DanJL Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 36 minutes ago, JohnS said: I’m still hoping that a live streaming decision on Nutcracker hasn’t yet been taken and there remains a chance that one will get the go ahead. 22 December still shows cameras. I must stress this is my hope - I have no information and had rather thought from previous posts that a live streaming had been officially announced although I’ve not seen anything. There was a comment on the Royal Opera House Instagram page a week or so ago asking if it would be streamed and the reply was positive. I think that's the closest there's been to an announcement. Sounds promising but it's always possible this reply came before details were worked through. I also recommend watching the BRB streaming, but I'm greedy enough to be crossing fingers for a streaming of the wonderful cast on the filmed ROH performance too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 13 hours ago, balletyas said: Yes very exciting but would be such a treat to see this cast streamed - why else would it be saying filming on the website I wonder? praying for a late announcement.. Damned with faint praise. OK let's get the elephant out in the room - I absolutely loathe SPW's production of the Nutcracker for the Royal Ballet whereas his production for BRB is the best bar none! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balletyas Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 35 minutes ago, Jan McNulty said: Damned with faint praise. OK let's get the elephant out in the room - I absolutely loathe SPW's production of the Nutcracker for the Royal Ballet whereas his production for BRB is the best bar none! Absolutely no damming intended! Just the hasty words of an ROH regular unfamiliar with the BRB dancers or the production...I will look forward to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, balletyas said: Absolutely no damming intended! Just the hasty words of an ROH regular unfamiliar with the BRB dancers or the production...I will look forward to it! I don't know how it will have been translated to the much smaller stage at the Birmingham Rep but it's a gorgeous production and the cast is top notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 43 minutes ago, Jan McNulty said: Damned with faint praise. OK let's get the elephant out in the room - I absolutely loathe SPW's production of the Nutcracker for the Royal Ballet whereas his production for BRB is the best bar none! I agree that SPW’s Birmingham production is the best available here by far. However, the adaptation for the RAH does not ‘do it’ for me at all. Unfortunately, that is the version BRB will be streaming/filming on the 18th December. But I have still bought a ticket to view at my leisure because I want to support the company. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeannette Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jan McNulty said: Damned with faint praise. OK let's get the elephant out in the room - I absolutely loathe SPW's production of the Nutcracker for the Royal Ballet whereas his production for BRB is the best bar none! I loved his initial RB version in 1985...thank goodness that we still have that DVD with Collier/Dowell! I loved the pale tone of the diverts...a real unity of design. I loved the purity of the RJWiley Stepanov-note reconstructed passages. That remains my gold standard production of Nut, anywhere on earth...but it no longer exists. (I love how Berlin incorporates the original Imperial designs...but the steps are NOT the 1892 ones.) I also love SPW’s 1990s version for the BRB. It was more modern & painterly design...and the interjection of Clara in the diverts makes sense, as this was no attempt to recreate the Imperial Mariinsky version. Then things got muddled... My problem came around 2000 when SPW “mucked up” the Snow Scene and all of A2 with over-participation of Clara & the Nephew...AND the gorgeous A2 “White Kingdom” design was darkened, with too much color and trees in the background. Darker colors on the costumes...no Major Domo...no pulling of Sugar Plum Fairy across the stage on a piece of silk. It’s almost as if SPW chose to remove &replace the bits that were researched by RJWiley. Don't get me wrong. I still love the RB production, especially A1’s rich details. Also, I love seeing new dancers in the leading roles. Edited December 5, 2020 by Jeannette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 I’m very much looking forward to BRB’s live streaming given what’s been said in recent posts and also last year when I didn’t quite make a trip to Birmingham but at least got found to checking tickets/trains etc. I have to say I find the Royal Ballet’s Nutcracker fabulous because it is so very much Clara’s ballet and the ending, with Clara’s recognition of what has happened, has for so many years marked the start of Christmas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanJL Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Yes, I love both SPW versions for different reasons, but there is something I find very satisfying about the narrative in the RB version. Especially in contrast to some of the other versions I've seen. As an example, I just watched the San Francisco Ballet version on DVD for the first time and couldn't quite work out why the sugar plum fairy danced with the flowers (like the Rose Fairy in the RB version) and Clara transformed into a third ballerina for the grand pas de deux. Perhaps this is an extreme example, but the RB story seems very neat in comparison! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Perregrino Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 On 05/12/2020 at 09:36, capybara said: I agree that SPW’s Birmingham production is the best available here by far. However, the adaptation for the RAH does not ‘do it’ for me at all. Unfortunately, that is the version BRB will be streaming/filming on the 18th December. But I have still bought a ticket to view at my leisure because I want to support the company. I hope I’m proven wrong but my reading of BRB website is that either I can buy a ticket to see the live stream on 18/12 or I can buy a ticket to watch on demand for a period of three consecutive days between 19/12 and 24/12 that kicks in from my first viewing. Buying a ticket for the live stream on 18/12 wouldn’t appear to allow me to watch again on demand. As I say, I hope I’m wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 26 minutes ago, prs59 said: I hope I’m proven wrong but my reading of BRB website is that either I can buy a ticket to see the live stream on 18/12 or I can buy a ticket to watch on demand for a period of three consecutive days between 19/12 and 24/12 that kicks in from my first viewing. Buying a ticket for the live stream on 18/12 wouldn’t appear to allow me to watch again on demand. As I say, I hope I’m wrong. That's my interpretation too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oncnp Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) The ROH has posted the running times. Claire Calvert said on IG this AM there had been "a few cuts and changes " Approximate running times: Act I: 45 minutes Interval: 30 minutes Act II: 40 minutes Edited December 7, 2020 by oncnp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 What does one do in a 30-minute interval in these circumstances (apart from taking the children to the loo?) Are you expected to stay in your seats apart from that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangorballetboy Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, alison said: What does one do in a 30-minute interval in these circumstances (apart from taking the children to the loo?) Are you expected to stay in your seats apart from that? Last time I was there we were allowed into the Floral Hall provided physical distancing was maintained. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeannette Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Sorry for an off-topic (but related) pause: I can’t help but beam with joy as I have my morning coffee in front of the TV now, in which the roll-out of the COVID vaccine in the UK is featured. Wow, those are my UK ballet friends! 🥳 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peony Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Only for care homes and the over 80e in hospital but hopefully Pfizer will find us a few more soon! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJW Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 hours ago, alison said: What does one do in a 30-minute interval in these circumstances (apart from taking the children to the loo?) Are you expected to stay in your seats apart from that? Really glad you asked that as I have been wondering that myself. Possibly very long queues for the lavatory! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peony Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 38 minutes ago, MJW said: Really glad you asked that as I have been wondering that myself. Possibly very long queues for the lavatory! can you still order drinks via the app? With reduced capacity there would be plenty of room to spread out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oncnp Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Peony said: can you still order drinks via the app? With reduced capacity there would be plenty of room to spread out Website says catering still closed but that could change before Friday. They could certainly use the revenue. Edited December 7, 2020 by oncnp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Peony said: can you still order drinks via the app? With reduced capacity there would be plenty of room to spread out Re catering arrangements, the following was in a recent Friends' email: "We are delighted to announce that the Piazza Terrace and Restaurant will be open around December performances. There are two and three-course menus from which to choose. We are also offering a children's menu, featuring such delights as potato gnocchi and vanilla cheesecake. Watch out for the email to ticket holders that will be sent next week. We encourage you to book quickly as we have limited capacity. Sadly due to Covid restrictions, we are unable to provide services in any of our other bars or restaurants." However there's no mention of ordering drinks via the app. Presumably it won't be possible if the bars are closed. Edited December 7, 2020 by Bluebird 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oncnp Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Re: streaming I e-mailed the Box Office (asking to be put out of my misery) and the lovely gentleman, who must have the most thankless job at the ROH replied Hopefully your misery will end this week! Stay tuned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peony Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Bluebird said: Re catering arrangements, the following was in a recent Friends' email: "We are delighted to announce that the Piazza Terrace and Restaurant will be open around December performances. There are two and three-course menus from which to choose. We are also offering a children's menu, featuring such delights as potato gnocchi and vanilla cheesecake. Watch out for the email to ticket holders that will be sent next week. We encourage you to book quickly as we have limited capacity. Sadly due to Covid restrictions, we are unable to provide services in any of our other bars or restaurants." However there's no mention of ordering drinks via the app. Presumably it won't be possible if the bars are closed. thanks very much for the info! I think everyone else must have very sophisticated children who like gnocchi etc. Mine is definitely more chicken nuggets and chips... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LH Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 hours ago, MJW said: Really glad you asked that as I have been wondering that myself. Possibly very long queues for the lavatory! It was fine at the "Royal Ballet: Live — Within the Golden Hour" on 11 November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 A private performance, was it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxDaveM Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 6 hours ago, oncnp said: The ROH has posted the running times. Claire Calvert said on IG this AM there had been "a few cuts and changes " Approximate running times: Act I: 45 minutes Interval: 30 minutes Act II: 40 minutes So apart from the interval which is the same length, they have cut approx 5mins from Act 1, and 10mins from Act 2 (give or take). Now I'm wondering which bits been chopped (10mins from Act 2 would hint at the Rose Fairy waltz, with all that lifting between lead flowers and cavaliers, and Rose herself. Utterly idle speculation, I hasten to add!! 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oncnp Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 If you are looking for 1 or 2 tickets to virtually any performance many seem to have appeared on the website just now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, oncnp said: If you are looking for 1 or 2 tickets to virtually any performance many seem to have appeared on the website just now Well yes - but it seems that the stated availability doesn't necessarily match the actual availability once you try and book (at least for a single ticket - maybe 2s are better). Or at least the info is rather misleading - you may be able to get a single ticket but only at £95/£100! Edited December 7, 2020 by bridiem Removed speculative comment and added explanatory sentence 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I'm starting to wonder whether their poor software isn't capable of blocking out the necessary seats around sold ones (and why should it be?) and the necessary adjustments are having to be made manually (if so, pity the poor operators!). That would explain the "phased release" of tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oncnp Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, alison said: I'm starting to wonder whether their poor software isn't capable of blocking out the necessary seats around sold ones (and why should it be?) and the necessary adjustments are having to be made manually (if so, pity the poor operators!). That would explain the "phased release" of tickets. I would have thought they would have known in advance and mapped out every seat they had to sell based on capacity and distancing requirements (which haven't changed). Since the house was sold out within hours are these additional seats being released or a lot of returns? Edited December 7, 2020 by oncnp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Maybe they are re-configuring in order to accommodate more groups or something. Either way, they need to beware of creating an impression of squashing in extra places when that surely cannot be the case. As to refreshments. I’m really surprised that, when so many of the shows finish around 4.00pm, they are not offering a ‘Christmas Tea’ option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alison Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I wasn't sure quite how the groups worked, and whether they'd blocked them all out e.g. as groups of 6, and were adjusting them downwards if people didn't want that many, hence more singles and doubles coming online. I'm sure they'll all be appropriately distanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LH Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Richard LH said: It was fine at the "Royal Ballet: Live — Within the Golden Hour" on 11 November. Sorry of course I meant interval queries were fine at the "Elite" programme on 4th November...brain suffering from lockdown confusion...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Re seats appearing - with both NB in Leeds and BRB at the Rep seats kept reappearing as though the theatres were "manually" adjusting seating and found they could release more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LH Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 30 minutes ago, Richard LH said: Sorry of course I meant interval queries were fine at the "Elite" programme on 4th November...brain suffering from lockdown confusion...! Interval QUEUES.....I really must take more care when posting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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