theballerinapointe Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Do you know how many people get in for year 10 (fourth form)? What are the auditions like? Do they look for students who are already really well trained or do they look for potential as well? Thanks xx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Hello, theballerinapointe. I can't help with your question, but welcome to the forum. If you use the search facility there may be some threads already on the subject of auditions for post year 7 places, but if not I am sure someone will be able to help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancergirl24 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 i auditioned for year 10 entry last year. Tring looked more at talent already where as hammond took potential more into consideration.i know 3 people got accepted into hammond foryear 10 and atleast 2 for tring not excatly how many for tring but qs i said atleast 2 it just depends in your abilty and potenial if they want you they will make space. any more questions hapoy to help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancergirl24 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 sorry the auditions were a basic ballet and jazz class for both plus solos. trings ballet was harder than hammonds. you need to be able to pick up things quite quickly. but dont worry to much i messed up my tring auidtion hurting my ankle 10 mintues in and then messing up all the center work but the teachers were lovley and helped you as much as they could. both ballet classes were bar work then just basic center work plus strechtes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi4ballet Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I think it might also very much depend on how many leavers they have (either going elsewhere through choice or being assessed out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justamum Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Hammond are assessing out starting this year. But I must also say that the current year 9 is very strong from what I have seen of them. Others have tried to join this year group without success, and not sure if one or two did join this year group. Class sizes seem to differ quite a bit, and the current year eleven is enormous, whilst year 10 is very small indeed. Also you must consider the GCSE options at Vocational schools as they do not offer a great selection of subjects and the pupils normally only take a total of 8 GCSE's. Best wishes to all auditioning. Â Jx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulip Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 In defense of vocational school accademics, considering my daughter only did half day accademics at Tring, she still came out with six As and three Bs. These subjects were pure accademic subjects eg sciences, maths etc. At Tring the accademics are excellent and the day seems to be very well balanced. Any vocational activities are NOT allowed to take place during accademics. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheila Beelam Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Great achievement Tulip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regattah Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Yes, the assessments take place on Tuesday and Wednesday of this week and from the sounds if it the children are getting rather stressed. It's not a pleasant experience for them to go through! Â Thanks for your comments regarding the standard of the year, Justamum, it's very nice to hear it from an unbiased parent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picturesinthefirelight Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Dd has decided not to audition for Hammond and has been offered a place at a selective academic school  She will only take 9 (or 10 depending on double or triple science) GCSE's as the school feel that's all they need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi4ballet Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Someone mentioned to me the other day that Tring has the best academic results of the 'big 4' according to government league tables of independent schools. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justamum Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I would like to point out that I did not , nor was it my intention to judge the quality of the teaching at any of the schools. So really there was no need to defend Tring as they were not accused. I was making the point that at Vocational School, pupils did not have the choice of subjects that would be on offer at other mainstream schools. J x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdance Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I know a very talented young dancer who actually left her vocational school for sixth form having been there since yr 7, despite getting a funded place into the sixth form, because of the limited range of A-levels on offer and the prospects later in her career. She carried on her dance training at her old dance school, went to a good sixth form and took 4 A levels, and is now at Laine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theballerinapointe Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 Do you know approx how many people apply for year 10 at tring, hammond and elmhurst? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I would like to point out that I did not , nor was it my intention to judge the quality of the teaching at any of the schools. So really there was no need to defend Tring as they were not accused. I was making the point that at Vocational School, pupils did not have the choice of subjects that would be on offer at other mainstream schools. J x  You are right regarding the choice of subjects, Justamum. Dd decided not to audition for a year 10 place at Vocational school as she wants to take her GCSEs at her current school, including Russian. Her plan at the moment is to take 12! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picturesinthefirelight Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Mind you choices can be just as limited at academic schools. Â The school dd will go to does not offer either gcse or a level dance or theatre studies, only music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Â From what my yr7 dd has said, the assessments for them seem quite unpressured. They seem very well prepared and dd is very clear about what they need to do. Hopefully this will help them do their best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi4ballet Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I would like to point out that I did not , nor was it my intention to judge the quality of the teaching at any of the schools. So really there was no need to defend Tring as they were not accused. I was making the point that at Vocational School, pupils did not have the choice of subjects that would be on offer at other mainstream schools. J x  Hi, no, I wasn't rushing to their defence or anything like that! It's just that someone mentioned the league tables to me the other day, and I though people might be interested in