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Did countries have similar measures in place when the SARS virus was doing the rounds?

 

I don't want in any way to sound flippant but this virus seems to be much less deadly overall than SARS and I don't remember everyone being so panic stricken by that.

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2 minutes ago, Dawnstar said:

 

I'm hoping I'll get to see Traviata on Saturday, especially as one of my favourite mezzos is making her ROH debut, but I'm not holding out much hope that I'll get to see what was supposed to be my first live Swan Lake (yes, I am very belated!) on 28th, let alone my April-May bookings. It's also difficult to know what to do about future bookings. Tomorrow not only does ROH summer season Friends booking opens but also Opera Holland Park's Inspire ticket booking. Between the two there are seven performances I wanted to book for June-August but goodness knows what state the country & the theatres will be in by then.

 

Hopefully we will be back to normality by then.

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I think because SARS was much less infectious than this current virus is so wasnt quite such a strain on the health service but the death rate seemed higher from SARS ..as it currently stands that is. 
Im worried they are going to start putting a curfew on us older members!  Especially those over 70 .... Was just wondering with a touch of makeup what age I could pass for 🙄 
 

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On 07/03/2020 at 20:10, LinMM said:

Reducing numbers seems pointless really. If there are 900 there that's enough if the virus was to become much more rampant.

Either keep them open or close them when it's required. 

You could have 1800 people in the audience and not one has the virus or 900 and two people have it!!! 

 

Maybe the RB should put on Frankenstein to reduce numbers naturally

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There were less than 9000 recorded SARS cases worldwide during the outbreak and approx 10% of those died. Covid-19 is well beyond that number and although a lower death rate the higher number of infected people means there are more sick people requiring intensive medical intervention and deaths. 

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4 minutes ago, Jane said:

There were less than 9000 recorded SARS cases worldwide during the outbreak and approx 10% of those died. Covid-19 is well beyond that number and although a lower death rate the higher number of infected people means there are more sick people requiring intensive medical intervention and deaths. 

 

Thank you Jane.

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46 minutes ago, LinMM said:


Im worried they are going to start putting a curfew on us older members!  Especially those over 70 .... Was just wondering with a touch of makeup what age I could pass for 🙄 
 

Will they ask for ID at the ROH then Lin?
there could be serious restrictions on opera and ballet audiences if so.

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2 hours ago, Jan McNulty said:

Did countries have similar measures in place when the SARS virus was doing the rounds?

 

I don't want in any way to sound flippant but this virus seems to be much less deadly overall than SARS and I don't remember everyone being so panic stricken by that.

Lombardy has a very efficient health care system, but of the usual 900 intensive care unit beds, 466 as today are occupied by Covid-19 patients only. More have been put in place but if the number of critical patients increases they would not be enough for Covid-19 patients and all the others requiring this kind of assistance.

The whole Italy has around 5000 beds and at the moment 877 patients: if other regions will reach the number of patients of Lombardy, the system would collapse.

This is the reason why Germany and France are already closing their theatres.

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2 hours ago, Dawnstar said:

I'm hoping I'll get to see Traviata on Saturday, especially as one of my favourite mezzos is making her ROH debut, but I'm not holding out much hope that I'll get to see what was supposed to be my first live Swan Lake (yes, I am very belated!) on 28th, let alone my April-May bookings. It's also difficult to know what to do about future bookings. Tomorrow not only does ROH summer season Friends booking opens but also Opera Holland Park's Inspire ticket booking. Between the two there are seven performances I wanted to book for June-August but goodness knows what state the country & the theatres will be in by then.

 

I'm going to book as normal tomorrow, since the ROH (and I assume most other venues, though I don't know) would refund if the performances were cancelled.

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I was joking a bit Shade!

I don’t think there will be an official curfew but it might be expected socially that us oldies should stay at home so may need to tart myself up a bit so can get away with being under 70 and people don’t tut when out and about! 😉
I suppose if things get really bad general

travel might be restricted and probably certainly theatres etc will be closed 😢 

I do hope Caesar gets at least one Swan Lake and one Prodigal Son in before this .. after his recent bad luck ...even if I don’t get to see him 😢

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Not sure where to put this but dancers at Staatsballett Berlin are reporting the cancellation of performances  into April, specifically Ratmansky’s Bayadere (13, 15, 17, 20 March) and Bart’s Swan Lake (14, 17, 22, 24, 25, 27 March and 2 April). Feel free to move this to a more appropriate forum...

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18 hours ago, Lizbie1 said:

 

Here's what I'd like to see: a communication from ROH and other theatres saying to stay away if you have any symptoms or are yourself vulnerable, accompanied by an offer to refund or exchange tickets; and hand sanitiser stations at strategic points.

 

 

I agree with this, although I think it would be difficult to enforce.

I'm afraid that human nature dictates that at least a portion of people with symptoms would still go to the theatres anyways, thinking that they're not too unwell or simply not wanting to miss the performance. Furthermore, as mentioned earlier, infected people are able to pass the virus on before showing any symptom. 

 

So I think it will do good to everyone to be extra vigilant. Besides hand-washing and avoidance of unnecessary contact, it may actually be a good time to start thinking about wearing masks. Granted, the scientific evidence has been mixed, which does not mean that evidence suggests mask-wearing is ineffective, but that it seems to only be effective under certain circumstances: properly worn, properly stored, worn at places where a mask is needed (which, arguably, includes a crowded indoor space such as a theatre), and coupled with other personal hygiene measures. I will admit that I personally have not been wearing a mask to the theatres so far, including two Swan Lake performances I attended last week, possibly overly confident in my relatively young age, but I would certainly not frown upon the sight of people wearing masks in theatres either.

