capybara 11,761 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rob S said: Can the dancers still rehearse in Tier 3? They did in lockdown. But rehearsing for what? Especially hard for the debutantes, including some unannounced except by the individuals themselves - like Leticia Dias, an Artist due to Dance the Rose Fairy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
zxDaveM 7,243 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 so tier 3 it is from Wed 00.01am (I assume Tuesday evening show will still be ok - yes?). And then we can all go Christmas loopy again from the 23rd to 27th, then back to tier 3 (probably)... Bah humbug! 3 Link to post Share on other sites
zxDaveM 7,243 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 fingers, toes, knees, hip joints all crossed for the relay on the 22nd... 2 Link to post Share on other sites
oncnp 908 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, zxDaveM said: fingers, toes, knees, hip joints all crossed for the relay on the 22nd... Should be OK as long as there is no non-RB audience. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
capybara 11,761 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, zxDaveM said: so tier 3 it is from Wed 00.01am (I assume Tuesday evening show will still be ok - yes?). And then we can all go Christmas loopy again from the 23rd to 27th, then back to tier 3 (probably)... Bah humbug! We don’t go out of Tier 3, Dave. The bubbles are a concession within the Tiers. Now we have a new variant of the virus circulating as well. I Edited December 14, 2020 by capybara Link to post Share on other sites
alison 13,014 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 It's so sickening. The companies have leapt through every single hoop the government has put in their way, revised all their working practices, tried to think outside the box so they can do something, anything to keep being relevant during all this, and now this I feel so sorry for them, and for everyone else who actually dared to think that they might actually be able to earn some money/keep their business in operation in the run-up to Christmas I know it's necessary, but ... 10 Link to post Share on other sites
alison 13,014 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, zxDaveM said: And then we can all go Christmas loopy again from the 23rd to 27th, then back to tier 3 (probably)... Don't you mean full lockdown? Link to post Share on other sites
Jan McNulty 20,958 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 But it's not the theatre itself is it - it's the getting there and back... Having seen photographs on the internet over the past few days I am not surprised. People were crammed into Oxford Street and around Knightsbridge and Covent Garden as though it was a normal Saturday in December. I didn't see too many of them wearing masks in the photographs despite the crowding. The Liverpool Echo published a full list of how Covid19 is affecting the whole of England and it is salutary reading for the South East. The tougher restrictions in the Liverpool City Region have helped this area Covid-wise, unpalatable though they were. https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/covid-cases-england-surge-full-19452299 I fell desperately sorry for the dancers who have been working so hard and desperately sorry for the people who will now miss their fix of live ballet but surely it is better safe than sorry. 8 Link to post Share on other sites
oncnp 908 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 38 minutes ago, zxDaveM said: so tier 3 it is from Wed 00.01am (I assume Tuesday evening show will still be ok - yes?). And then we can all go Christmas loopy again from the 23rd to 27th, then back to tier 3 (probably)... Bah humbug! Next review will be on the 23rd - they are going to weekly review v. q 2 weeks Link to post Share on other sites
Jan McNulty 20,958 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, oncnp said: Next review will be on the 23rd - they are going to weekly review v. q 2 weeks There must be grave concerns because the review has been brought forward from 16th. Link to post Share on other sites
oncnp 908 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, Jan McNulty said: There must be grave concerns because the review has been brought forward from 16th. I think "exploding" was one of the terms used. Link to post Share on other sites
Peony 359 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Elite sports are allowed in tier 3 so I think they should be able to rehearse. I hadn’t got my hopes up too high but I’m still so disappointed, on a personal level and for the company. I think there might be an old nutcracker on at the cinema soon that will have to do! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
oncnp 908 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Peony said: I think there might be an old nutcracker on at the cinema soon that will have to do! Won't the cinemas have to close as well? (indoor entertainment?) Link to post Share on other sites
Peony 359 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 No because we are in tier 2 at home they are still allowed (for now!) 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Blossom 727 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, oncnp said: The Christmas "grace period" 23-27 Dec is apparently not affected. I can't remember what those rules were but perhaps those performances can go ahead? 1 hour ago, oncnp said: They did before so hopefully can continue I've seen no data on this but theatres have to be one of the safest places around with all the checks and distancing, Don't suppose they could make an exception? Starting to wonder how they can possibly allow the Christmas grace period - it's only going to make matters worse than they are now. Agree that to some extent theatres should be given some grace. Can't speak for the Coliseum, but generally feel very safe at the ROH with the majority of people complying properly i.e. mask over mouth AND nose - uncomfortable for all of us especially glasses wearers, but for the greater good. On that note, felt compelled to report a local shop today for complete disregard of mask wearing rules. