Dawnstar Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 4 hours ago, oncnp said: Mayara Magri has said on IG that she and Cesar Corrales will dance the general rehearsal tomorrow I'd been looking forward to seeing their double debut on 11th. I now feel slightly depressed that I won't in fact be seeing their debut. I know 2nd performances are often better but having seen Magri's Sugar Plum Fairy & Juliet debuts I was hoping for 3/3 with Swan Lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dawnstar said: I'd been looking forward to seeing their double debut on 11th. I now feel slightly depressed that I won't in fact be seeing their debut. I know 2nd performances are often better but having seen Magri's Sugar Plum Fairy & Juliet debuts I was hoping for 3/3 with Swan Lake. Not sure if I'm missing something here, but if you mean the general rehearsal it doesn't count as (and definitely isn't) their debut. The debut is the first public performance - rehearsals don't count! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPD444 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, bridiem said: Not sure if I'm missing something here, but if you mean the general rehearsal it doesn't count as (and definitely isn't) their debut. The debut is the first public performance - rehearsals don't count! Bridiem is right, they have been rehearsing for weeks and tomorrow is a continuation of those. With a play they have numerous previews but there is always a “first night” which is recognised as such. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnstar Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 36 minutes ago, bridiem said: Not sure if I'm missing something here, but if you mean the general rehearsal it doesn't count as (and definitely isn't) their debut. The debut is the first public performance - rehearsals don't count! There will be hundreds of paying audience members seeing them nearly 2 weeks earlier than I'll be able to see them, including doubtless many members of this forum, so for me that feels like I won't be seeing their first performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Throughout last week, the various Swan Lake casts will have had stage calls - I.e. full run throughs of the ballet with piano accompaniment. One cast will have danced a Pre General - a full run through in costume, usually with the orchestra. The final rehearsal is the General and it can be the case that the cast for this might not have had an earlier stage call. Photographers are usually invited to the Pre General or the General. Both are working rehearsals, not ‘performances’ . So, in recognition of that, we usually refrain from commenting on here, even though it is tempting to do so. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangorballetboy Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dawnstar said: There will be hundreds of paying audience members seeing them nearly 2 weeks earlier than I'll be able to see them, including doubtless many members of this forum, so for me that feels like I won't be seeing their first performance. It is a rehearsal not a performance. They are different. They may make parts of their roles, the rehearsal may actually be stopped to redo something. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 28 minutes ago, Dawnstar said: There will be hundreds of paying audience members seeing them nearly 2 weeks earlier than I'll be able to see them, including doubtless many members of this forum, so for me that feels like I won't be seeing their first performance. The 'audience' are paying to see a rehearsal, not a performance. Different prices, different purpose, different approach from all involved. You WILL be seeing their first performance. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) I have been at a number of General Rehearsals where at least one of the Principals has marked his/her part throughout, except in the pas de deux, and where dancers have 'stomped off' after taking their bows rather than exiting in the usual way. I have also been at rehearsals which have been stopped, mainly for technical reasons, ones where part of a scene has been repeated, and even ones where another cast came on and danced a sequence after the initial cast had done so. Then there is the Fire Drill........ I don't want to tempt fate but these do tend to take place during a working rehearsal, with the result that a 25 minute interval can extend to 50 minutes while everyone leaves the building, waits outside, and troops back in again. Such factors tend to detract from any sense that one is at a 'performance'!!! But I'm still looking forward to tomorrow............ Edited February 27, 2022 by capybara 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Add to that list the occasions when a dancer signals their displeasure at their own performance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnstar Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 51 minutes ago, bridiem said: The 'audience' are paying to see a rehearsal, not a performance. Different prices, different purpose, different approach from all involved. You WILL be seeing their first performance. I know I will factually. I just won't feel like I am emotionally! 