Lemongirl Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 And if so, from what age could she manage herself? Dd is 11.5 and I'm still doing her bun. She's not bad at doing hair generally but struggles a bit with buns and says mine are neater! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBA Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 My DD has been doing her own hair since she was 10 and she does it to perfection. She went away to a residential summer school and practiced a few times before and then just had to get on with it ! They learn very quickly ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All4dancers Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 My dd also learnt to do her own bun just before she went to summer school for the first time. She had just turned 11. I love doing her hair, but now she won't let me unless it's for an audition. I miss it, but as she's going away in September, I guess it's best that she does her own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophika9899 Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Don't worry, lemongirl , my DD took ages before she could manage a decent bun. I think she was about 12.5 . She has very long straight extremely thick hair and uses about 25 pins to secure it! I'm sure your daughter will suddenly 'get it' and your bun making days will be over... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afab Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 DD1 did hers when she was about 12-13, DD2 when she was 11 and little DD3 at 9... I suppose my tiredness at having having to do it played a big part! And they have lenses as well!!! Summer schools force you to independence... They still don't sew their pointes though! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friends Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Try starting with the ponytail first. Once that is mastered the bun will follow. My daughter's problem and mine is trying to do the french pleat! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanprincess Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 I think I was about 11- I have always been very perfectionist, and so I decided that poor Mum's desperate bun attempts just weren't good enough, so had to do it myself!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieW Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 We've never managed a French pleat with my dd's hair either Discouraged - too much of it I think. But I'm fine with French plaits, although she's never got the hang of it on herself and she's 18 now! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiz Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 French pleats! Argh! I could never do them. When it was time for tap and modern exams at my two dd's ballet school, the three people who could make them (out of the hundreds who went there!) turned the place in to a French pleat making factory, thank goodness 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circe Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 When might you do a french pleat rather than a bun? For performances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plie Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 My daughter was 10 last year at Royal summer school and did her own bun each day! I do however still do it for her most of the time especially for auditions and Jas etc as she prefers me to do it!!! She will have to do it soon enough is she goes away in September so I am happy to hold on to those moments for now!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friends Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 French pleats tend to be worn by girls from 16+ and they look fantastic but how they are achieved is a miracle unless hair is of a shorter length! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi4ballet Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 My dd has taken about a year to master buns, and she won't let me anywhere near her hair now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primrose Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 My dd learnt to do her own hair at 10 years prior to going away to vocational school, and that is really because she had to. If your dd isnt going away then I wouldnt worry too much at all. Different hair types can be very difficult to handle. That mother daughter bond whilst doing the hair is lovely, you might not think so at the time but in later years you will look back with a smile on your face. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picturesinthefirelight Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Dd's modern & tap teacher does French pleats for exams as buns get in the way during floor excercises and they look neater than just normal ponytails. I can't do them at all. My bun attempts are passable - just. Because dd's ballet class is straight from school ( some finish school at 4pm and class is 4.15pm her teacher doesn't mind as long as you've made an attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picturesinthefirelight Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 The best parent done buns I've seen at dd's school is a girl whose dad does her hair. He's brilliant at it- she always looks pristine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ja Sm Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 My dd is 12 and has probably been doing her own bun for the last 6 months or so, getting better all the time. I think it's just practice. Mine were awful at the beginning as well! I have never mastered pleating at all, not matter how many times I try. Would love someone to teach me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balletgirlsplease Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 My dd is 10 and can do her own. It is very thick hair and long too. However, I tend to till do it for we JA class or festivals as it is neater. She has put it in a ponytail herself for a good year and can do an ordinary plait too. I have recently discovered the bun heads bun pins and even though her hair is very thick you only need about 4 or 5 of them. They hold extremely well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danceroo Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 My dd is just 10 with really thick curly hair. I struggle to put it in a bun myself! She is boarding at Tring for the Easter dance course so we are in the process of trying to teach her to do her own bun. I was hoping there would be adults on hand to help with this? It will be hard enough being away from home for the first time let alone worrying if your hair is ok! