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Thanks Alison,

I've taken it to the 'About' forum.

Apropos the streamings, I did my best at the outset of the first lockdown. I watched what I could, I dug out old dvds and even joined Marquee tv, but it wasn’t real and I also missed my chums in the Floral Hall, so ……

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9 hours ago, LinMM said:

I haven’t got the NHS App does anybody know how you prove you are vaccinated apart from that little blue and White card thingy you got with AstraZeneca jab?
Do you have to ask your GP to write a letter 🤔 

I’m thinking of the Albert Hall visit I have on December 1st ....want to be prepared in plenty of time lol! 
I would have no idea how you could prove it was you who had taken a lateral

flow test. Somebody I know who has to take them regularly for her job says you don’t have to photograph the result even....you just have to put in that your test was negative and you get an email or text back confirming you are negative. So a lot of this is based on trust I think.  Presumably it must be linked to your NHS number but all a bit precarious. 
When I looked up loads of theatres policies on Covid a few days back nearly all the ones requiring vaccine certification also said OR a negative test so they must realise not everybody can have the vaccine. 
Quite a few just strongly advised mask wearing while at the theatre and that was all... the Colisseum and Sadlers come under that policy. 

 

it's not the Covid tracker -  the NHS  app that gives you access to  various  things to do with your GP , if you have a  reasonably modern smart phone  i'd  recommend it  for things like getting your repeat  prescriptions , any test results  andother  Correspondance  that  you might not have recieved your own copy of ..  

apparently  GP practices do have a proforma  for peopel who want / need  paper proof of  Covid vaccination 

if your GP practice has fully  enabled it you might also be able to book appointments  via the app  ( as  you can do with the systmone  web page  if your GP is one of the many who use Systmone)

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17 hours ago, Beryl H said:

I applied online via the above NHS website and the A4 letter version arrived within 5 days, it states the details and dates of the 2 vaccinations, there is no expiry date. 

 

Yes, this is the easiest way to show your vaccination status if you can’t/don’t want to use the NHS app (which is *not* the track and trace app).  The blue cards given at the vaccination centres don’t count as proof for travel, so I suspect they won’t count at places where the “vaccine passport” is required.

 

@alison to answer your question about people unable to be vaccinated, how it works in France is that if you are not fully vaccinated, you must take a rapid antigen test within 48 hours of your visit to the theatre/museum/cinema etc.  The test result is automatically uploaded to the “Tous Anti Covid” app which produces a QR code that is scanned at the venue.   The test has to be done by a Doctor, Nurse, or at a Pharmacy (you don’t need an appointment at the latter), is free for French residents with a social security card, or is a fixed price of €25 for non-residents.  

 

France is obviously much stricter than the UK though so I would guess that with an official statement of exemption from the vaccine, someone unable to be vaccinated could probably still attend the theatre here.

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On 06/09/2021 at 14:36, LinMM said:

I haven’t got the NHS App does anybody know how you prove you are vaccinated apart from that little blue and White card thingy you got with AstraZeneca jab?
Do you have to ask your GP to write a letter 🤔 

I’m thinking of the Albert Hall visit I have on December 1st ....want to be prepared in plenty of time lol! 
I would have no idea how you could prove it was you who had taken a lateral

flow test. Somebody I know who has to take them regularly for her job says you don’t have to photograph the result even....you just have to put in that your test was negative and you get an email or text back confirming you are negative. So a lot of this is based on trust I think.  Presumably it must be linked to your NHS number but all a bit precarious. 
When I looked up loads of theatres policies on Covid a few days back nearly all the ones requiring vaccine certification also said OR a negative test so they must realise not everybody can have the vaccine. 
Quite a few just strongly advised mask wearing while at the theatre and that was all... the Colisseum and Sadlers come under that policy. 

 

 For entry to venues/ travel you’re not  meant to use the government tests, I think you have to obtain a private test and they have different methods of reporting and verifying. Have heard of sending a picture/ doing them at the venue so the actual method may vary. 
the government ones are just for surveillance and they were phasing them out for the general public although I’m not sure whether that will happen or not now

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2 hours ago, Peony said:

 For entry to venues/ travel you’re not  meant to use the government tests, I think you have to obtain a private test and they have different methods of reporting and verifying. Have heard of sending a picture/ doing them at the venue so the actual method may vary. 
the government ones are just for surveillance and they were phasing them out for the general public although I’m not sure whether that will happen or not now

 

I didn't know this - thought it was just foreign travel you're not supposed to use the free tests for.

 

That said, a test hasn't been a requirement of anywhere I've been yet so 🤷🏻‍♀️.

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6 hours ago, Peony said:

 For entry to venues/ travel you’re not  meant to use the government tests, I think you have to obtain a private test and they have different methods of reporting and verifying.

 

Every "venue" I've been to has asked for standard lateral flow tests - although I think these could be subject to abuse.

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14 hours ago, Peony said:

 For entry to venues/ travel you’re not  meant to use the government tests, I think you have to obtain a private test and they have different methods of reporting and verifying. Have heard of sending a picture/ doing them at the venue so the actual method may vary. 
the government ones are just for surveillance and they were phasing them out for the general public although I’m not sure whether that will happen or not now


If you had to use private tests for entry to venues, the relevant industries would collapse. Of course you can use an NHS LFT for entry to venues. You can’t use them for foreign travel.

