Sim Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 I would happily pay for live streaming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Wall Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Seems there is hope ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 If social distancing is to remain on public transport with the resulting drop in capacity, it's going to make the time/s and length/s of any performances of rather theoretical relevance to most people since it won't be possible to get to them anyway. At the moment the advice is to only use public transport if essential; that advice would have to change to make theatre-going possible even if/when it re-starts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Each state in Germany seems to be playing things differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Bruce Wall said: Seems there is hope ... I didn't notice much in the way of social distancing. It will be interesting to see if there is a spike in dancers back at work contracting the virus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Another thought. How will theatres and companies stand with regard to public liability insurance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Wall Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 50 minutes ago, Jan McNulty said: I didn't notice much in the way of social distancing. It will be interesting to see if there is a spike in dancers back at work contracting the virus... Guess time will tell. For their sake I so wish them well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angela Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 4 hours ago, capybara said: Each state in Germany seems to be playing things differently. They start doing it differently because each head of each state wants to be faster/more careful/different, but after two weeks they all do the same. Seriously: It depends very much on the geographic position, the states in the south had much more Corona cases because people were skiing in Italy and Austria, so politicians in Bavaria tend to be more careful. There were fewer cases in the north, it also depends from town to town. I look to Austria, they are normally one or two weeks ahead of Germany with reopening. They will allow smaller cultural events soon, but on the other hand Bregenz Festival was cancelled today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 It seems to me that the key to any sort of meaningful resumption of performances is that social distancing is to be maintained 'where possible'. It's clearly not possible for dancers to keep their distance from each other to either rehearse or perform. There's a limit to how complete social distancing can be if a group of people get together to watch a performance any distance from their homes. There's a limit to how far social distancing can happen on public transport at least some of the time. If 100% social distancing is to be required at all times (which isn't in fact how it has generally been expressed, hence the fact that the police cannot enforce it) we may as well give up on ballet resuming for the foreseeable future (with all the implications that brings). So I hope that decisions can be taken that are both realistic and responsible. And, of course, both dancers and audiences should only do what they personally find acceptable. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 On 15/05/2020 at 11:02, oncnp said: Of the on-line streams - "“People have been dressing up for their night in, making cocktails in the intervals,” Beard says. Maybe he reads the Forum? If so, and for the sake of a more complete picture, he should know that I watched Dust recently in my dressing gown. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 This article includes a photos of a distanced audience in Wiesbaden: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/19/arts/music/germany-music-coronavirus.html?smid=fb-share&fbclid=IwAR2CfY0fH9s9gjBPuuS0y_mmPspi-YkoGU_XWYmjGY6KWTsI82YyPGxaYRw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sim Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, capybara said: This article includes a photos of a distanced audience in Wiesbaden: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/19/arts/music/germany-music-coronavirus.html?smid=fb-share&fbclid=IwAR2CfY0fH9s9gjBPuuS0y_mmPspi-YkoGU_XWYmjGY6KWTsI82YyPGxaYRw How awful. Depressing for artist and audience, sterile and for me an experience that I will never have. 😢😢 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 It isn't how we want it to be. But perhaps it' s a start? At least the performers can perform, and I am sure the very small audience would be immensely apreciative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LH Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Maybe there are will be ways forward that will allow closer spacing .....e.g. with audiences having to wear masks, and performers getting regularly tested, as I believe German footballers are doing. Hopefully the new task force including Tamara Rojo will have some creative ideas. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 I just posted this in the cancellations thread but maybe it belongs here? https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2020/may/23/key-cultural-intstitutions-warn-facing-financial-collapse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Bluebird said: I just posted this in the cancellations thread but maybe it belongs here? https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2020/may/23/key-cultural-intstitutions-warn-facing-financial-collapse That article makes painful reading but I would like to see ideas for ways forward set alongside the valid but rather despairing pleas for cash. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJW Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Not sure if this is the correct thread ! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-52795691 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Thanks for posting MJW. Let's hope Prince Charles adding his voice helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Sorry if this is somewhere else but with elite sport/football training now being allowed for English teams, with no physical distancing restrictions during training, does that mean that dancers may soon be able to train/rehearse together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJW Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 23 minutes ago, JohnS said: Sorry if this is somewhere else but with elite sport/football training now being allowed for English teams, with no physical distancing restrictions during training, does that mean that dancers may soon be able to train/rehearse together? That would seem logical...but that doesn't necessarily mean that that they will be allowed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 I think with sport it has been justified because it is out of doors where the risk is considered less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMM1 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 English Premier League and Championship footballers can do non-contact training in groups of no more than 5 if they have tested negative in the tests that respective organising body have paid for and all the protocols that the organising body have put in place are adhered to. League One and Two players can only train individually with social distancing as there is currently no testing programme for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Oliver Dowden writes in The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2020/may/24/the-world-looks-to-british-theatre-so-lets-get-it-back-on-track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MJW Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 I saw that on IG earlier - quite disturbing and frankly unrealistic - I can't see many (if any) theatres etc being able to break even doing something like that. It would probably be cheaper for them not to open to the public at all. I'm sure also it would be a pretty ghastly experience for the audience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionaM Posted May 27, 2020 Author Share Posted May 27, 2020 25 minutes ago, MJW said: I saw that on IG earlier - quite disturbing and frankly unrealistic - I can't see many (if any) theatres etc being able to break even doing something like that. It would probably be cheaper for them not to open to the public at all. I'm sure also it would be a pretty ghastly experience for the audience! Agree on the financial consequences being unrealistic. However there are some advantages for the audience ... more legroom and better sightlines. No large head in front to dodge. Shorter queues for the loos! My problem is I couldn’t afford to pay more for the privilege though. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizbie1 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, MJW said: I saw that on IG earlier - quite disturbing and frankly unrealistic - I can't see many (if any) theatres etc being able to break even doing something like that. It would probably be cheaper for them not to open to the public at all. I can think of a few programmes I've seen with this level of take-up! Could be time for companies to put on their more esoteric repertoire? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynette H Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 The Old Vic is to stream a performance for a limited number of paying customers. Interesting to see if anyone else takes this approach. https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2020/may/27/claire-foy-matt-smith-live-stream-lungs-in-bid-to-save-old-vic-coronavirus-pandemic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Lynette H said: The Old Vic is to stream a performance for a limited number of paying customers. Interesting to see if anyone else takes this approach. https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2020/may/27/claire-foy-matt-smith-live-stream-lungs-in-bid-to-save-old-vic-coronavirus-pandemic I don't quite understand the rationale for it being for a limited number of paying customers - why not as many as wish to pay? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxDaveM Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 14 hours ago, bridiem said: I don't quite understand the rationale for it being for a limited number of paying customers - why not as many as wish to pay? Yes, I found that puzzling too. Laura Marling is doing the same thing for a gig from the Union Chapel. Perhaps they are trying to make it feel special, with that self satisfaction you get when nabbing a ticket for a show that gets sold out, in a limited sized venue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Just now, zxDaveM said: Yes, I found that puzzling too. Laura Marling is doing the same thing for a gig from the Union Chapel. Perhaps they are trying to make it feel special, with that self satisfaction you get when nabbing a ticket for a show that gets sold out, in a limited sized venue... Yes, I wondered if it might be something like that; but I would have thought that the right sort of marketing could entice more people/more money (and be more democratic, even if payment is involved). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxDaveM Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, bridiem said: Yes, I wondered if it might be something like that; but I would have thought that the right sort of marketing could entice more people/more money (and be more democratic, even if payment is involved). Yes, that would have been my reasoning too! Unless they intend repeat shows, or something like that? Where if everyone saw the first, they might not get much of a crowd for later shows. Doesn’t seem logical though, not to max out the first then perhaps limit later ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scheherezade Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 57 minutes ago, zxDaveM said: Perhaps they are trying to make it feel special, with that self satisfaction you get when nabbing a ticket for a show that gets sold out, in a limited sized venue... That still doesn’t make sense to me since surely that ‘special’ self satisfaction comes from the combination of managing to get a ticket for someone you particularly want to see coupled with the intimacy of being up close in a small and carefully chosen venue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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