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1 minute ago, PetitJeté said:

I just want to say it’s so helpful to hear on here the other perspectives on this. I was a dancer, albeit not for long, so I do understand a lot of this, but it’s still easy to get blinkered into thinking a yes or no for WL is make or break, so thank you. Deep down I didn’t want to send her off boarding, and she’s so close to her sister, I was really worried about the potential impact on her too. 

That’s ok, it is important to share both perspectives. In this moment in time reading that no letter may feel like a heartbreak for families and dc but actually may be at your dd’s advantage in the long run. and I agree it’s so easy to be blinkered. Dd hated  boarding was very homesick just wasn’t for her. If I’ve helped at least one family today that’s all that matters. 

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15 minutes ago, Glissé said:

That’s ok, it is important to share both perspectives. In this moment in time reading that no letter may feel like a heartbreak for families and dc but actually may be at your dd’s advantage in the long run. and I agree it’s so easy to be blinkered. Dd hated  boarding was very homesick just wasn’t for her. If I’ve helped at least one family today that’s all that matters. 

Thank you so much 

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Congratulations to all those with a yes - I’ll offer more perspective  for those feeling bruised today.

DD didn’t go away at 11 - she wasn’t even an associate at that point , knew nothing of WL or anywhere else. In year 11 she had multiple offers for Upper Schools  both in the UK and abroad (she still didn’t become a ballerina) 

Enjoy having your DC at home for as long as possible - these are years that you can’t get back - going away at 11 can take a toll -  vocational school is a stepping stone , not an end goal ; there are many routes that can lead to a career in dance . 

Good luck and best wishes to all of you and your DC .

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Sadly, a 'no' for DD.  Haven't spoken to her yet (she wouldn't expect an answer till next week or so anyway).  Just need time to process it myself first, grieve over it in a way, so that not to become emotional when breaking the disappointing news to her...  It was just this one shot for her.  We couldn't apply anywhere else, as she can't be a boarding student.  Neither can we afford a self-funded route to vocational training. Oh, well...   

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Congratulations to all! 
 

Now for the awkward part, we were informed that there would be alternative final audition arrangements made for those who were unable to attend in person and that this would take place after April 4.  But since then there has been no further contact and now clearly places have already been offered. Very confusing indeed. 
 

Is anyone else in this situation?

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25 minutes ago, BalletPapa said:

Congratulations to all! 
 

Now for the awkward part, we were informed that there would be alternative final audition arrangements made for those who were unable to attend in person and that this would take place after April 4.  But since then there has been no further contact and now clearly places have already been offered. Very confusing indeed. 
 

Is anyone else in this situation?

I'm not but I assume they would have to honour this and would maybe have kept a space back or something for this scenario? X 

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41 minutes ago, BalletPapa said:

Congratulations to all! 
 

Now for the awkward part, we were informed that there would be alternative final audition arrangements made for those who were unable to attend in person and that this would take place after April 4.  But since then there has been no further contact and now clearly places have already been offered. Very confusing indeed. 
 

Is anyone else in this situation?

Have you tried emailing the auditions team to ask about arrangements? I’m sure there will be some x

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52 minutes ago, BalletPapa said:

Congratulations to all! 
 

Now for the awkward part, we were informed that there would be alternative final audition arrangements made for those who were unable to attend in person and that this would take place after April 4.  But since then there has been no further contact and now clearly places have already been offered. Very confusing indeed. 
 

Is anyone else in this situation?

I wonder as they will have faculty in the school over Easter running the online Spring intensive they may offer a zoom audition then? I think that’s running from the 7th April? But I’m sure speaking to them will clarify some options, best of luck 🤞 

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Does anyone know with the Mid associates places whether they will be based on the original video audition or the white lodge audition or will they factor both in? Is it the same people that decide for both? I’m assuming that’s why they filmed them? I sadly have told my DD I don’t think a MA place is likely based on the fact she didn’t have the physio checks others mentioned. I just didn’t want her to get her hopes up as yesterday was awful for her. She felt that the audition had gone really well and she’d had a compliment from the artistic director too. But it seems clear they had decided no on her before the physio   

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1 hour ago, Weloveballet said:

Does anyone know with the Mid associates places whether they will be based on the original video audition or the white lodge audition or will they factor both in? Is it the same people that decide for both? I’m assuming that’s why they filmed them? I sadly have told my DD I don’t think a MA place is likely based on the fact she didn’t have the physio checks others mentioned. I just didn’t want her to get her hopes up as yesterday was awful for her. She felt that the audition had gone really well and she’d had a compliment from the artistic director too. But it seems clear they had decided no on her before the 

