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Does anyone know if when auditioning for and being successful for vocational school, mds awards are only given for ballet? I have tried to research this on both government and other websites and can only find reference to "talented children", not ballet dancers in particular. I was just wondering.

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Sorry didn't explain myself clearly. I wanted to know if children on a CAT scheme received medical insurance as part of their award. And also when medical insurance was part of the MDS award would all children receive it or would it be dependent on parental contribution. ie high earners don't get it. Conversely, when the child comes from a low income family, but goes to a school which doesn't include the medical insurance, is any provision made.

Now I am also wondering if medical insurance is mandatory for students at vocational colleges? Do Dada's include it?

 

 

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With regard to vocational colleges

  • When my dd went to Northern Ballet School medical insurance was not mandatory - however there was an expectation that if you needed to see a physio you would do so. Certainly the school wouldn't cover it. My dd had cover through my occupational scheme.
  • Dada's do not cover the cost of medical insurance. In fact the Dada itself only covers fees, and goes straight to the college. Those on low incomes who are awarded a Dada can apply for support with living expenses. I believe that the amount you get depends on income. I suppose in this case it would be up to you to decide whether you put some of this amount towards medical insurance, or whether to pay for private physio appointments, or rely on the NHS.

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I am aware that most dance schools give ballet students their mds' but was wondering if that was the schools choice or whether this is laid down by the government. On the education website it only states that mds' are for talented children in dance/music and I wondered if there were any guidlines saying only ballet dancers could get an mds? Thanks

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The sad reality that schools award these government MDS for talent and physique for potential in training for classical ballet. Schools are usually frank about their criteria for selection. I can speak personally about 2 of the 4 MDS schools and have close friends who have children at the other 2.

With regard to medical insurance these 4 schools encourage you to join the BUPA schools scheme which is included as a separate fee within MDS, you can opt out but have to have own cover.

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That's kind of what I meant too famcandance - is there a 'non-negotiable' checklist of physical factors/abilities etc that apply to all dancers, all schools, all schemes or is just down to the artistic director's preferences/own criteria in the light of their own school circumstances?

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The fact that MDS awards are given by the governement to the CAT schemes and the 'ballet schools' is surely already an indication that these awards are intended for primarily for dancers showing a particular talent/potential for ballet. Unless I am mistaken (and that is possible) MDS awards are not available for dancers at the vocational schools that are more focused on musical theatre or performing arts eg Sylvia Young, Brit School, Suzie Earnshaw(?) etc. Obviously each school selects through audition, the children they believe have the most potential and I thought the MDS then went to the children the school thought were the best. I might be naive in this view as I have not had a child audition at this age, but certainly at 6th form level, some of the schools explained that each candidate was 'scored' (for want of a better word) at their audition and when they awarded DADAs it was on merit and put quite simply, those with the highest scores were offered the award.

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This is what I have been led to believe as well, 2dancersmum. furthermore, I understood that all dancers offered an MDS award have to have had a physio exam to determine physical suitability and this is why the four main schools all include this in the audition at one stage or another. The physio exam at Hammond is at the first audition and at the other three schools it is at the final, although at Tring not many children even at the final are sent to the physio. Does anyone know of anyone at Tring that was offered MDS without having seen the physio at the final?

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Yes, the CAT we went to a taster day for has an osteopath and the children are screened by the osteopath - if I remember rightly, they are screened either before or on an offer of a place, then at least once a year thereafter.

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Yes the only ballet CAT is at Northern ballet.

The remainder tend to be Contemporary but I think there is an Urban dance one and a South East Asian dance one.

At my daughter's CAT they all had a physiotherapy assessment after being offered a place (interesting how they are all different Lil and Spannerandpony).

There was no mention of needing private medical insurance but we were all told that we could access the school's physio at a reduced rate if necessary.

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As Hammond is not particularly a "ballet school" in the sense of the word as they offer drama and music courses too, I don't see that the wording is of any real indication. Tring is also not strictly a ballet school. Surely one would hope that mds' are given to children with talent for any form of dance or in fact performing arts as a whole? Maybe I'm wrong here, but really just wanted to know if anyone knew whether the government stipulated ballet or whether the schools just chose to go this route.

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If you go on the website given by moneypenny it lists all the schools involved in the scheme.

My understanding would be that any child auditioning for and gaining entry to those participating schools whether they be ballet, a mixture of ballet and performing arts or purely for musicians would be eligible for an MDS

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