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5 minutes ago, Crazylifecrazykids said:

Thankyou... just a shame it's predominantly digital auditions this year and DD probably won't experience an audition in person, which is a shame. Xx

Yes, it is a shame! Filming these videos is stressful too! They’ve only just started pirouettes at JAs, so we’re holding off on filming those! 

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12 minutes ago, PetitJeté said:

Yes, it is a shame! Filming these videos is stressful too! They’ve only just started pirouettes at JAs, so we’re holding off on filming those! 

It is so very stressful, I feel all the pressure is on me...I have thought about just giving up and not apply. Finding it hard to keep ds focused too. 

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12 minutes ago, Lara Eschler said:

It is so very stressful, I feel all the pressure is on me...I have thought about just giving up and not apply. Finding it hard to keep ds focused too. 

Also feeling stressed but giving it another few weeks before I think about it and hoping by then her pirouettes will have improved! X 

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1 hour ago, coniger said:

 My DC got a place and has been lucky enough to go to a few over the years  but it has absolutely no baring whatsoever on whether they will get a WL or MA place.  The year my DC was applying for the school there were a few who didn't get spring or summer but went on to get a place at WL.  Honestly year 6 is the most stressful year for both parents and children - it should have a health warning!

I was just thinking perhaps we shouldn't even bother with the MA application this year, so this was nice to read.

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11 minutes ago, Katniss said:

Sorry if you have read this before and to give hope to those with ‘no’s but my dd always got a no or swl for the RBS summer intensive... including the year she got offered a full time place at WL!😂

That’s so interesting, no rhyme or reason really! 

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Congratulations to the yesses, waiting lists and the no's are not yets...which is where we are. It's easy to overhink it all and after reading all the helpful comments here, it's a case of chalk it up to experience and forward with the next dance project... in our case audition video... resilience is a great skill to have and I'm learning! Good luck to everyone here who is on the vocational journey, especially in these different times. I try to keep telling myself what will be, will be and me trying to second guess isn't helping me, although I do still seem to do it! 🤔🤣.. One thing I do know, is this forum is amazing place for support 🥰 so much experience on here 😍

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Just got a yes for my DS! So happy as he didn't get to do the Summer Intensive this year. Congratulations to all, whether yes, SWL or not yet. It's been a tough year and to still stay positive, forge ahead and apply for things in the current climate takes a great deal of dedication - DCs and parents alike!

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It's hard not to be disheartened by the no's. It's nice to hear of success stories but we really have resigned ourselves to a no really just means that and not a 'not yet'.

 

It saddens me that ballet remains such an expensive pursuit, constant application fees which are simply unaffordable for very many families.

 

 

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@HopelessMummyIt’s such a tricky one. I do wonder sometimes at the trend on this forum to label all no’s as ‘not yets’. Yes sometimes they are but at some point a no is a no and will remain a no. The difficulty is knowing which is which. 
 

I wouldn’t put too much emphasis on intensive results particularly this year. The different arms of RBS do seem to operate quite independently of each other so results in one area don’t necessarily tally up. Plus there are many odd circumstances this year which seem to make it a tricky one on which to base conclusions. 
 

That being said if this no is the latest in a string of no’s from RBS then maybe the truth has to be faced that RBS isn’t the right school. This doesn’t mean there is no future in classical ballet: other schools are available which may suit children more!! 

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15 minutes ago, Whiteduvet said:

@HopelessMummyIt’s such a tricky one. I do wonder sometimes at the trend on this forum to label all no’s as ‘not yets’. Yes sometimes they are but at some point a no is a no and will remain a no. The difficulty is knowing which is which. 
 

I wouldn’t put too much emphasis on intensive results particularly this year. The different arms of RBS do seem to operate quite independently of each other so results in one area don’t necessarily tally up. Plus there are many odd circumstances this year which seem to make it a tricky one on which to base conclusions. 
 

That being said if this no is the latest in a string of no’s from RBS then maybe the truth has to be faced that RBS isn’t the right school. This doesn’t mean there is no future in classical ballet: other schools are available which may suit children more!! 

I do know of a child that had straight no’s all the way through JAs, years 4-6, and the same for intensives every year. Then come year 7 auditions, they not only got to WL finals, but were called back in the final few. They then got a MA place!  So you never know. Kids change SO much!

I think it’s the attitude that counts when applying, especially with intensives that are chosen by photos and also a clear understanding of the odds! The selection committee must be so swamped with choice, and I’m sure the final choices come down to minuscule differences between dancers. I don’t envy them to be honest. My DD understands that there is nothing wrong with her if she doesn’t get a place somewhere, just others seem a better fit to what the panel are looking for. We look forward to our annual roll of the RBS dice 😆 xx

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We got the waiting list which we seem to get every time. I do know of girls who have had spaces offered from the waiting list but we haven’t as yet. I do think having to pay to apply isn’t the best idea and I am going to really think about whether it is worth the expense especially with 2 DD’s. 
Congratulations to every child with a yes I really hope they love it, fingers crossed to all those on the waiting list and RBS isn’t the only option to those with a no. 

