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6 minutes ago, Jan McNulty said:

 

I've just had a look on You Tube.  The video has had over 115000 views.

 

I saw that as well but I think that's all the views, not just the ones during the broadcast. I was wondering how many watched it live.  

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17 minutes ago, oncnp said:

 

I saw that as well but I think that's all the views, not just the ones during the broadcast. I was wondering how many watched it live.  

 

It looked to be around 11,000 plus (certainly when I was watching anyway).

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4 minutes ago, Jan McNulty said:

 

 

Does that make a material difference?

 

Live viewing gauges level of interest among arts lovers, especially in the time zone of the theatre...and even a few of us several time zones removed who love the arts. People who made a point to “be there” even though they could’ve watched later. 

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7 hours ago, Scheherezade said:

Fiona, Vadim is probably the only dancer that I would happily watch doing nothing more than running round in circles. It's that extraordinary purity that somehow touches the soul in a way that no-one else can quite match. Just gorgeous!

 

Definitely.  There are many of the Royal Ballet dancers I enjoy watching but I find Vadim in a different league.  There's just something about the way he moves and jumps that captivates me and the way that whether he's partnering someone or doing a solo, he looks like he's exactly where he needs to be.  When I'm looking for ballet tickets the first thing I check is which nights he's performing and the second thing is I check if Gary Avis or Bennet Gartside are in the character roles.  

 

Interestingly unlike @zxDaveM I really like watching the men in a ballet rather than the women as I love seeing the grand allegro and the larger jumps. I have huge admiration and respect for the female dancers at RB, ENB and BRB who are remarkably talented, but my eyes are always drawn to the men on any stage.  

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While I agree with many here that Saturday's concert was on the gloomy side, I've been thinking about the possible rationale behind the programming.

 

Some here have suggested that the audience is more likely to tune in for something with more "popular" content, but ROH's principal aim is to attract people willing to part with £5 to watch. With so much already out there for free, the questions must be, what kind of audience would pay a fiver and what kind of programme would entice them?

 

There are gala pieces galore on YouTube, performed by the very best soloists; but as far as I know there is only one Dance of the Blessed Spirits (with David Hallberg and very imperfect sound). The Mahler, while of course much more widely available, is also nothing to be sneezed at: Sarah Connolly and David Butt Philip are very fine singers and the Schoenberg reduction is itself a point of interest for music lovers.

 

That's not to say the opinions here are invalid, or will be proved wrong. I just think sometimes we get into a downward spiral of negativity about ROH (in particular) which isn't always merited. And we must remember that they are feeling their way with all this - there must necessarily be some trial and error involved.

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1 hour ago, Tango Dancer said:

 

Definitely.  There are many of the Royal Ballet dancers I enjoy watching but I find Vadim in a different league.  There's just something about the way he moves and jumps that captivates me and the way that whether he's partnering someone or doing a solo, he looks like he's exactly where he needs to be.  When I'm looking for ballet tickets the first thing I check is which nights he's performing and the second thing is I check if Gary Avis or Bennet Gartside are in the character roles.  

 

Interestingly unlike @zxDaveM I really like watching the men in a ballet rather than the women as I love seeing the grand allegro and the larger jumps. I have huge admiration and respect for the female dancers at RB, ENB and BRB who are remarkably talented, but my eyes are always drawn to the men on any stage.  

 

You and me both, Tango Dancer. I find everything about his movement is just sheer perfection; even playing basketball on Alex Campbell's Instagram compilations! Everything is just perfect from his port de bras, his jumps, his exquisite partnering and just his general very likeable, diffident, personality. I've paid my £4.99 for this Saturday just to see him and if it works out £1 a minute I don't care. I could watch him forever. I already love the Ashton rehearsal featured above and it's a pity it's not a more widely performed piece. I can't remember it being done on the ROH stage before though I might be wrong. Indeed there are several pieces I've never heard of that are covered in the Ashton Foundation rehearsal videos that would be great to see as an actual performance. it seems a shame to get dancers and coaches to put so much time and effort into rehearsing ballets that aren't going to be actually performed either on the main stage or even in the Linbury when there are plenty of people who would love to see them.

