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1 minute ago, Balletbuds80 said:

I think this statement was made when they were still hoping for a class audition as they would have been unsure if they would be allowed that volume of children in one room so have said autumn for a Jan start. But Its not quite autumn yet so could start earlier? I am hoping that the timescales will be the same as the Year 6 as I believe (and correct me if I am wrong), that the places available at this point are open to both Year 4 and 5 children? So if there are 8 places, it can be either Year 4 or 5 as this age group are in a class together? Gosh I am babbling 😂 I may be wrong though........

We are Group 2 and I am expecting an email around the beginning of September. I think it will be posted on here by myself and others when they comes through. I do hope we will hear the results in Groups and not one big mail shot at the end of it all. 

I remember asking RBS at the beginning of the year how the groups expand from year to year. As I originally rather naively thought, if (for example) there were 8 children in Y4, and they all rise to Y5, how would there be places available? They told me by email they take fewer Y4, and expand the group in Y5 to allow space for new applicants. Same with the Y5 group rising to Y6, then expanding to take new applicants. I don’t know how many places come available, and how that’s mixed over boys and girls. There are some things I resign myself to probably never knowing :)

 

Results were sent out last year in the order of centre audition, so I imagine they’ll post results in the same way this year. 

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17 minutes ago, BalletBoysDad said:

Just incase this is interesting for any Group 4 applicants: 

 

We have only just sent out group 1, so Group 4 will not be going out until the end of September with a return time in the middle of October.

That is interesting, where did you get that info from? Still a while to wait then!

@Balletbuds80 yes you are right, places are open to Yr 4 and 5 together, boys and girls, and they take a lot less yr 4s. So I feel like my DD has a better chance this year being a year 5, last year she was a very little August born yr 4 but has come on so much since then having spent a year at Elmhurst. I realise it is still unlikely but you never know! 🤞

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Blimey - still a wait for us Birmingham then! 

 

I have very little hope of success for DD as not sure she fits the JA profile but nothing ventured nothing gained 😊

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1 minute ago, BellaF said:

Blimey - still a wait for us Birmingham then! 

 

I have very little hope of success for DD as not sure she fits the JA profile but nothing ventured nothing gained 😊

I've seen so many people post stuff like this and then get a place, you really never know!! Good luck. Which year Birmingham is your DD going for?

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1 minute ago, Spamcat said:

That is interesting, where did you get that info from? Still a while to wait then!

@Balletbuds80 yes you are right, places are open to Yr 4 and 5 together, boys and girls, and they take a lot less yr 4s. So I feel like my DD has a better chance this year being a year 5, last year she was a very little August born yr 4 but has come on so much since then having spent a year at Elmhurst. I realise it is still unlikely but you never know! 🤞

I emailed the auditions team email address last night. and this was from their reply this morning. At least it’s nice and transparent. 
 

Im going on the presumption that this is just good experience for my DS. But like @Spamcat I’m feeling a bit the same. When they lined up last year in number (age) order, my July born DS was so much smaller than the other boys. Yet he’s had quite a growth spurt and a good year of experience with ENB and Central School, so he’s come on so much as a dancer. He’ll be starting Elmhurst Young Dancers in September, so I’m glad he’s got that to focus on. 

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10 minutes ago, BellaF said:

Blimey - still a wait for us Birmingham then! 

 

I have very little hope of success for DD as not sure she fits the JA profile but nothing ventured nothing gained 😊

Indeed. But at least there’s Elmhurst to look forwards to. Only thinking hypothetically, but elmhurst will be well under way by the time RBS Birmingham applicants are informed. There’s nothing to say the class times aren’t the same etc...

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1 minute ago, BalletBoysDad said:

Indeed. But at least there’s Elmhurst to look forwards to. Only thinking hypothetically, but elmhurst will be well under way by the time RBS Birmingham applicants are informed. There’s nothing to say the class times aren’t the same etc...

There are several kids that do both in Birmingham. Elmhurst is in the morning and JAs in the afternoon.

We applied in Bath last year as it is nearer us and my DD was the second from last in the audition which is in age order. She looked so tiny! This year we are going for Birmingham as she wants to carry on with Elmhurst. In fact we love Elmhurst so much if it came down to a choice we would stay at Elmhurst!