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Justkeepsmiling 27 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Devastated for all the dancers and performers! With a dd at vocational upper school I do worry what the future holds 😭 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Rob S 2,759 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just seen shops will remain open, so the pics of very busy Oxford/Regent Street can continue 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jan McNulty 20,958 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Rob S said: Just seen shops will remain open, so the pics of very busy Oxford/Regent Street can continue What a farce. I'm am sure that theatres and restaurants have far more measures in place to make them safe. How does keeping non-essential shops open help? It will just continue to encourage the Christmas shoppers! 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Fonty 3,971 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rob S said: Just seen shops will remain open, so the pics of very busy Oxford/Regent Street can continue What is the point of this new lock down then? I have read in several places that the most effective way to combat the virus is to wear face masks when we are out and about, maintain a 2m distance from everyone else, and wash our hands regularly. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
alison 13,014 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Well, that is what they've been telling us for the last 6 months or so ... Just appears that some (quite a lot of) people have comprehension issues. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Fonty 3,971 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, alison said: Well, that is what they've been telling us for the last 6 months or so ... Just appears that some (quite a lot of) people have comprehension issues. Indeed. It is not difficult to comply, people just don't think the rules apply to them. I was working in Hampstead over the weekend, and nobody seemed to be obeying the 2m rule. I had to step into the road repeatedly to avoid coming too close, especially as there were so many couples or families walking two, three or even four abreast. 😠 2 Link to post Share on other sites
MJW 543 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Blossom said: Starting to wonder how they can possibly allow the Christmas grace period - it's only going to make matters worse than they are now. Agree that to some extent theatres should be given some grace. Can't speak for the Coliseum, but generally feel very safe at the ROH with the majority of people complying properly i.e. mask over mouth AND nose - uncomfortable for all of us especially glasses wearers, but for the greater good. On that note, felt compelled to report a local shop today for complete disregard of mask wearing rules. To quote James Kirkup in the Spectator [re the easing of restrictions next week even in Tier 3 areas] "The sheer inconsistency and gaping lack of logic borders on black comedy." 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Silke H 43 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 ROH website for Nutcracker tickets now states: "Due to London's move to Tier 3, it is with sadness that we must cancel the scheduled performances of The Nutcracker from 16–24 December for live audiences. We are pleased to livestream a performance on Tuesday 22 December." 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Blossom 727 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Silke H said: ROH website for Nutcracker tickets now states: "Due to London's move to Tier 3, it is with sadness that we must cancel the scheduled performances of The Nutcracker from 16–24 December for live audiences. We are pleased to livestream a performance on Tuesday 22 December." Devastated for the dancers but very grateful to have booked tickets for tomorrow night. I'd originally planned for 16th but was finding it harder to find the seats I wanted. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ivy Lin 519 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Here in the U.S. the virus is ripping through every single state and yet I know people whose family members DIED of the virus who refuse to wear masks, watch their hands, or stop crowding into restaurants and bars. It's madness. The lockdowns are basically for people who can't follow the rules 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Peony 359 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 We’ve sent all the kids back to school with no extra money for cleaning or soap and no social distancing. Now 1 in 50 of the pupils in secondary schools have covid. So we can’t really blame our problems just on people not following the rules! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
oncnp 908 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) Things found while looking for other things..... Interesting Twitter exchange between @GWDanceWriter (arguing for closure) and various ballet folks (arguing against) https://twitter.com/GWDanceWriter Edited December 14, 2020 by oncnp Link to post Share on other sites
LinMM 7,379 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Absolutely agree Peony. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Shirley 147 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Peony said: We’ve sent all the kids back to school with no extra money for cleaning or soap and no social distancing. Now 1 in 50 of the pupils in secondary schools have covid. So we can’t really blame our problems just on people not following the rules! As someone whose partner is a school caretaker that is certainly not true where he works. They have installed washing stations outside buildings, dispensers everywhere and social distancing is adhered to in school. On the way to and going home from school is a completely different matter for so many of the students though where the idea of social distancing completely disappears 😉 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Peony 359 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 They’re sitting shoulder to shoulder in all our local (state) schools around here because they don’t fit in any other way. Unfortunately no distancing whatsoever. They are separate from other year groups but the year group ‘bubble’ of 200 don’t and can’t distance, it’s a joke when you compare it to the rules about space in my workplace. They have extra sinks but we’’re on the second whip round for soap and gel supplies as they weren’t given any extra funding for supplies. It’s all very frustrating as it’s driving the infection rate up and then we have to close our theatres and businesses again! Link to post Share on other sites
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