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regattah Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Those whose DD's are struggling, have you tried the bun net over the ponytail, then shape it round and round into a bun, then pin method? It really helps, especially if the hair is not quite long enough or is a little unruly. My DD learnt how to do her own bun aged about 10 using this method. Now 13 and doing it every day at school she puts the net on after the pins. You do it flatter, more 'pancake' that way. Can I ask a silly question? What's the difference between a french pleat and a french plait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lplkemc Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 I do my daughter's bun. Too many pins were really getting me down, and then I discovered the bun screws. It will even hold with 1 screw, and my daughter has quite long hair. I start with a pony tail and do the bun around that. At some point, I will have to do it a different way. I do prefer the screws to jillions of hair pins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 I always thought a French plait was one of those plaits that is plaited onto your head and not just where the hair falls loose. A French pleat is a sort of sausage-shaped bun and looks extremely elegant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belleballerina Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 No that is french plaits like normal plaits but someone looks wonderful and starts from the top of the head.and is done backwards. Then there is the fish tail plaits!! French pleats are sophisticated classical styles as you described which I need to get to grips with for festival ballet group but despite watching numerous you tube footage and buying something similar to a bun donut but long and thin - still no success! My dd will not allow me near her hair as it has always be a bit of an obsession with me for the bun to be flat and neat and she tends to back comb it and make it look rather like a birds nest! For festivals and auditions and exams I will stand there and encourage rather than shout with a can of hairspray to get it right! She has long hair too which doesn't help. Then we have the bun with curls for her modern duet and her messy side parting bun for a modern group and high twisty plaits for NYB audition - help !!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The best parent done buns I've seen at dd's school is a girl whose dad does her hair. He's brilliant at it- she always looks pristine.My husband's ballet bun technique is brilliant - incredibly neat and polished! :-) I think ease of styling is so dependent on hair type. I have very thick but coarse wavy hair and it's brilliant for staying put in any hairstyle - even French Twists/Pleats. Dd's hair is really tricky - thick, lots of it, but silky and shiny - so doesn't want to stay in any style without long thick bunheads pins and at least half a ton of hairspray! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi4ballet Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 My dd got much better at hers when she was on the Tring Easter School last year. She said they all practised on each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballettaxi Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 When my DD started at Scottish Ballet JA's she was 9 and part of their very first class was being shown how to do their own buns - they were told quite clearly that they must be able to do it themselves. Since then the most I have to do is ensure the starting pony tail is smooth and at the right height for exams/auditions. On a normal class day she will do everything herself. Unfortunately she has very fine, exceptionally curly hair - so we are 100% reliant on GHD's and John Freida Frizz Eaze for exam days (the serum gives a much nicer finish than hairspray we find as it doesn't look so 'solid') - for normal class her teacher accepts that she'll have her 'wild' days where the curls just will not stay in a pony never mind a bun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemongirl Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 Very impressed with these dads that do buns! I went away for a few days a year or two ago and dh just about managed a simple pony tail on the dds! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemongirl Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 Just looking at these bunhead pins on Planet Dance. Which size is best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Um, the longest ones if your dd has long hair and it makes a bun about the width of an adult fist. Unless the hair is very fine and makes a little bun I always use the medium or long ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Very impressed with these dads that do buns! I went away for a few days a year or two ago and dh just about managed a simple pony tail on the dds! I've had several spells in hospital so I had to teach DH how to do a decent bun - now his are better than mine! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanprincess Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Very impressed with these dads that do buns! I went away for a few days a year or two ago and dh just about managed a simple pony tail on the dds! Lol, after my parents divorced, on a Friday (when we were with dad) my younger sister always went to school with her hair in three pigtails because dad couldn't quite manage to get it into two! bless him 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemongirl Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 I've had several spells in hospital so I had to teach DH how to do a decent bun - now his are better than mine! :-) Trouble is, when I mention buns to dh, he thinks of food! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hfbrew Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 My seven year old niece does her own hair as my sister is hopeless! I award my younger students stars for having their hair up- the one with the most at the end of term gets first pick from my hair scrunchie bag! They quickly learn that my" mum/dad can't do it" is not an excuse as I award extra stars to those who have had a go themselves, however messy it is. I also encourage them to bring the hair things in with them if they really struggle so that me or a helper can do it- thats a great way of showing them. Having done this for years I now find that students from 10 years are usually pretty efficient- practise makes perfect! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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