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13 minutes ago, Spamcat said:

There are several kids that do both in Birmingham. Elmhurst is in the morning and JAs in the afternoon.

We applied in Bath last year as it is nearer us and my DD was the second from last in the audition which is in age order. She looked so tiny! This year we are going for Birmingham as she wants to carry on with Elmhurst. In fact we love Elmhurst so much if it came down to a choice we would stay at Elmhurst!

We only just relocated to the midlands, but feel so fortunate that Elmhurst is only a half hour drove away. We applied for RBS London last year. My DS was second to last too! It literally went tallest to shortest,m. He sounded like he had a bit of an awful audition and actually slipped over. He was offered SWL that came to nothing. So we will try again. But purely for experience and without expectation.

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59 minutes ago, Spamcat said:

I've seen so many people post stuff like this and then get a place, you really never know!! Good luck. Which year Birmingham is your DD going for?

 

Year 5 - she's also starting at Elmhurst where I think your DD is at so hopefully will see you there 😊

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11 minutes ago, BellaF said:

 

Year 5 - she's also starting at Elmhurst where I think your DD is at so hopefully will see you there 😊

Yes she is so will see you there. She will love Elmhurst! 🥰

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50 minutes ago, BellaF said:

 

Year 5 - she's also starting at Elmhurst where I think your DD is at so hopefully will see you there 😊

Were you on the forum last year going for a yr 4 place? I feel like I recognise your name.

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1 hour ago, Spamcat said:

@BalletBoysDad that is lucky, we are nearly 2 hours away. We take it in turns to drive there with DDs friend though. Sounds like he has a really good chance if he got SWL last year!

I thought he would have a decent chance based on last year. But this years’ audition will be so different, we’re going on the assumption that it’s just good experience. 

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48 minutes ago, Spamcat said:

Were you on the forum last year going for a yr 4 place? I feel like I recognise your name.

 

No first time going for any associates this year 😊

 

I was on the forum last year asking about Midland Theatre Ballet though so maybe where you know my name from?

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Has anybody had confirmation as to whether the results will come out group by group - e.g. 4 weeks after submission date for that group, or all together at the end (so probably November time)? Thanks :) 

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I can't see that there would be any point in waiting to give all results together at the end e.g. there will be no crossover between London auditions and Leeds/Dundee so I would have thought they would give results in centre order. But just guessing here.

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4 hours ago, Millicent said:

I can't see that there would be any point in waiting to give all results together at the end e.g. there will be no crossover between London auditions and Leeds/Dundee so I would have thought they would give results in centre order. But just guessing here.

I would think the same. They’d give themselves a lot of ‘acceptance admin’ holding onto results to give them out all in one go. But just a guess too. 
 

We applied to London last year, which was the last set of results to be given out. The wait felt agonising, as results were released in order of audition centre. We’ve applied to Birmingham this year, which is, ironically, last to be given out 🤦‍♂️😂

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Well, we filmed my pupil’s audition yesterday! She loved doing it and I thought parts 1 and 2 went well for her. Her improvisation was beautiful, but the end of part 3 was very ropey! Desperately wanted to give her another go but resisted temptation! I strongly suspect that to save time, they will watch part 1 and reject most at that stage based on the body shape they’re looking for (which seems to change with the wind!), then do another cull after part 2 and only watch part 3 if they’re really interested... But that is pure prophecy. No idea when we’re likely to get results so we’re just going to have to try to forget about it. Chukkas everyone, and maybe see some of you at Tring on 5th September?

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1 hour ago, MissEmily said:

Well, we filmed my pupil’s audition yesterday! She loved doing it and I thought parts 1 and 2 went well for her. Her improvisation was beautiful, but the end of part 3 was very ropey! Desperately wanted to give her another go but resisted temptation! I strongly suspect that to save time, they will watch part 1 and reject most at that stage based on the body shape they’re looking for (which seems to change with the wind!), then do another cull after part 2 and only watch part 3 if they’re really interested... But that is pure prophecy. No idea when we’re likely to get results so we’re just going to have to try to forget about it. Chukkas everyone, and maybe see some of you at Tring on 5th September?

Well done to your pupil and good luck!

I think you are probably right, actually I suspect they will watch some for just a few seconds and decide no, there will be so many to get through!