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10 hours ago, Lizbie1 said:

That's not to say the opinions here are invalid, or will be proved wrong. I just think sometimes we get into a downward spiral of negativity about ROH (in particular) which isn't always merited. And we must remember that they are feeling their way with all this - there must necessarily be some trial and error involved.

 

I think there is truth in that- the result, I know, of some very poor communications from their marketing department in the past which caused justifiable annoyance.  But things have changed, the situation is now very different, and  it might be remembered that the Royal Ballet is not necessarily in charge itself of the public communication aspect  - and that all the other staff and artists and so on are, after all, probably just as hacked off as the rest of us, if not more so.

 

I had my own criticisms of the first free event, but in justice I can see that it is indeed a very different thing to try to programme a live but audience-less and distancing event,  (with dancers who have not been able to go to class)  -  that people are willing to pay for - in the ROH, - than to make a short film for instagram- just 2 very different things.

 

However, I still want to see more ballet- and Vadim Muntagirov dancing Ashton will be the best start there could possibly be.

 

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25 minutes ago, Mary said:

I had my own criticisms of the first free event, but in justice I can see that it is indeed a very different thing to try to programme a live but audience-less and distancing event,  (with dancers who have not been able to go to class)  -  that people are willing to pay for - in the ROH, - than to make a short film for instagram- just 2 very different things.

 

However, I still want to see more ballet- and Vadim Muntagirov dancing Ashton will be the best start there could possibly be.

 

Yes, they are 2 very different things. But both require an initial choice as to what kind of material to put before the public, and I think the ROH made a big misjudgment on Saturday evening as to the tone of their offering/s. 

 

Also, there may well be good reasons for the fact that there was so little ballet,  but if so that should have been explained so that the impression is not given that ballet is the junior partner at the ROH.

 

Completely agree about Muntagirov/Ashton!

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3 hours ago, Jeannette said:

The more I think about it, the more I’m seriously considering plopping down my $5.28 for three minutes of Vadim in Blessed Spirit.

 

 I'm sure it will be money well spent, Jeanette! Let us know what you think if you do.

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Here are details of the ballet element of the show on June 27th, as just emailed:

 

Saturday 27 June, 7:30pm BST

Ballet

First Soloists of The Royal Ballet Fumi Kaneko and Reece Clarke will perform the lyrical central pas de deux from Kenneth MacMillan’s Concerto. Created in 1966, Concerto is set to Shostakovich’s Piano Concerto no. 2 in F. Royal Ballet pianist Kate Shipway will accompany the dancers, together with soloists of the Orchestra of the Royal Opera House. 

Principal Matthew Ball and First Soloist Mayara Magri will perform a pas de deux from Christopher Wheeldon’s Within the Golden Hour. First created for San Francisco Ballet, Within the Golden Hour has been part of The Royal Ballet’s repertory since 2016. Music Director of The Royal Ballet Koen Kessels will be conducting.

 

 

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1 hour ago, ChrisG said:

Here are details of the ballet element of the show on June 27th, as just emailed:

 

Saturday 27 June, 7:30pm BST

Ballet

First Soloists of The Royal Ballet Fumi Kaneko and Reece Clarke will perform the lyrical central pas de deux from Kenneth MacMillan’s Concerto. Created in 1966, Concerto is set to Shostakovich’s Piano Concerto no. 2 in F. Royal Ballet pianist Kate Shipway will accompany the dancers, together with soloists of the Orchestra of the Royal Opera House. 

Principal Matthew Ball and First Soloist Mayara Magri will perform a pas de deux from Christopher Wheeldon’s Within the Golden Hour. First created for San Francisco Ballet, Within the Golden Hour has been part of The Royal Ballet’s repertory since 2016. Music Director of The Royal Ballet Koen Kessels will be conducting.

 

 


hoorah 👏.  Definitely worth £4.99

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So, so moving to see Muntagirov back, and dancing beautifully as ever.

 

I'd have paid the money for that alone, but das Lied von den Erde was just wonderful. And so good to see Sarah Connolly back after her cancer treatment, though I couldn't help thinking of the Ferrier associations.

