FLOSS Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) We are nearly at the end of the second decade of the twenty-first century and seasoned ballet goers in Britain, France, the USA and perhaps elsewhere are concerned about the loss through neglect of major works created during the twentieth century which having all but disappeared from the active repertory as on the rare occasions they are staged they look more like resurrections than revivals. Imagine you could save some of these ballets , which would you choose for preservation as part of a company's living repertory as its " twentieth century classics" ? Whose ballet's would you be prepared to describe as "twentieth century classics" and which of their works would you select for preservation through regular revival ? I am interested to see whether there is any sort of consensus as to what a company's twentieth century repertory selected to illustrate the best of that century's creations would look like. In order to discover what we each think a repertory which included the essential works of Ashton and Balanchine would look like I am imposing an arbitrary limit of ten works apiece for the two men generally regarded as the greatest choreographer's of the twentieth century and five apiece for the lesser choreographic luminaries of the period. Edited August 11, 2019 by FLOSS 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy Lin Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 BALANCHINE: 1) Apollo 2) Symphony in C 3) Serenade 4) Four Temperaments 5) Agon 6) Ballet Imperial 7) Symphony in Three Movements 😎 Midsummer's Night Dream 9) Nutcracker 10) Jewels Ashton: 1) Fille mal gardee 2) The Dream 3) Symphonic Variations 4) Cinderella 5) Daphnis et Chloe 6) Scenes de Ballet 7) Sylvia 😎 Monotones I and II 9) Two Pigeons 10) A Month in the Country Robbins: 1) Dances at a Gathering 2) Fancy Free 3) The Cage 4) The Four Seasons 5) The Concert MacMillan: 1) Romeo and Juliet (his version) 2) Mayerling 3) Manon - even though it's not my favorite ballet Cranko: 1) Onegin 2) Romeo and Juliet (his version) Fokine: 1) Firebird 2) Les Sylphides 3) Scheherezade 4) Petrushka 5) Dying Swan Twyla Tharp: 1) In the Upper Room 2) Deuce Coupe 3) Push Comes to Shove Yuri Grigorovich: - Sparctacus Leonid Lavrovsky: - Romeo and Juliet (his version) These aren't necessarily my favorite works, just the works I don't see going out of repertory anytime soon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Pigeons Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Good see Fokine being included, I think he gets overlooked two often. May I suggest that Tudor should also be included, for all that his work is very rarely performed. So Lilac Garden Shadow play Dark Elegies I would also add Requiem and Song of the Earth to the Macmillan list 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Pigeons Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 P.s. Added to that, Theme and Variations for Balanchine? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane S Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Nijinska: Les Biches Les Noces 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Thanks so much for starting this thread, FLOSS. So interesting to see what is emerging. I hope that you are going to share your own thoughts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryrosesatonapin Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 I don't think Ashton and Balanchine are the greatest choreographers of the C20th. I believe this to be a very UK/US-centric view (though Balanchine was actually Russo-Georgian). The works which I would absolutely hate to see lost are: L’Apres-Midi d’un Faune (1912) – Nijinsky/Debussy – Paris Petrouchka (1911) – Fokine/Stravinsky – Paris Spartacus (1956) Yakobsen/Kachachurian – Kirov Firebird (1910) Fokine/Stravinsky – Paris Les Sylphides (1907) Fokine/Chopin – Mariinsky The Bright Stream (1935) – Lopukhov/Shostakovich – Mikhailovsky - based purely on the rave reviews on this forum, as I have never seen it live! Rite of Spring (1913) – Nijinsky/Stravinsky – Paris Carmen (1949) – Petit/Bizet – Paris Symphony in C (1947) – Balanchine/Bizet - Paris Romeo and Juliet (1977) – Nureyev/Prokofiev - London There are many other masterpieces of course. I hope the best live on for ever for future dancers, audiences and musicians to relish. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 BALANCHINE: Symphony in C Concerto Barocco Agon Theme and Variations Serenade Mozartiana Jewels Apollo The Four Temperaments Ballet Imperial ASHTON: The Dream La fille mal gardée Cinderella A Month in the Country Les Patineurs Symphonic Variations Scènes de Ballet La Valse The Two Pigeons Rhapsody MacMILLAN: And here, I'm afraid I'm going to stamp my foot and refuse to play. I CANNOT keep only 5, so I have expanded it to 8. On my own head be it: Romeo and Juliet Mayerling Manon Requiem Song of the Earth Concerto Gloria The Rite of Spring AND (I'm aware that my list includes a few that may not count as 'ballet', and I'm sure excludes others that should be there but that I haven't seen or seen often enough): FOKINE - Les Sylphides, The Firebird NIJINSKA - Les Noces DE VALOIS - Checkmate ROBBINS - Dances at a Gathering TETLEY - Pierrot Lunaire MORRIS - L'allegro, il penseroso ed il moderato BINTLEY - 'Still Life' at the Penguin Café, Consort Lessons, Galanteries, Tombeaux BAUSCH - The Rite of Spring SHECHTER - Political Mother KHAN - Giselle, Desh, Dust McGREGOR - Woolf Works PITE - Flight Pattern TAYLOR - Airs CORDER - Cinderella (ENB) SCARLETT - Asphodel Meadows 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabine0308 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) I would like to add the following: Bejart - Kabuki, Bolero Forsythe - In the middle somewhat elecated Neumeier - Kameliendame And very close to my heart, hopefully not lost already: