balletla Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Good luck to all the year 11s doing Elmhurst finals today and ENBS on Saturday! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasdebourree15 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Best wishes to everyone auditioning!!!! Hope all goes well and eager to hear how they went! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkletoes123 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Does anyone know how many places there are for ENBS 1st year? And how long to wait for the result? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Ballerina Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 In ENBS 1st year, there are currently 12 girls and 12 boys. But there is always variation amongst year groups, so the number is not set in stone! LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swe Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Does anyone know when Elmhurst likely to hear?-dd didn't seem to know thanks all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swe Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Any news?? We are still waiting so beginning to think it must be a 'no' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friends Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Results are out for both We know of one RBS SA being offered a place so far at ENBS. Fantastic news ! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Autumn days Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Have all finalists heard about elmhurst or only those currently at the school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat09 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) Brilliant news Discouraged - great to see those in the Associate programmes having success after being up against those from Vocational schools - after reading some of the threads lately I think some of the non vocational DC were feeling a bit low - I hope they are now feeling inspired and positive - parents too!! Good luck to your DD @ Central next week - have my fingers crossed x Edited March 21, 2013 by Kat09 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spax Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 My ds goes to a vocational school and the only difference is that he has his ballet lessons at school instead of me driving a 50 mile trip 4 nights aweek for the same amount if lessons. I wouldn't worry about dc from vocational schools being better as that is not the case, its the child and the teaching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moneypenny Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I think that's a bit of a generalization! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balletla Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 I am surprised by how many non-vocational students have got places for 6th form and that is just the RBS/ENBS/Elmhust results I know of so far and how many vocational students seem to be struggling for places. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chassé Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 A boy at my CAT has just been offered a place and ENBS and Rambert, we are all so proud of him!! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 That's fantastic Chassé! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PippinPointe Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 If Spax you are correct, then why all the frenzy to send a child to train vocationally at 11? I think you may possibly be a little off base with your information. I'm not sure how many children access locally 20+ hours per week of training? Just an observation. Well done to all of those gaining 6th form places, a very tough year for parents and students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balletgirlsplease Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Discouraged has your DD got a place yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Pippinpointe, there are many reasons why vocational school works well for many people from 11. One would be that at a good school, the student should get a good foundation and grounding in basic technique. There may be performance opportunities which aren't available to children at local schools. Great facilities, on-site physios, and obviously getting plenty of good quality training are also hugely helpful. Plus you don't have the problem of tired teenagers doing a full day at academic school, rushing home, finding time to eat a good pre-dancing meal and rush out to ballet class each evening as well as fitting in huge amounts of homework. My own dd is not at Vocational school; she wasn't ready either physically, emotionally or technically to get a funded place at 11, so I'm not defending any school in particular. Fortunately she is managing well with all her commitments, and is progressing very well at an excellent Associate scheme, and as we know it is of course possible to get a place at Upper School without being at a lower school - but there are pros and cons to both routes. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afab Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 If Spax you are correct, then why all the frenzy to send a child to train vocationally at 11? I think you may possibly be a little off base with your information. I'm not sure how many children access locally 20+ hours per week of training? Just an observation. Well done to all of those gaining 6th form places, a very tough year for parents and students. I don't think DC at vocational school get 20+ hours of training per week. I even seriously doubt that knowing the Tring timetable for example.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lildancer96 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 In 6th form at Tring my dd does over 20 hours of dance a week ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afab Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Yes Lildancer in 6th form I agree but PippinPointe was talking about vocational school at 11... At 11, they don't do that many hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primrose Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 When my dd was at lower school in both Hammond and Tring she danced for at least 20 hours per week. Students tend to dance either all moring or afternoon with academics the opposite end of the day. The students also take classes on a Saturday, my dd did anyway. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBA Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 My dd is 11 and at Tring and they do 17.5 hours per week ,plus rehearsals for shows, choreo etc on top, so Pippinpointe what you're trying to say is accurate , and this is why places at vocational schools are so sought after ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friends Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Discouraged has your DD got a place yet? My dd has her Central final audition this Sunday. Unfortunately I feel we have naively underestimated the actual numbers of hours training required in order to compete with the vocational students. You never know a miracle may happen! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balletla Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 But it's not just about how many hours training you do. It is also about talent. Like I said earlier, I am amazed by how many non-vocational school children have been offered places at the top schools so far and virtually none of them will have been doing 20hrs a week. It is about quality more than quantity. I beginning to question the need for vocational school but perhaps this is a subject for a separate post as we are getting off topic here. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millie3 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Disouraged My dd is nowhere near the 20 hour of classes a week- it would be physically impossible given our location and access to decent training. On her 4 hours (6 on associate weeks) she's gained final places and is off to study full time in September. We personally know a number of non-vocational students who now have places at various schools - so don't give up just yet, they wouldn't have recalled her if they weren't interested. Good luck for central final. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PippinPointe Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Thank you Tango I'm glad you understood what I was saying. Vocational schools naturally offer more training which is exactly why they are a desireable option. However they are not the right route for all but if you have spent years training at that level the underlying strength is more than those who haven't for very many reasons followed that path. This does not however exclude non- vocational students from gaining places at vocational classical schools at 16. For some it may be seen as an advantage in that the student may have huge potential that will then be realised at 6th form - where others who have seriously trained for longer may have already realised their potential and find that there is not as much to come to fruition - I am not saying this is the case just a possibility for an occasional student. I know many non vocational students who have gained places at vocational 6th forms and done very well as well as those who have studied vocationally for many younger years and have also done very well too. It takes many ingredients to make the dancer and many varied journeys. I think this is probably a discussion for another thread. I would however like to wish your DD Discouraged the very best of luck for her Central finals - fabulous school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spax Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 If Spax you are correct, then why all the frenzy to send a child to train vocationally at 11? I think you may possibly be a little off base with your information. I'm not sure how many children access locally 20+ hours per week of training? Just an observation. Well done to all of those gaining 6th form places, a very tough year for parents and students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spax Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Don't know. We moved to London and found school by accident looking for evening classes. Anna offered ds full time school. Got my evenings back. Nearest school to us was a catholic school where you have to go to church and most of the others private. Live right in the city. So took Anna's offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spax Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Don't do anywhere near 20+ hours aweek. Where did you get that info from PippinPoint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PippinPointe Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Spax that is excellent for your DS and like you say you got your evenings back - there will be many parents on this forum who will totally understand that side of things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PippinPointe Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Sorry we were posting at the same time!! I wasn't being specific about YDA but vocational schools in general from 11-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spax Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 20+ hours plus a week for 11 year olds is a lot. When do they do academic work. Need their education to fall back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primrose Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Usually afternoons or mornings. The exam results in all the vocational schools are excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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