 

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15 minutes ago, Lizbie1 said:

So, so moving to see Muntagirov back, and dancing beautifully as ever.

 

I'd have paid the money for that alone, but das Lied von den Erde was just wonderful. And so good to see Sarah Connolly back after her cancer treatment, though I couldn't help thinking of the Ferrier associations.

 

 

Vadim is beautiful and I entirely agree it was worth it just to see him moving with so much grace and elegance.    

 

Das Lied was amazing and I love Sarah Connolly in it.  She has the loveliest tone in my opinion and so much stage presence. The last song was so moving.  

 

 

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Muntagirov was beyond beautiful. I am (almost) lost for words. One dancer - THAT dancer -  alone on THAT stage ..............!!!!

 

But, oh dear, most of the online comments were not about Vadim or the wonderful Song of the Earth, but about technical issues - which cannot be what the ROH intended. [I discovered that the e-mail confirming one's payment to Vimeo does not provide a useable watch 'button' on some email systems -  no problem on gmail, though.]

 

 

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And now it isn’t up for people to watch again. Hopefully they will sort that out quickly.

 

But yes, Muntagirov - how utterly sublime and beautiful. An emotional performance that brought tears to my eyes, at least. Lockdown plainly hasn’t damaged his abilities in any way.

 

Far too short, though, I’d have happily watched him all night!

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I'm glad people mentioned the problems other people are having as I'm having them too! I missed the start and put it on to rewind it when it had finished as I only wanted to see Vadim and it didn't seem to have the rewind facility when playing but all I'm getting is OFF AIR! I'm in the middle of emailing customer support wondering if the problem is just mine but apparently not. Have been waiting all day (well all year actually!) to see Vadim so hugely disappointed. I hope they'll have sorted it out by tomorrow. Doesn't bode well for people paying for next week. Why couldn't they show it on their own website or YouTube rather than Vimeo? Surely they could have managed payment on either of those sites.

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I watched on my laptop-  I didn't know what to do so just went to ROH website and clicked on Today on the calendar and then on the event, and it said 'Watch now' (I had already paid last week) and it just worked...I didn't have to do anything complicated..(just as well) so not sure why others had to.

 

How very frustrating and awful to have missed Vadim- I am sure you will be able to watch it soon.

 

I think he poured all his feelings about the situation into that performance.  It is wonderful to have it saved on film and maybe in  years to come we will look back at it as a moment of light in a dark time.

 

 

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Lovely to see Vadim on stage again - and hoping for a lot more when circumstances permit.  But I was absolutely moved to tears by Sarah Connolly in the closing moments of Das Lied der Erde - and clearly I wasn't the only one.  It was a very special performance, and I think I may actually prefer the chamber version to the one with full orchestra - it has a lovely clarity to it.

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26 minutes ago, jmhopton said:

I'm glad people mentioned the problems other people are having as I'm having them too! I missed the start and put it on to rewind it when it had finished as I only wanted to see Vadim and it didn't seem to have the rewind facility when playing but all I'm getting is OFF AIR! I'm in the middle of emailing customer support wondering if the problem is just mine but apparently not. Have been waiting all day (well all year actually!) to see Vadim so hugely disappointed. I hope they'll have sorted it out by tomorrow. Doesn't bode well for people paying for next week. Why couldn't they show it on their own website or YouTube rather than Vimeo? Surely they could have managed payment on either of those sites.


I just refreshed my screen and it is now up!

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It's back!!!!! 

Just seen Vadim, as beautiful and moving a performance as ever I've seen. What a great artist and how lucky we are to have him in London. Was definitely worth the wait. Just going back to see it again.... and again... 

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54 minutes ago, alison said:

It was a very special performance, and I think I may actually prefer the chamber version to the one with full orchestra - it has a lovely clarity to it.

 

I agree - I'm assuming it was the arrangement by Arnold Schoenberg who did chamber versions of a number of Mahler's works. I also agree with the comments about Dame Sarah, who seems to have come through her health problems with her wonderful voice completely intact.

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