32 minutes ago, capybara said: I have been at a number of General Rehearsals where at least one of the Principals has marked his/her part throughout, except in the pas de deux, and where dancers have 'stomped off' after taking their bows rather than exiting in the usual way. I have also been at rehearsals which have been stopped, mainly for technical reasons, ones where part of a scene has been repeated, and even ones where another cast came on and danced a sequence after the initial cast had done so. That must be really interesting to see. I've only ever been to one rehearsal, Manon in October 2019 and as far as I can recall the cast produced a near-identical performance to the "proper" performance I saw them do a couple of weeks later, including full curtain calls. It must be more interesting, especially if it's a ballet you've seen many times before, to see a rehearsal that actually looks like a rehearsal, with parts repeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Perregrino Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 After such a long wait, it will be terrific to see the company general rehearsal (with Magri/Corrales being a bonus) tomorrow even bearing in mind that it is not a performance and may or may not flow freely. Any work in rehearsal is still a work in progress following which there may well be notes and changes afterwards which will inform the upcoming public performances for which the company is preparing. I also have tickets for Magri/Corrales first night too. I have no doubt that the performance will have evolved from one date to the other as it does every time a dancer takes to the stage. On a more general note, being able to attend rehearsals and have a preview of the action so to speak , is, for me, one of the main benefits of being a Friend and makes the subscription more than worth the outlay. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinMM Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 SPD444—- I saw Corrales as Albrecht in Giselle which I think should fit your ‘white tight Romantic lead’ and I thought he was very good especially as was a debut in that role. So I’ve every reason to believe he will be good as the Prince in Swan Lake. Not everyone was impressed with him but I was!! I also like his partnership with Magri so am hoping for great things from them both. But as you say we shall see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPD444 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, LinMM said: SPD444—- I saw Corrales as Albrecht in Giselle which I think should fit your ‘white tight Romantic lead’ and I thought he was very good especially as was a debut in that role. So I’ve every reason to believe he will be good as the Prince in Swan Lake. Not everyone was impressed with him but I was!! I also like his partnership with Magri so am hoping for great things from them both. But as you say we shall see. I saw him more at ENB where he did the pirate/matador style roles and more recently the Akram Giselle when again he was not the Lead. I found his Romeo with Frankie a tad lacking in real emotion, compared to her with Bracewell. Mayara’s recent R&J with Calvin will take some beating as well. All these brilliant new principals at the RB is so wonderful, we are so spoilt for choice. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob S Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 11 hours ago, Dawnstar said: I know I will factually. I just won't feel like I am emotionally! I could understand that if they were having a school matinee prior to what you thought was their debut performance, or if maybe if you had a ticket for the rehearsal and didn't want your enjoyment of seeing Magri's debut lessened by seeing her in the rehearsal as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LH Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Cast list for today's General. Great to see new opportunities for some of the up-and-coming dancers. CAST Odette/Odile* MAYARA MAGRI Prince Siegfried CESAR CORRALES The Queen KRISTEN MCNALLY Von Rothbart BENNET GARTSIDE Benno CALVIN RICHARDSON Prince Siegfried’s Younger Sisters ASHLEY DEAN, SAE MAEDA ACT I Waltz and Polonaise LETICIA DIAS, ISABEL LUBACH, JULIA ROSCOE, CHARLOTTE TONKINSON, BENJAMIN ELLA, TOMAS MOCK, JOSEPH SISSENS, DAVID YUDES, ARTISTS OF THE ROYAL BALLET ACT II Cygnets MICA BRADBURY, ISABELLA GASPARINI, BOMIN KIM, AMELIA TOWNSEND Two Swans MELISSA HAMILTON, MARIKO SASAKI Swans ARTISTS OF THE ROYAL BALLET ACT III Spanish Princess ISABEL LUBACH Hungarian Princess GINA STORM-JENSEN Italian Princess YUHUI CHOE Polish Princess CHARLOTTE TONKINSON Spanish dance MICA BRADBURY, JOONHYUK JUN, HARRISON LEE, GIACOMO ROVERO, FRANCISCO SERRANO Czárdás KATHERINA NIKELSKI, LEO DIXON MADISON BAILEY, BOMIN KIM, ALIX VAN TIGGELEN, MARIANNA TSEMBENHOI, LIAM BOSWELL, JAMES LARGE, HARRISON LEE, DAICHI IKARASHI Neapolitan dance LETICIA DIAS, JOSEPH SISSENS Mazurka NADIA MULLOVA-BARLEY, DAVID DONNELLY ARTISTS OF THE ROYAL BALLET ACT IV Cygnets, Two Swans, Swans AS ACT II Court Ladies, Lieutenants, Corporals, Ladies-in-waiting, Servants, Heralds, Guards, Guests ARTISTS OF THE ROYAL BALLET and STUDENTS OF THE ROYAL BALLET SCHOOL 