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However he did say whilst not going ahead now they will be “keeping it in reserve as a potential option“ 

So that probably means in another months time lol!! You can’t really trust anything they say to be honest. 
 

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1 minute ago, LinMM said:

However he did say whilst not going ahead now they will be “keeping it in reserve as a potential option“ 

So that probably means in another months time lol!! You can’t really trust anything they say to be honest. 
 

 

So many u-turns from the Government on this issue, it's really quite ridiculous. I have the upmost sympathy for anyone involved in running or working in an 'entertainment venue'. The Government is just making a pretty dire situation much worse. 

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18 hours ago, Peony said:

 For entry to venues/ travel you’re not  meant to use the government tests, I think you have to obtain a private test and they have different methods of reporting and verifying. Have heard of sending a picture/ doing them at the venue so the actual method may vary. 
the government ones are just for surveillance and they were phasing them out for the general public although I’m not sure whether that will happen or not now

travel - where PCR  is   required that has to be private 

LFTs  still freely available from community pharmacies AFAIK  and even when the ccollect code thing comes in no news on charges  - and of course  school / college / workplace LFT supply  remains in place 

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/testing/regular-rapid-coronavirus-tests-if-you-do-not-have-symptoms/

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7 hours ago, Peony said:

The date given for stopping supplies of LFTs was the end of September, haven’t hear anything about it recently. Still time for several U turns!

i think the 'collect code' for  Pharmacy supplied LFTs is  part of the U turn  on  supply - although not sure  whether that means they will  be cuttign peopel off who don;t  actually   submit results ? or  if  it;s just to try and stop them being gizzits

 

 

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I've just applied for my official vaccine letter thanks to Richards link. Really very easy to do. The most difficult thing was finding which vaccine related part of the website I needed. As the government say it won't be necessary now I'm sure I'll need it sometime soon. 

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Just had an email from Sarasota Ballet about their Covid restrictions for live performances.

So they're going ahead with vaccine passports.

 

Effective September 26th, 2021, we will uniformly implement the following policy:

  • all patrons aged 12 and older must show either:
    • a negative PCR COVID-19 test administered by a medical provider or official testing center no earlier than 72 hours before the time of our performance, or
    • a negative rapid antigen COVID-19 test administered by a medical professional or official testing center no earlier than 24 hours prior to the time of our performance. Home testing kit results will not be accepted for entry.
  • If patrons prefer, CDC or an other official vaccination record showing patrons are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 (at least 14 days since the final dose) may be voluntarily presented at the door as an acceptable alternative to negative COVID-19 test results.
  • Both physical and electronic presentation of documents will be accepted. Photo identification must accompany the presentation of all documents.
  • All patrons over age 5, regardless of vaccination or testing status, must wear masks over their nose and mouth at all times while inside the venue

Details may be revised based on CDC guidance and the evolving circumstances of the pandemic.

 

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36 minutes ago, jmhopton said:

Just had an email from Sarasota Ballet about their Covid restrictions for live performances.

So they're going ahead with vaccine passports.

 

That's only one option, though.  You can still get in on a negative test result - which is how it should be - just one more securely administered than in the UK, which, as I've indicated earlier, could be faked, as self-reported.

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I read that the metropolitan opera house have banned all unvaccinated people. If you can’t have a vaccine it’s tough, including all children under 12 who have no option of a vaccine. At least the Sarasota ballet seem to be a bit more reasonable!

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I’m sat in the Theatre Royal, Bath watching The Dresser. Every single person sat round me was mask free during the first half, then virtually all of them put on a mask to go and get an ice cream in the foyer. 🤦🏻‍♂️

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50 minutes ago, alison said:

I thought those were the rules - mask while you're walking about, then take it off once you get to your seat?  Mind you, what do I know?  I tend to keep mine on most of the time regardless.

 

From the ROH

 

Out of consideration for those around you, please wear a face covering at all times, unless exempt for medical reasons.

 

Visit us (roh.org.uk)

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From the email we all got a day or two before the performance 

 

Our staff members will continue to wear face masks when welcoming our audiences and members of the public. We encourage audience members to join us in doing the same when moving around the building and when seated in the auditorium.


 

There were signs saying to wear a mask in the corridor between foyer and auditorium but no announcements. 

In my area of the auditorium (Stalls aisle seat) only the two people behind me decided to go with that encouragement 

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43 minutes ago, Rob S said:

From the email we all got a day or two before the performance 

 

Our staff members will continue to wear face masks when welcoming our audiences and members of the public. We encourage audience members to join us in doing the same when moving around the building and when seated in the auditorium.


 

There were signs saying to wear a mask in the corridor between foyer and auditorium but no announcements. 

In my area of the auditorium (Stalls aisle seat) only the two people behind me decided to go with that encouragement 

 

Was at the opening performance of opera season on 13th September and have to say the vast majority of people were exercising their 'new freedoms' and not wearing masks, at least in the Amphi.  Spoke to one FOH member who - when asked about her feelings - said she felt 'distinctly unsafe'.  

 

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