Ondine Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Well, I look forward to seeing who is the lucky couple! https://www.roh.org.uk/photos/40729020523 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ondine Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 46 minutes ago, FLOSS said: The Cellist was an interesting idea which does not work in the theatre and it uses far too many talented dancers as little more than living scenery. Yes. However I suppose it was a considerable investment so has to have another outing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_New Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 hour ago, FLOSS said: The Cellist was an interesting idea which does not work in the theatre and it uses far too many talented dancers as little more than living scenery And not enough ‘real’ dancing anyway. I just remember the seemingly never-ending lifts ….. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 6 hours ago, Ondine said: Yes I know. So I'm not sure what you meant by 'back just in time for DonQ' when it doesn't open for a few months yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ondine Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 i meant in time for the announcement of the new season! Hopefully she will be dancing. And an excuse to post a clip of her 🤩 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ondine Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Actually here's another. I like Don Q. Good old rep war horse with singalong tunes. I'm not ashamed to to say it! Lots of fun in a world which needs a lot more fun. 😊 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candleque Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Ondine said: Actually here's another. I like Don Q. Good old rep war horse with singalong tunes. I'm not ashamed to to say it! Lots of fun in a world which needs a lot more fun. 😊 I first encountered Don Q in the movie The Turning Point where a new Kitri is rehearsing with a revered coach. Loved that scene in the film and then in the ballet. So will book just to see this IRL again 😆 Also (and here is why we REALLY need more of the cast mentioned in advance) I think Ryoichi Hirano is amazing perfect as Espada. Would book just to see him again. Since we can assume (mostly) who will dance Kitri, it would be fun to think about who gets to debut as Mercedes. Has Leticia Dias done this role already? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Candleque said: Since we can assume (mostly) who will dance Kitri, it would be fun to think about who gets to debut as Mercedes. Has Leticia Dias done this role already? No, Leticia was an Artist when Don Q was last on the ROH stage. But she would be a great fit. By the way, has she been dancing since the night when an injury sustained in Act 1 caused her to have to withdraw from Autumn mid show. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, Candleque said: Also (and here is why we REALLY need more of the cast mentioned in advance) I think Ryoichi Hirano is amazing perfect as Espada. Would book just to see him again. He really is! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, capybara said: No, Leticia was an Artist when Don Q was last on the ROH stage. But she would be a great fit. By the way, has she been dancing since the night when an injury sustained in Act 1 caused her to have to withdraw from Autumn mid show. I have been to a few since then and haven't seen her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnstar Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 She hasn't been on any of the Cinderella cast lists since. I've been checking because of wondering if she was okay. Sadly that presumably means that she isn't. Hope she recovers soon. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balletfanatic Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 3 hours ago, J_New said: And not enough ‘real’ dancing anyway. I just remember the seemingly never-ending lifts ….. I find a lot of modern ballets have way too many lifts and not enough dancing, and the lifts are often really complicated and don't look elegant to my eyes 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ondine Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) I like steps. Edited April 29, 2023 by Ondine Addition 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnstar Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, balletfanatic said: I find a lot of modern ballets have way too many lifts and not enough dancing, and the lifts are often really complicated and don't look elegant to my eyes Also a pretty good description of modern ice skating! (Replace lifts with jumps for the singles competitions.