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Impressed to see, among others, the casting of the Sisters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob S Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Loving that cast, so pleased to see new names getting significant roles, both as mentioned in that cast list and photos from various dancers on Instagram 🙂 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmarose Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 13 hours ago, Dawnstar said: I know I will factually. I just won't feel like I am emotionally! That must be really interesting to see. I've only ever been to one rehearsal, Manon in October 2019 and as far as I can recall the cast produced a near-identical performance to the "proper" performance I saw them do a couple of weeks later, including full curtain calls. It must be more interesting, especially if it's a ballet you've seen many times before, to see a rehearsal that actually looks like a rehearsal, with parts repeated. Except you will be, factually and emotionally. The dancers will know that emotionally it's there first performance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 I just had a glance at ROH's website and it seems that Nunez is not dancing on the opening night? Haven't seen anything from her Instagram so fingers crossed she's doing well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHowarth Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Johnny said: I just had a glance at ROH's website and it seems that Nunez is not dancing on the opening night? Haven't seen anything from her Instagram so fingers crossed she's doing well... Now down as Naghdi/Muntagirov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art_enthusiast Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, RHowarth said: Now down as Naghdi/Muntagirov. I really do hope this is a mistake! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHowarth Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 They danced beautifully together at the Fonteyn gala - a marriage of pure classicism. But I do very much hope that Nunez isn't injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob S Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Not even listed as a change of cast and I've not received an email yet😲 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyTaylor Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 It says cast change now. I am very disappointed. She’s still there for Saturday though. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNC Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Oh dear I really hope not. I’m sure Naghdi/Muntagirov are an excellent combination and but I really hope to see Nunez. (And have booked to see Naghdi later in the run.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmarose Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Oh no, what's happened? I really wanted to see those two together on opening night. Such a shame. Hope it wasn't overextending doing the two DQ's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art_enthusiast Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 20 minutes ago, JNC said: Oh dear I really hope not. I’m sure Naghdi/Muntagirov are an excellent combination and but I really hope to see Nunez. (And have booked to see Naghdi later in the run.) Indeed. I may have to cancel my ticket, as I already have one for Naghdi. And no others for Nunez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oncnp Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, JNC said: Oh dear I really hope not. I’m sure Naghdi/Muntagirov are an excellent combination I saw their R&J and not sure it's worth fighting a tube strike for..... Edited February 28, 2022 by oncnp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindsay Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 can anyone else not see Swan Lake on the ROH site at all please? I have tried looking at all events, filtering and going via the Calendar View and it's not showing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oncnp Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lindsay said: can anyone else not see Swan Lake on the ROH site at all please? I have tried looking at all events, filtering and going via the Calendar View and it's not showing.... Still showing for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lindsay said: can anyone else not see Swan Lake on the ROH site at all please? I have tried looking at all events, filtering and going via the Calendar View and it's not showing.... I can still see it (using Chrome). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyTaylor Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Vadim's worth the ticket money alone, but I've decided to return my ticket as I have one for Saturday too, and hope for the best. BTW - you might wish to reinvest in Magri/Corrales 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyTaylor Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) The website filters by Spring season - but it's not obvious - that's why you can't see Swan Lake Edited February 28, 2022 by JennyTaylor typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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