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Sorry to all of the Nos. 😢 It really does seem like there are very few places this year. Last year on this forum when results came out there were quite a few yeses. Am I right that there has only been one yes on here so far?! At least we can have realistic expectations that it is almost definitely going to be a no.

@tutugirl I haven't seen any this year but there were a few yr4 yeses last year but they seemed to be kids older in the school year, the one I know was October born yr4. My DD applied for yr4 last year as a tiny August born and got a no. We were feeling hopeful this year as she has come on so much but I realise the chance is almost zero.

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Just now, In at the deep end said:

I imagine class sizes will have been reduced this year due to Covid? That must be why they are sending out some emails asking people to apply again next year.......

Yes and as applications usually open in January, we won't have to wait long until they start all over again! 😁

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Unless I’m mistaken, I believe is saw two ‘yes’ but I’m not sure if they were both Y4, or one Y4 and one Y5. I must admit that I personally feel very cynical this year. The dreaded ‘C-word’ of Covid will surely mean that class sizes must be kept very small? My July born DS auditioned for Y4 London last year and was given SWL. I was told that they give relatively few Y4 places to give opportunity for new Y5 student to join/expand the group when Y4s ‘rise’ to Y5. But the pressure to keep class sizes small makes me wonder if there will be any Y5 places this year at all! I hope I’m wrong, but I have a cynical feeling people are auditioning for places that don’t actually exist, at best getting SWL. 

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I get the impression they just fill the (very limited) spaces with the kids they want regardless of whether they are yr4 or 5 as the two tears are in together?? Unlike Elmhurst which has a full class of each.

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Just now, BalletBoysDad said:

Unless I’m mistaken, I believe is saw two ‘yes’ but I’m not sure if they were both Y4, or one Y4 and one Y5. I must admit that I personally feel very cynical this year. The dreaded ‘C-word’ of Covid will surely mean that class sizes must be kept very small? My July born DS auditioned for Y4 London last year and was given SWL. I was told that they give relatively few Y4 places to give opportunity for new Y5 student to join/expand the group when Y4s ‘rise’ to Y5. But the pressure to keep class sizes small makes me wonder if there will be any Y5 places this year at all! I hope I’m wrong, but I have a cynical feeling people are auditioning for places that don’t actually exist, at best getting SWL. 

Having seen all the children not being accepted on here, I had the same thought - they must have a limit as to how many children they can safely have in their studios and it’s almost certainly going to be a smaller number than previously! Certainly at my daughter’s dance school we had to book spaces on the classes we wanted because spaces were more limited. It’s a pity, but sadly it’s the world we live in at the moment!   

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On 09/10/2020 at 00:32, The red shoes said:

So do you send three separate files or film it continuously? 

 

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Not quite sure how I've just done that! Trying to reply to the thread 🙈
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It really does seem like all they are giving out is no and swl. Do you think they are taking hardly any and just keeping lots on a waiting list incase covid rules change and the class can be expanded? 🤔 Just a thought!

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17 minutes ago, MamaFrosty said:

Having seen all the children not being accepted on here, I had the same thought - they must have a limit as to how many children they can safely have in their studios and it’s almost certainly going to be a smaller number than previously! Certainly at my daughter’s dance school we had to book spaces on the classes we wanted because spaces were more limited. It’s a pity, but sadly it’s the world we live in at the moment!   

I sometimes think I drive myself mad on here questioning things that I will never know the answers to. But I can’t help but torment myself with speculation....

 

If the youngest class is a mix of Y4 and Y5, those Y5 children rose to Y6 in September. That would have created spaces in a ‘normal year’ for an intake of new Y4/Y5 children.
 

I imagine it depends if the current combination of Y4 and Y5 children is already at capacity per centre, or if it’s short of capacity, to give a handful of successful applicants the opportunity to join. 
 

If a centre is already at capacity, due to restrictions, i imagine it would rely on current students dropping out, which is almost unimaginable, to free up some opportunity for SWL. 
 

 

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7 minutes ago, Spamcat said:

It really does seem like all they are giving out is no and swl. Do you think they are taking hardly any and just keeping lots on a waiting list incase covid rules change and the class can be expanded? 🤔 Just a thought!