My dd JA teacher said they normally get mids if they reach the finals unless they find a physical issue...but it looks like they may have taken more to finals than normal so not sure this is true this year....I wouldn't read too much into the physio checks...a lot of them had the physio before the dancing? Also different physios may have used different methods...also they were often lying on their front when they did checks so they wouldn't have necessarily seen? I think I will be playing down our chances of getting mids though as the standard was so high and there were so many girls! X 

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19 minutes ago, Raquelle said:

My dd JA teacher said they normally get mids if they reach the finals unless they find a physical issue...but it looks like they may have taken more to finals than normal so not sure this is true this year....I wouldn't read too much into the physio checks...a lot of them had the physio before the dancing? Also different physios may have used different methods...also they were often lying on their front when they did checks so they wouldn't have necessarily seen? I think I will be playing down our chances of getting mids though as the standard was so high and there were so many girls! X 

I will be doing the same, Mids places are so hard to get in normal years with only around 5 girls spaces at each centre as the classes are mixed with years 7,8 and 9 being in the same class.  We also had a no yesterday,  DD was upset but she knows that getting to finals was a massive achievement anyway.  Well done to all the Yes and Wait List results and sorry to all the nos.  Xxxx

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1 hour ago, Weloveballet said:

Does anyone know with the Mid associates places whether they will be based on the original video audition or the white lodge audition or will they factor both in? Is it the same people that decide for both? I’m assuming that’s why they filmed them? I sadly have told my DD I don’t think a MA place is likely based on the fact she didn’t have the physio checks others mentioned. I just didn’t want her to get her hopes up as yesterday was awful for her. She felt that the audition had gone really well and she’d had a compliment from the artistic director too. But it seems clear they had decided no on her before the physio   

Maybe because she danced first they felt they didn’t need to check certain things if they could see it in the class. Or maybe they were rushing. I don’t think you should read anything in to it XX 

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I went through all this last year with my ds. He applied for year 8 last year with only 3 boys in finals for that year. He sadly didn’t make it and was absolutely heartbroken. It took a long time to get over it but it the end he was fine and decided not to apply again this year. What will be will be. You can spend hours/days trying to figure out why it was a no but it’s not worth it. They will all get there in their own time. Hope everyone’s dc are ok.

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2 hours ago, Weloveballet said:

Does anyone know with the Mid associates places whether they will be based on the original video audition or the white lodge audition or will they factor both in? Is it the same people that decide for both? I’m assuming that’s why they filmed them? I sadly have told my DD I don’t think a MA place is likely based on the fact she didn’t have the physio checks others mentioned. I just didn’t want her to get her hopes up as yesterday was awful for her. She felt that the audition had gone really well and she’d had a compliment from the artistic director too. But it seems clear they had decided no on her before the physio   

The MA audition is just the original video. As others have said, there are very few places available for MAs, so will be managing dd’s expectations. 

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Just to highlight the MA’s I do know of two lady’s who one and been through JA’s and Mids and summer schools and didn’t get Snr but he friend had tried every year for JA N Mids and always got a no until she audition for another year but for Snr and got a yes, the one who got assessed out was so upset but apparently they did asses a few out that year ........ so again for all those no’s if it’s your dream never give up

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23 minutes ago, Dancermom said:

Do you think it’s different people deciding on the mids places? 

No it isn’t, that’s why Mark Annear head of Associates is on the finals audition panel, they identify who they want for MAs pretty much from the finals, and the Prelim videos. Mark Annear is also present on the panel for Prelim selection. 


All the children in my child’s Y7 MA’s happened to be finalists, previous JAs and also on Wait List. 
 

Im not saying that will always be the case, but IME it often is. There are always some children who come in from other associates , but usually via the finals.

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25 minutes ago, Motomum said:

No it isn’t, that’s why Mark Annear head of Associates is on the finals audition panel, they identify who they want for MAs pretty much from the finals, and the Prelim videos. Mark Annear is also present on the panel for Prelim selection. 


All the children in my child’s Y7 MA’s happened to be finalists, previous JAs and also on Wait List. 
 

Im not saying that will always be the case, but IME it often is. There are always some children who come in from other associates , but usually via the finals.

That’s interesting, I assumed the decisions were made by different teams. 

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