auditions and she was then understandably baffled as to why she hadn't been accepted in light of her mum's invented 'feedback' from the associate scheme.

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Just a quick question re white lodge no letters. One of the parents said that their dd's no letter specifically stated why she had not been considered. That it was lack of flexibility in one area only and that if this was worked on they would like to see her again. I find this odd as the letter my ds got said nothing like that. It did say something about trying again and that he was a strong contender for Mids ( highly unlikely) but nothing else. Has anyone else had a very specific no letter like that.

I have had two dd's in JA's and each time nothing specific was mentioned in the letter, although at the time something must have been written somewhere about feedback but it was deemed only acceptable to request it through your child's local teacher. 

What is also different from the letters I've had in the past is that you say your letter says he is a strong contender for Mids.

I am thinking that there has been a bit of a shake up this year as a few things, re auditioning and Summer School are different.

Well done for Elmhurst and good luck for the Final .

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If your letter does say that he is a strong contender for mids then in my experience it is not a comment made to everyone and therefore likely to be true!

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Just a quick question re white lodge no letters. One of the parents said that their dd's no letter specifically stated why she had not been considered. That it was lack of flexibility in one area only and that if this was worked on they would like to see her again. I find this odd as the letter my ds got said nothing like that. It did say something about trying again and that he was a strong contender for Mids ( highly unlikely) but nothing else. Has anyone else had a very specific no letter like that.

 

Hello all. Have had a chance to read up on all the lovely news now, so well done everyone who was successful. 

My DD had a no letter from WL as you all know, and there was no specific feedback, but it did say that she would be strongly considered for MIDs. I'm hoping that they wouldn't get peoples hopes up about such a thing if they didn't really mean it.

 

So fingers and toes, and legs and eyes crossed in our house :)

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Hi to everyone and thanks for trying to clarify WL no letter. I just assumed all WL no letters said the bit about being a strong contender for mids. Just assumed it was a nice let down to appease after reject so would be nice if I was wrong. I too thought it a bit suspicious about the other girl's specific no letter. Her parents did think she almost had a guaranteed place as she was picked for nutcracker. It made me wonder if my ds just had too many reasons to list regarding it being a no!

 

Consulting JA teacher for feedback............. Has anyone done that? Is it ok to do? I have always felt as though she doesn't have much time for me, a bit evasive/none committal.

 

Sorry to be a pain but how do you copy a bit of the text from another message onto your message please?

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I don't know whether the "strongly being considered for MAs" has gone into the JA letters - would need to hear from more people to find that out.

 

We didn't speak to dd's JA teacher but I know plenty of people who did. You won't get an official line from them as of course they can't comment (won't know) what the panel thought, but they'll probably give you their best guess :-)

 

And to quote someone message, use the quote button at the bottom of that message. On my phone I have to tap the message first to get some options come up (I also have edit and delete buttons as a moderator!). You can then delete bits of the quoted message within your own message if you need to. There is a test section in another party of the forum if you just want to have a go first.

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Hi MVOBE it was my dd's local teacher  that requested the feedback, she spoke to Mark Annear head of the Associate programme. This was 3 years ago.

Has his local teacher been to watch him recently? Do they even still do this........I was thinking you could invite his teacher to watch and she could ask the JA teacher about your sons progress.

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Wouldn't have thought the strong contender for mids would go on every letter, but I think it might be new this year because as far as I know it wasn't on any of the children from my dd's JA class last year. My dd didn't get a mids place but she was put on swl so I assume she must have been considered for one.

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I will probably pluck up the courage to ask his JA teacher for her opinion, guess it can't hurt.

 

We have tring this week, does anyone know how that compares to Elmhurst regarding number of boys auditioning please?

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I will probably pluck up the courage to ask his JA teacher for her opinion, guess it can't hurt.

 

We have tring this week, does anyone know how that compares to Elmhurst regarding number of boys auditioning please?

Hi, MVOBE, I am new to the forum but my dd is a JA.  We are currently waiting for results for lower school, but have been offered finals for Elmhurst and Hammond. 

A parent asked at our last session if we could ask our JA teacher for feedback.  We were told that the teachers do NOT give feedback to parents, however your local dance teacher is allowed to ring the JA admin office at Covent Garden and they will discuss with them.  Hope this helps.  Also the franking machine was broken at Covent Garden so that has delayed the results being sent.  Apparently Manchester audition results were being posted today.  Good Luck to all still waiting. :)

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We were advised to do just that , so I asked our local teacher if she would phone for us . She then said that although she could if we insisted but that we were unlikely to get any concrete information as to why DS was not chosen , so she advised against that .

The only information I gleaned was via another parent who, opon calling Mark Annear said he had been told that at the end of the day it came down to body proportions rather than talent or level of training , as any of the finalists were suitable , they just had to find a way to choose 12!

I stress that this is what I was told by another parent and therefore I can't vouch for its accuracy !

I don't think one can read anything into those general comments and it is not likely that one will ever find out exactly why some were picked and not others . I think it would be safer to ask the teacher that knows them best what weaknesses they feel could be worked on etc.

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Thank you dance momma and billyelliott. I have decided to ask nothing and just forget White Lodge. There is no point focusing on what you can't change better to look forward to Elmhurst finals and Tring on Thursday.

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My gdd got a yes for the finals for WL once again, ( yr 8 ) as did her friend, so the process is on it's way once again. Looking forward to the 28th, but with mixed feelings this time round, for various reasons.

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Congratulations to her Vonrothbart.  Is that from the London audition?  I am thinking of stalking the street to see if the postman is there!!!!

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Congratulations to her Vonrothbart.  Is that from the London audition?  I am thinking of stalking the street to see if the postman is there!!!!

No, it was from Manchester Suzyszoo, thanks for your kind comments.

 

Congratulations to your granddaughter and her friend, VonRothbart! That's amazing, to get to RBS finals twice :-)

Thanks legseleven, and yes it is nice, especially as the two girls and their families have grown up together. 

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Congratulations to those with a yes. You have an exciting day to plan. As for those who were not so lucky, try not to think too hard about why. Its useful to have feedback but I have learned that you can drive yourself a bit bonkers trying to work out why or why not some children are chosen and others not. Our dance teacher asked for feedback for my DS and it was all good! So we still had no idea why he didnt get in lol! I have heard of some kids getting to Royal finals but not Elmhurst and vise versa.. Each school likes different things. Good luck to the London auditionees....last letters due I think.

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I think about 24 make the final for the twelve places in yr 7 at WL, but as there are only supposedly  three places in yr 8, does anyone know how many will make the final please?

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I think about 24 make the final for the twelve places in yr 7 at WL, but as there are only supposedly  three places in yr 8, does anyone know how many will make the final please?

we were told 30 had made it to finals for Y7 at WL.  Sorry cant help on Y8 numbers :huh:

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I think about 24 make the final for the twelve places in yr 7 at WL, but as there are only supposedly  three places in yr 8, does anyone know how many will make the final please?

hi Vonrothbart, I am not sure how many they will take to finals for yr 8, I think last year there were 3 girls for the 1 place.

As for this year, I am not sure where you heard there were going to be 3 places from as unless they assess out there will be no places ! My daughter and her friends are in yr 7 at the moment and it is hard to think of 3 of them being assessed out! I would imagine in year 8 its one place if any at all most years!! 

I think you have to be very careful what you believe and I hope that none of the year 7 girls have seen that 3 places are up for grabs!!!

Don't get me wrong, I am on the audition side too with my son wanting a place so I can see both sides! good luck to your gdd at finals and I hope she enjoys the day.

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