If that’s the case, in a ‘normal’ year, some of those SWL would probably be ‘yes’, and some of those ‘no’ would probably be ‘SWL’. It feels very disheartening.

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3 minutes ago, BalletBoysDad said:

If that’s the case, in a ‘normal’ year, some of those SWL would probably be ‘yes’, and some of those ‘no’ would probably be ‘SWL’. It feels very disheartening.

Yes that is what I'm thinking.

 

I think this year if anyone gets a no or swl definitely don't take it as meaning your DC is not 'good enough' as they may very well have got a yes under normal circumstances!

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3 minutes ago, Spamcat said:

Yes that is what I'm thinking.

 

I think this year if anyone gets a no or swl definitely don't take it as meaning your DC is not 'good enough' as they may very well have got a yes under normal circumstances!

Bloody COVID 😂

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My DD received SWL this year for year 6 and we are still hoping for a place although we know it’s really doubtful.  We were hoping that once the year 4&5 results were out spaces might become available as they may make new classes etc.  I know they have split our local year 6 class to make it smaller and some of the year 5s are in with the younger year 6s so we are hoping RBS will make another class.  Keeping my fingers crossed here for all of those children on the SWL.  Well done for all the yes results and don’t give up to the nos.

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I  just feel really peeved that for £50 my daughters videos were only watched for a few minutes. We always knew there was a nearly zero percent chance of gaining a place and she successfully auditioned for Elmhurst in the summer and loves it there so chances are we would have turned a place down anyway but still BBA5E52E-1720-4863-B3D9-BDE07A7A32F7.thumb.png.e32a69f0797fdba5694022579633fda2.png really frustrating 

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15 minutes ago, BalletBoysDad said:

I sometimes think I drive myself mad on here questioning things that I will never know the answers to. But I can’t help but torment myself with speculation....

 

If the youngest class is a mix of Y4 and Y5, those Y5 children rose to Y6 in September. That would have created spaces in a ‘normal year’ for an intake of new Y4/Y5 children.
 

I imagine it depends if the current combination of Y4 and Y5 children is already at capacity per centre, or if it’s short of capacity, to give a handful of successful applicants the opportunity to join. 
 

If a centre is already at capacity, due to restrictions, i imagine it would rely on current students dropping out, which is almost unimaginable, to free up some opportunity for SWL. 
 

 

My DS is year 6 in Londonand there are only 5 boys in the class this year and they are all year 6. Half of the boys his year  are in another small group of 6.  Last year there were 16 boys in his class and a mix of year 5 and 6 together. So, yes much smaller groups this year. 

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1 hour ago, tutugirl said:

Just out of curiosity - has anyone , anywhere got a yes for year 4 ?

 

I've seen a year 4 yes for a girl DD follows on Instagram.

 

Seems VERY few places this year - not even sure i can be bothered to film our audition this weekend 😂

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Lara Eschler said:

My DS is year 6 in Londonand there are only 5 boys in the class this year and they are all year 6. Half of the boys his year  are in another small group of 6.  Last year there were 16 boys in his class and a mix of year 5 and 6 together. So, yes much smaller groups this year. 

Do you know if any new Y6 boys joined your DS’s class in London? Or do you feel they didn’t offer any new spaces, due to the classes being full of existing students? 

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My DD got a yes for year 4! Actually can’t quite believe it, we went in with absolutely no expectations whatsoever. She is over the moon! 

 

Bittersweet though, as my eldest tried 3 times to get in, but never made it, so I know how the parents and littles ones who didnt get in feel. Eldest DD did go on to Elmhurst associate classes which she loved- there is more than RB out there. 
 
I have no idea at all what the RB look for, as both my daughters are beautiful dancers. The great unknown!   

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, BalletBoysDad said:

Do you know if any new Y6 boys joined your DS’s class in London? Or do you feel they didn’t offer any new spaces, due to the classes being full of existing students? 

We had a zoom meeting with all the year 6 boys and I think 1 or 2 were new. As DS has the same teacher as last year I am not sure if the boys were just new to that teacher or to JAs. I think one moved up from the year4-5 mixed class and maybe one was completely new. 