the information 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoobydigger Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Yes, the assessments take place on Tuesday and Wednesday of this week and from the sounds if it the children are getting rather stressed. It's not a pleasant experience for them to go through! Â Thanks for your comments regarding the standard of the year, Justamum, it's very nice to hear it from an unbiased parent! Â Wow, sorry .... playing dum here ... lol - I didnt realise Hammond didn't Asses Out ..... Not having my DD there i wasnt any the wiser .... If it is happening now I think it is rather early ..... they only started in Sept bless them x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulip Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Hi justamum, I know you were not having a go at any of the teaching at any vocational schools and I only mentioned Tring, because that is where my daughter used to go. I must say though at Tring they do actually cover an awful lot of subjects, which was one of the reasons why my husband was happy for our daughter to go there. Â Tring do not assess out, but they can reccomend a student to move accross to the musical theatre side of things. It has also been known for MDS funding to be removed from a student who may not be progressing as well as was hoped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regattah Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Hoobydigger, Hammond has put in place a more structured way of assessing out than it has in the past. Â It is the year 9's, as mentioned earlier in the thread, that are being considered most carefully for assessing out. They've been there considerably longer than since September in most cases! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justamum Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Hi Tulip. If someone moves from Classical over to Musical theatre at Tring, and they can't afford the funding if the MDS is taken away, then surely that's just another way of saying nicely that they were assessed out? Sorry if I'm wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoobydigger Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Regattah : I had no idea ??? Have had a txt frm my friend - her DD Auditioned today at Hammond for a yr9 place - she felt it went well .... Will just have to wait and see .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regattah Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) As I say, it's very new so I'm sure not many people do know. But I've said on another thread that I don't believe that students will be assessed out often. I personally think that the school is putting in place a mechanism which they can use if ever needed for (extreme?) cases. Â I hope your friend's daughter had a good day! Four new children - 2 girls, 2 boys - started year 9 this year. They were additional to those already there (my own daughter started last year in year 8 having moved from Tring) and weren't replacing leavers. One boy left during the course of year 8 but I believe he was the only one. Edited November 26, 2012 by Regattah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulip Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I think you are right justamum. If you can't afford £27,000+ a year without funding then you have to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All4dancers Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 My dd auditioned for the Hammond today and also felt it went very well. They were very open about assessing out in yr9. They also said they didn't have a specific number in mind for each year group and although the girls boarding house is very full, they would fit people in if they were allocated a place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAIRBELLES Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Wow, sorry .... playing dum here ... lol - I didnt realise Hammond didn't Asses Out ..... Not having my DD there i wasnt any the wiser .... If it is happening now I think it is rather early ..... they only started in Sept bless them x  Yes the assessments this year are early,they usually take place around february,the children then put on a performance entitled Work in Progress.Every two years The Hammond stage a full scale MT show involving yrs9-11 and apparently this is why it has been brouight forward. I agree year 9 is a very strong year......Hammond have always assessed the children but not as rigourous as RBS or Elmhurst and for the first time yr11 are being assessed.I presume for their suitability to carry on into Upper School.  Although it was around 6 yrs ago when we visited Tring my husband was very impressed with their attitude to the academic side of the school.  I firmly believe my elder DD will achieve better results than she would have done at our local school. I know the education at vocational school comes at a price and some of my friends would expect my DD's to finish with a fistfull of qualifications because they've been to "private" school but as I tell them it is an independent education where the children are selected for their talent in dancing and not academic excellence.  Wow spannerandpony Russian! That could be more useful than french or conversational spanish.....as ever my ballet brain thought process The Bolshoi perhaps 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna C Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Yes, dd loves languages and chose Russian over Spanish or Italian as her 3rd language. She's really enjoying it so far! :-) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justamum Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 When my DD joined Hammond 4 1/2 years ago they had the best academic results from the 4 vocational schools, and this did sway me at the time when looking for places at the schools. But this I suppose will change year on year depending on the ability of the pupils. Russian ! Wow ! Jx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomuchtallent Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Hairbelles,do the yr7 get to perform in the MT show? Do the younger ones get to do much in any of the shows? Spannerandpony, my dd is studying Russian also, luck for her that she could start at our school when she was 6,she loves it and has many Russian friends and teachers to practice with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justamum Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 The MT is for year 9 and up. Unless there are a few roles for the younger ones like Gavroche or young Cosette, in Les Mis. Jx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picturesinthefirelight Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Straying off topic I'm looking forward to seeing next years Hammond MT show. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justamum Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 I believe it's Phantom of the Opera. Must admit that the head of Music - Mr Williams is awsome. The children love him to bits. Jx 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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