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On 12/11/2020 at 07:38, SJBallet said:

@Whiteduvet I’ve considered the following:

 

*photos

*children that don’t require funding so more  money for RBS

*children that do a reasonable amount of dancing so could cope with the days

*those that have indicated they want full time training 

*I can’t decide whether being a current JA is a positive or not. 
 

I’m sure there’s more but I can’t think what they are just now, these are just from the questions on the application. 
 

But even after thinking about all of the above I still think it’s a lottery 😁

Hi there

 

I have just started to follow this link and share the idea that selection has to be based on things we might never really know but in response to the areas of thought that you have posted and I share:

 

We heard yesterday that our DS has been offered a place on the Spring Intensive, the salient formation is:

 

He is Y5 in school - age 10

He is a JA - since Y4

The photos were traumatic - wore JA uniform - you state in application whether they are a JA or not anyway, but done on mobile phone, in the house, by me (know nothing of ballet)

We have requested funding support

He does 5 hours of dance (because he is a JA) and 6 hours of Gymnastics

He definitely wants to do WL fulltime in Y7

 

We were not thinking residential because of his age  but due to Covid the course is now only residential - DS was so excited that he wants to do it anyway

 

Sorry if I have gone on too much.

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@balletboy8

how wonderful 😊

that is really good to hear. I constantly worry that the photos need to be taken professionally.

my DD is also year 5 and JA from year 4, I took the photos myself with a little advice from her local dance teacher, she got wait list which we are happy with for her first application 

I’m sure your DS will love it, what a fantastic opportunity 

 

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7 minutes ago, Fairydust said:

@balletboy8

how wonderful 😊

that is really good to hear. I constantly worry that the photos need to be taken professionally.

my DD is also year 5 and JA from year 4, I took the photos myself with a little advice from her local dance teacher, she got wait list which we are happy with for her first application 

I’m sure your DS will love it, what a fantastic opportunity 

 

Thank you Fairydust - we have to loosen the reins sometime 😀

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1 hour ago, margarite said:

I do know of a child that had straight no’s all the way through JAs, years 4-6, and the same for intensives every year. Then come year 7 auditions, they not only got to WL finals, but were called back in the final few. They then got a MA place!  So you never know. Kids change SO much!

I think it’s the attitude that counts when applying, especially with intensives that are chosen by photos and also a clear understanding of the odds! The selection committee must be so swamped with choice, and I’m sure the final choices come down to minuscule differences between dancers. I don’t envy them to be honest. My DD understands that there is nothing wrong with her if she doesn’t get a place somewhere, just others seem a better fit to what the panel are looking for. We look forward to our annual roll of the RBS dice 😆 xx

I think you’re so right that it will come down to minuscule differences. I also wonder if perhaps they favour children who aren’t already JAs, to give them the experience? I have no idea how many JAs get in vs not, but just a thought. My dd asked me last night about not getting in (she’s on the waiting list) and said “what did I do wrong?” 😢 I told her she didn’t ‘do’ anything, she just had her picture taken! Difficult to navigate all this! 

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 Congratulations @balletboy8! That is great news 🙂.  We also said we're applying for Y7 WL so I wonder if that is a relevant factor? 

This is my DS's third year of applying for RBS things, with last year's summer intensive that didn't happen and previous SWLs and other things that didn't pan out with the disappointments that followed...so sympathise with the responses here about tough decisions about whether to reapply with all the costs involved. We decided to keep trying and keep hoping - because it is what he wants to do. It's a powerful motivation which I guess drives us all to make the sacrifices and go through the stress for our DCs. Hoping that there are yeses in the dance world around the corner for all on this forum. ❤️

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4 hours ago, TwirlyWhirly said:

 Congratulations @balletboy8! That is great news 🙂.  We also said we're applying for Y7 WL so I wonder if that is a relevant factor? 

This is my DS's third year of applying for RBS things, with last year's summer intensive that didn't happen and previous SWLs and other things that didn't pan out with the disappointments that followed...so sympathise with the responses here about tough decisions about whether to reapply with all the costs involved. We decided to keep trying and keep hoping - because it is what he wants to do. It's a powerful motivation which I guess drives us all to make the sacrifices and go through the stress for our DCs. Hoping that there are yeses in the dance world around the corner for all on this forum. ❤️

Thanks TwirlyWhirly (cool name by the way), congratulations to your DS too - well done for continuing to apply - perseverance is such a needed quality to follow dreams 😀 

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My dd was a JA when she received her swl place in year 6 before gaining a full time place. Now we realise that the summer intensive system Is complete different from the full time training .she did end up doing SI and WL  full timers are encouraged to apply . It’s great experience but it certainly does not give a flavour of full timing training . That is very different. 

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