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1 minute ago, Lara Eschler said:

We had a zoom meeting with all the year 6 boys and I think 1 or 2 were new. As DS has the same teacher as last year I am not sure if the boys were just new to that teacher or to JAs. I think one moved up from the year4-5 mixed class and maybe one was completely new. 

Thanks for the info. So it seems there are places, but far fewer than ‘normal’ years. Looks like 1-2 rather than 4-5 I imagine. 

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5 minutes ago, Yellowbutterfly said:

My DD got a yes for year 4! Actually can’t quite believe it, we went in with absolutely no expectations whatsoever. She is over the moon! 

 

Bittersweet though, as my eldest tried 3 times to get in, but never made it, so I know how the parents and littles ones who didnt get in feel. Eldest DD did go on to Elmhurst associate classes which she loved- there is more than RB out there. 
 
I have no idea at all what the RB look for, as both my daughters are beautiful dancers. The great unknown!   

 

 

 

Congratulations to your Y4 DD! 👏👏👏

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13 minutes ago, Yellowbutterfly said:

My DD got a yes for year 4! Actually can’t quite believe it, we went in with absolutely no expectations whatsoever. She is over the moon! 

 

Bittersweet though, as my eldest tried 3 times to get in, but never made it, so I know how the parents and littles ones who didnt get in feel. Eldest DD did go on to Elmhurst associate classes which she loved- there is more than RB out there. 
 
I have no idea at all what the RB look for, as both my daughters are beautiful dancers. The great unknown!   

 

 

 

Congratulations that is brilliant!

There is hope! 😂

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1 hour ago, Lara Eschler said:

My DS is year 6 in Londonand there are only 5 boys in the class this year and they are all year 6. Half of the boys his year  are in another small group of 6.  Last year there were 16 boys in his class and a mix of year 5 and 6 together. So, yes much smaller groups this year. 

My son is year 6 Birmingham . There are two in his class and I think 2 in the 24 sessions classes

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1 hour ago, Dancemum100 said:

I  just feel really peeved that for £50 my daughters videos were only watched for a few minutes. We always knew there was a nearly zero percent chance of gaining a place and she successfully auditioned for Elmhurst in the summer and loves it there so chances are we would have turned a place down anyway but still BBA5E52E-1720-4863-B3D9-BDE07A7A32F7.thumb.png.e32a69f0797fdba5694022579633fda2.png really frustrating 

It’s so hard. They have really specific requirements regarding turnout and flexibility, and a child that doesn’t meet these would have to be absolutely magical to watch to get in without meeting these requirements. There was a girl in DD’s JA class with really limited turnout, but she was stunning to watch so they tried really hard to work with her issues. Ultimately, she didn’t make it into MAs, but it was easy to see why they wanted to help her.


With so many videos to watch, they couldn’t possibly spend time watching children that do not fulfil the criteria. The £50 fee is for the admin process and for them to be considered, but no one would expect them to keep watching if they know that a place will not be allocated to that child.

 

Children change a lot from one year to the next, and a ‘no’ one year can become a ‘yes’ later. RBS is not the only school, and ballet is not the only dance form, but the process is universally tough, and the first knock backs can be hard to accept.

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2 minutes ago, SissonneDoublee said:

It’s so hard. They have really specific requirements regarding turnout and flexibility, and a child that doesn’t meet these would have to be absolutely magical to watch to get in without meeting these requirements. There was a girl in DD’s JA class with really limited turnout, but she was stunning to watch so they tried really hard to work with her issues. Ultimately, she didn’t make it into MAs, but it was easy to see why they wanted to help her.


With so many videos to watch, they couldn’t possibly spend time watching children that do not fulfil the criteria. The £50 fee is for the admin process and for them to be considered, but no one would expect them to keep watching if they know that a place will not be allocated to that child.

 

Children change a lot from one year to the next, and a ‘no’ one year can become a ‘yes’ later. RBS is not the only school, and ballet is not the only dance form, but the process is universally tough, and the first knock backs can be hard to accept.

That is so lovely to read that they do sometimes make an effort for some children who don't perfectly fit the mould!

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