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emeralds Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Ondine said: Yes. However I suppose it was a considerable investment so has to have another outing. I actually enjoyed The Cellist with the first cast (Cuthbertson & Ball as du Pre and Barenboim, Sambe as her cello(s) and the embodiment of music) and was looking forward to seeing the second but circumstances disappointingly stopped us from being able to, and unfortunately Beatriz Stix-Brunell has left. The portrayal of her playing the renowned Elgar Cello Concerto was actually very thrilling, having seen the actual concerto performed by different great cellists (unfortunately I missed du Pre herself as her MS struck her so young)....and Sheku Kanneh Mason himself was in the audience with his pianist sister Isata Kanneh Mason and some friends watching it. Marston’s works can be a bit Marmite for some- I enjoy some but there are a few I haven’t connected with, even though objectively you can see that they’re crafted with the same care and detail. I wonder if she will tweak some bits after having been able to see how it looks on the Main Stage with a full orchestra. I did like this one immensely, even with a few bits that felt like they needed tweaking. I did actually like the use of dancers to be “objects” like the gramophone (just like Ashton used dancers to be chairs in Cinderella) as the Cello is also a dancer, so it was right that other music items were “human”. But preferences are personal. The Cellist also benefited from being on the same bill as Dances at a Gathering which was different enough in style but still having a “serious music” theme so I’m guessing that’s why Anemoi was paired with it. I might be in the minority here, but I preferred the costumes used for Scherzo (the short initial version of Anemoi) which were less fussy and less “grey” looking- the bright colours looked cheerful and uplifting. It’s possible that they weren’t even “designed” but just sets of new practice leotards with skirts for the women and coloured tights for the men taken from a catalogue-but they worked really well! (After all, Balanchine’s Agon, Four Temperaments, Concerto Barocco etc also use practice clothes that could also be ordered from a catalogue). I’m looking forward to seeing the final ending as (due to Covid affecting the cast, I was told) I ended up seeing two different endings for the two casts of Anemoi, so it will be interesting to see what the intended result should be! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxDaveM Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 hours ago, FionaE said: Going back to Liam Scarlett … I am beyond disappointed to read this extract from a Gramilano interview (Paul Arrowsmith) with Laura Morera … “Will we see Scarlett's ballets at The Royal Ballet again? I have asked the question, and the answer is a hard ‘no.' [Morera's eyes fill with tears]. But never say never. Other companies are making different choices.” but.... they scheduled Symphonic Dances before it became a victim of lockdown. I'd love to see that again, for sure 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ondine Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 And yet... Swan Lake? https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/liam-scarlett-s-enduring-legacy-royal-ballet-s-swan-lake-reviewed/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 27 minutes ago, Ondine said: And yet... Swan Lake? https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/liam-scarlett-s-enduring-legacy-royal-ballet-s-swan-lake-reviewed/ Bit confused by that, but it’s not like they aren’t going to not do the production they spent millions on, they might just try to hide the name Liam Scarlett and just call it: Swan Lake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oncnp Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Benjamin said: Bit confused by that, but it’s not like they aren’t going to not do the production they spent millions on, they might just try to hide the name Liam Scarlett and just call it: Swan Lake. But they don't - ADDITIONAL CHOREOGRAPHY Liam Scarlett and Frederick Ashton Perhaps the distinction they are drawing is that it's not solely Scalett's, therefore it can/will be performed. And, more likely as you point out, they spent a gazillion pounds on it and can't afford a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaM Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Swan Lake ‘Additional choreography’ by Liam … being most of every act, plus this entire version of the story. what’s left of Ashton - the Neapolitan? of Petipa - The Black Swan pdd? of Ivanov - the White Swan solo and adagio? I look forward to hearing from others with better knowledgeable who can help here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ondine Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 17 minutes ago, oncnp said: But they don't - ADDITIONAL CHOREOGRAPHY Liam Scarlett and Frederick Ashton Perhaps the distinction they are drawing is that it's not solely Scalett's, therefore it can/will be performed. And, more likely as you point out, they spent a gazillion pounds on it and can't afford a new one. The gazilion pounds I reckon is the clincher. And it's another curate's egg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oncnp Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, FionaE said: Swan Lake ‘Additional choreography’ by Liam … being most of every act, plus this entire version of the story. what’s left of Ashton - the Neapolitan? of Petipa - The Black Swan pdd? of Ivanov - the White Swan solo and adagio? I look forward to hearing from others with better knowledgeable who can help here. I believe the entire second act is original (i.e. not Scarlett) because it was too perfect to touch. Scarlett remains faithful to them – you don’t mess with Ivanov’s Act 2 – but has provided new ensembles and character dances, along with a clever twist or two. It’s a mark of his achievement that it’s sometimes difficult to discern when Petipa/Ivanov end and Scarlett begins. A keeper: Scarlett delivers a triumphant new Swan Lake for The Royal Ballet | Bachtrack Edited April 29, 2023 by oncnp add source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 7 hours ago, FionaE said: Swan Lake ‘Additional choreography’ by Liam … being most of every act, plus this entire version of the story. It does credit the production to him, not just additional choreography. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 @OndineI feel you. I assume it’s for data storing purposes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ondine Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 I appear to have been topped up again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ondine Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 On 26/04/2023 at 19:53, Ondine said: Rake's Progress, depends on who is cast of course! I'd love to see revivals too but I think not very likely. Ah the Wells books! I see I've used up my quota of LIKES for today. Hmm. Apologies for quoting myself, but I note that Sarasota Ballet has Rake's Progress in its repertoire. Ravishing costumes! https://www.yourobserver.com/news/2022/jan/18/sarasota-ballet-returns-to-familiar-territory-with-the-rakes-progress/ I've been looking at its programming and it's interesting how one act ballets are grouped and marketed. " "The Rake's Progress" will be just one of three acts in the Sarasota Ballet's Love & Betrayal program" Sarasota has Checkmate too. How good would it be to have a certain amount of 'exchange' of dancers and more of its rep which relates to the Royal Ballet's history / choreographers? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ondine Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Oh how wonderful is that old footage? Thank you @OnePigeon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnePigeon Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Speaking of the Rake’s Progress, here is some more wonderful old footage, though annoyingly attributed to Ashton. I’d dearly love to see it performed one day, though I don’t like my chances. My favourite moment of this video is spotting a very young Christopher Gable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 As this thread made a VERY major digression into Laura Morera's retirement, Royal Ballet style, Cecchetti and so on, I've moved a lot of posts into a perhaps more suitable thread here: 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolkgal Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 I remember seeing David Bintley in the title role ... must have been a SWRB tour of Rake’s Progress at Norwich. Pineapple Poll and Flower Festival at Genzano on same bill. Don’t ask me how I remember this stuff! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Suffolkgal said: I remember seeing David Bintley in the title role ... must have been a SWRB tour of Rake’s Progress at Norwich. Pineapple Poll and Flower Festival at Genzano on same bill. Don’t ask me how I remember this stuff! So envious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheilaC Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 25 minutes ago, Suffolkgal said: I remember seeing David Bintley in the title role ... must have been a SWRB tour of Rake’s Progress at Norwich. Pineapple Poll and Flower Festival at Genzano on same bill. Don’t ask me how I remember this stuff! Madam was very impressed by Bintley and chose him to perform her ballets, notably Checkmate. The Rake's Progress was one of the very first English ballets (score, choreography, design- based on Hogarth's classic pictures) so should be kept in the rep for historical reasons- also it gave Fonteyn a major early role as the Betrayed Girl. I am not alone in thinking Bintley was at least as good a character dancer as choreographer, if not better. He was unsurpassed in Fille as the Widow and Alain. But once he stopped dancing he didn't like any reference to his career as a dancer. One of the times I interviewed him when he was director he gave me short shrift for referring to his dancing career. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane S Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 I never saw Bintley as the Rake, but I do remember him very clearly as the Tailor, completely absorbed in his sewing. There's a film somewhere of de Valois rehearsing Checkmate with Bintley as the Red King, and as I remember it she doesn't appear to know his name and addresses him throughout as what's written on his t-shirt - Chicago or something. He was an outstanding Petrushka, too. (This Rake film was a Margaret Dale production for the BBC in 1961, with de Valois collaborating. Donald Britton is the Rake and Elizabeth Anderton is the Betrayed Girl - also it's good to see Brian Shaw as the Dancing Master - unexpected, too, as almost everyone else is from the RB touring company of that era.) Laura Morera did the Betrayed Girl in the RB's last staging of it - a very good role for her! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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