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Stuttgart State Theatre is not canceling performances but spectators can cancel performances up to April 19th free of charge.

 

https://www.staatstheater-stuttgart.de/corona

 

So it is the same with this. 

  19 hours ago, Lizbie1 said:

 

Here's what I'd like to see: a communication from ROH and other theatres saying to stay away if you have any symptoms or are yourself vulnerable, accompanied by an offer to refund or exchange tickets; and hand sanitiser stations at strategic points.

 

 

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11 hours ago, Jeannette said:

Not sure where to put this but dancers at Staatsballett Berlin are reporting the cancellation of performances  into April, specifically Ratmansky’s Bayadere (13, 15, 17, 20 March) and Bart’s Swan Lake (14, 17, 22, 24, 25, 27 March and 2 April). Feel free to move this to a more appropriate forum...

 

This is now official from the Berlin Opera and ballet theatres  - ALL performances cancelled through mid April. Go to the Staatsballett and Staatsoper webs.

 

 

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Just now, Sim said:

I must say I have seen almost no-one wearing masks, either on the tube, buses, or in theatres. 

 

In Japan almost everyone wear masks, but it is impossible to purchase masks as they are out of stock, they form long queues in the morning in front of drug stores before they open in effort to buy them.  I wonder how everyone manages to get one. 

 

During the recent Paris Opera Ballet tour, the promoter were giving away masks to members of the audience if they don't wear one.  it was one of the very few performances that were held in Japan in March. The windows were open at the lobby to bring in fresh air, hand sanitizers were placed everywhere and thermography were placed at the entrance to measure the visitors' temperature.   

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I work with doctors and pharmacists, and they say that the efficacity of masks, especially the simple paper ones you can buy over the counter, is debatable.  They said that the best thing they accomplish is to stop us touching our own mouths and noses after we've touched something potentially contaminated with virus.  So that's a good thing, I guess!

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32 minutes ago, Sim said:

I work with doctors and pharmacists, and they say that the efficacity of masks, especially the simple paper ones you can buy over the counter, is debatable.  They said that the best thing they accomplish is to stop us touching our own mouths and noses after we've touched something potentially contaminated with virus.  So that's a good thing, I guess!

But other experts say they are worse than useless because the discomfort of wearing one makes people touch their faces more!

We are being told that the only people who should wear masks are those who are already sick (who shouldn't be out in public anyway)

 

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I can’t wear them ...not that I’ve got one anyway.....there’s a good reason for this fairly specific to myself so I would just have to risk without but if forced to in a theatre wouldn’t go in unfortunately. I don’t mind at all if others wear them but not for me. 

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4 minutes ago, toursenlair said:

But other experts say they are worse than useless because the discomfort of wearing one makes people touch their faces more!

 

Yes, this was clearly the case with some people who were wearing masks at the ROH last night. Constant fiddling and re-adjustment.

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15 minutes ago, toursenlair said:

But other experts say they are worse than useless because the discomfort of wearing one makes people touch their faces more!

 

I think you are right that the evidence has been mixed, i.e. different studies are finding results contradicting with each other in terms of effectiveness. So it depends on which ones one choose to believe. As far as I am concerned either way is not unreasonable. 

 

I also think it is helpful to not think of a singular measure as "the most important one" or "all you need to do is this". Washing hands constantly, avoiding unnecessary physical contacts, not touching your faces, coughing into tissues rather than your hands... etc are all equally warranted. It'd be dangerous to think that one is exempt from some of them because (s)he's done the others. The same goes with people who decide to wear a mask, of course.

 

At the end of the day it has not been my habit to wear one, I just hope to put it out there that I am personally not against other people wearing it, in case anyone wishes to do so but is concerned about other people's judgement. :)

 

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The biggest single measure the Government should take is to ensure an adequate supply of the right kind (i.e. alcohol-based) sanitiser both in the shops and for public places. Without this particular supply chain, some of the advisories become meaningless.

 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, capybara said:

The biggest single measure the Government should take is to ensure an adequate supply of the right kind (i.e. alcohol-based) cleanser both in the shops and for public places. Without this particular supply chain, some of the advisories become meaningless.

 

Easier said than done though?

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This from the Canadian Public Health Agency:

Wearing masks

If you are a healthy individual, the use of a mask is not recommended for preventing the spread of COVID-19.

Wearing a mask when you are not ill may give a false sense of security. There is a potential risk of infection with improper mask use and disposal. They also need to be changed frequently.

However, your health care provider may recommend you wear a mask if you are experiencing symptoms of COVID-19 while you are seeking or waiting for care. In this instance, masks are an appropriate part of infection prevention and control measures. The mask acts as a barrier and helps stop the tiny droplets from spreading you when you cough or sneeze.

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1 hour ago, Naomi M said:

Stuttgart State Theatre is not canceling performances but spectators can cancel performances up to April 19th free of charge.

 

They will be closing down everything until April 19th, too. I'm going cold turkey...

 

Go and visit as much dance, theatre and concerts as you can, dear folks in Britain, you're just a few days behind. 

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1 minute ago, Angela said:

 

They will be closing down everything until April 19th, too. I'm going cold turkey...

 

Go and visit as much dance, theatre and concerts as you can, dear folks in Britain, you're just a few days behind. 

...and maybe they should not run to try to surpass us...

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