I am interested that you said 'your pupil' so you are her teacher not her parent? I was wondering if we could do DDs audition in the studio with her teacher (mainly due to bad lighting and lack of space at home) but I didn't know if that was allowed?

 

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5 minutes ago, Spamcat said:

Well done to your pupil and good luck!

I think you are probably right, actually I suspect they will watch some for just a few seconds and decide no, there will be so many to get through!

I am interested that you said 'your pupil' so you are her teacher not her parent? I was wondering if we could do DDs audition in the studio with her teacher (mainly due to bad lighting and lack of space at home) but I didn't know if that was allowed?

 


I went to her home to do it, with social distancing observed, which was not easy! Her parents both work full-time, have English as a second language, know nothing about ballet and have a 2 year-old so given that I COULD help out, I thought I would! It would have been me taking her to her audition anyway, and we had a lovely time doing it 😊

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@MissEmily oh I see, was there anything on the video that required a lot of space?

For us it is the space I am worried about rather than needing the teacher's help. I think I know what I'm doing? 😂 Also we have 5 kids so will be really tricky at home.

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I did my DD's yesterday too. In some of it she looked really good but she did make a few mistakes. But hopefully they are expecting that as they emphasised not to refilm and just to carry on if you make a mistake. I also figure that it shows that we followed the rules and didn't practice in advance. And she is only 8! 

 

You really need very little space, as long as you can lie down on the floor sideways to the camera. So relieved to have it over and done with! 

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I just want to wish everyone good luck with their auditions. Fingers crossed for you all. 
 

About the split of classes. At DDs centre there are 2 classes. One for year 6 and one for year 4/5. Last year 10 year 4s got places and I think there were about 10 year 5s in the class. All those year 5s will now be  yr 6 and they’ll have added to that (I’m not sure how many were in the year 6 class). And DD and her 9 year 4 class mates will now be Yr5 leaving approx 10 places to fill with a mix of year 4 and 5. 
 

Obviously London will be very different as they have more classes and I don’t know what the other regional centres are like but I hope this helps. 
 

Best of luck everyone. 

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7 hours ago, SJBallet said:

I just want to wish everyone good luck with their auditions. Fingers crossed for you all. 
 

About the split of classes. At DDs centre there are 2 classes. One for year 6 and one for year 4/5. Last year 10 year 4s got places and I think there were about 10 year 5s in the class. All those year 5s will now be  yr 6 and they’ll have added to that (I’m not sure how many were in the year 6 class). And DD and her 9 year 4 class mates will now be Yr5 leaving approx 10 places to fill with a mix of year 4 and 5. 
 

Obviously London will be very different as they have more classes and I don’t know what the other regional centres are like but I hope this helps. 
 

Best of luck everyone. 

Thank you very much for that info, really appreciated, That would suggest that most Y5 places are taken by the current Y4 children, and the bulk order of the places available will be Y4, maybe with a slim chance of a couple of additions to Y5? Unless they decide to take fewer year 4s purposely to take a few more y5s? (Not that me knowing this will make any difference :) ) Were applying for Birmingham so I imagine there will of course be fewer classes than London too. 

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47 minutes ago, BalletBoysDad said:

Thank you very much for that info, really appreciated, That would suggest that most Y5 places are taken by the current Y4 children, and the bulk order of the places available will be Y4, maybe with a slim chance of a couple of additions to Y5? Unless they decide to take fewer year 4s purposely to take a few more y5s? (Not that me knowing this will make any difference :) ) Were applying for Birmingham so I imagine there will of course be fewer classes than London too. 
 

 

 

I think they only have so many places and will take the children they want without trying to fill specific year 4/5 places. You’ll drive yourself crazy trying to make sense of it. I know I did last year 😁

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10 minutes ago, SJBallet said:

 

I think they only have so many places and will take the children they want without trying to fill specific year 4/5 places. You’ll drive yourself crazy trying to make sense of it. I know I did last year 😁

Well said 😂 Yes, that was my presumption, that they’ll take who they like and massage out the numbers accordingly, rather than sticking to a rigid quota per year group.  As that would mean even fewer opportunities for those who didn’t start at Y4. 

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However many places are available they are filled with a mixture of year 4 and 5, they don't take a set number of yr 4s. So I think year 5 they have a slightly better chance because they are older.

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