Tom Schilling's work for Komische Oper Ballet in Berlin, especially his "Romeo&Juliet". Sadly, the maestro refuses to this day to release his work for other companies. I wish him a long life (he is 91 years now), but I do wish to see his wonderful choreographed again. Edited August 11, 2019 by Sabine0308 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Wall Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) Surely Bridem the Shechter, Khan, McGregor, Pite and Scarlett pieces are all of the 21st Century. Classics??? Time will, of course, tell. It always does. There are definite additions to that list if it is to include this current century. Could there be a list for the 21st Century and NO Ratmansky??? His Concerto DSCH; his Plato's Symposium; his Pictures at an Exhibition; his Namouna - so many works to choose from. Still, that's out of context for this particular strand. With Balanchine I would like to think that Square Dance, Stravinsky Violin Concerto and Brahms Schoenberg Quartet might be added. Edited August 11, 2019 by Bruce Wall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninamargaret Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Interesting thread, broadly in agreement with most suggestions. Would like to add extra pleas for the Tudor ballets mentioned and Nijinska's Les Noces and Les Biches. Also Van Manen's works should not disappear, Four Schumann Pieces certainly worth keeping. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Bruce Wall said: Surely Bridem the Shechter, Khan, McGregor, Pite and Scarlett pieces are all of the 21st Century. Classics??? Time will, of course, tell. It always does. There are definite additions to that list if it is to include this current century. Could there be a list for the 21st Century and NO Ratmansky??? His Concerto DSCH; his Plato's Symposium; his Pictures at an Exhibition; his Namouna - so many works to choose from. Still, that's out of context for this particular strand. With Balanchine I would like to think that Square Dance, Stravinsky Violin Concerto and Brahms Schoenberg Quartet might be added. Oops - very true, Bruce! I'd forgotten how quickly time is going... Well at least that makes my list a little shorter! But yes, I think they may be classics of this century. (I haven't seen enough Ratmansky pieces to have included any - however erroneously - though I hope that will be rectified in due course.) Edited August 11, 2019 by bridiem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridiem Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, ninamargaret said: Interesting thread, broadly in agreement with most suggestions. Would like to add extra pleas for the Tudor ballets mentioned and Nijinska's Les Noces and Les Biches. Also Van Manen's works should not disappear, Four Schumann Pieces certainly worth keeping. I was tempted to include Four Schumann Pieces, but I wondered if I was over-influenced by it being such a tremendous role for Anthony Dowell, who I idolised. I'd love to see it again to see how I feel about it now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNC Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Thanks @FLOSS for starting an interesting thread and others for contributing. I am not enough of a ballet expert to comment myself, but I hope it’s ok to mention a book I bought recently - it’s ‘ballet: the definitive illustrated history’ by DK which mentions many of the works above and I found to be a good broad overview of ballet for someone who doesn’t know much. Just wanted to mention it in case some might enjoy reading it, though it may not be expert enough for some here as you may know it all already! Anyway sorry for a bit of an off topic post! I shall follow the thread with interest and hope to see RB (and other companies) showing these works in future! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianlond Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) Here goes.... Ashton: Symphonic Variations (it has to be this first; for me, it is THE best ballet, full stop). Scenes de ballet Cinderella Daphnis and Chloe (when will we see this again??) La Fille mal gardee The Dream Monotones (both of them!) Enigma Variations Rhapsody (then I’m torn between A Month in the Country, Les Rendezvous & Acts 1 & parts of Act 3 of Sylvia). Probably, Month then. Balanchine: Apollo Serenade Symphony in C Theme and Variations Agon Stravinsky Violin Concerto Liebslieser Walzer Jewels Symphony in Three Movements Ballo Della Regina (possibly) or Ballet Imperial/ Tschaikovsky Piano Concerto No. 2 Fokine: The Firebird Petrushka Les Sylphides (?) Robbins: Dances at a Gathering The Goldberg Variations The Concert In G Major Afternoon of a Faun (or Nijinsky, if possible). MacMillan: Mayerling Concerto The Rite of Spring (maybe - I prefer the Pina Bausch version but that really isn’t ballet. But then what is ballet...?) Song of the Earth Gloria Romeo and Juliet (I guess). Tudor: Dark Elergies Forsythe: In the Middle, Somewhat Elevated (certainly a 20th Century classic for me!) Quintett The Vertiginous Thrill of Exactitude Nijinska: Les Noces Les Biches (come on RB! These are really significant and need to be performed). Cranko: Onegin (not my thing but has earned its ‘classic’ status me thinks!) I am sorry to say I haven’t seen any other Cranko Petit: Carmen Neumeier: The Lady of the Camillias Nijinsky Bejart? Birgit Culberg Miss Julie? Hans van Manen? Mark Morris, Pina Bausch & Mats Ek but they, for me, are fine examples of Modern/ Contemporary dance rather than ballet, usually Edited August 11, 2019 by Ianlond 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betterankles Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 In addition Bejart: Rite of Spring, Song of a Wayfarer, Serait-ce la Mort (Four Last Songs), Romeo and Juliet Neumeier: Illusions like Swan Lake, Tudor, Dark Elegies: Lilac Garden Robbins: opus ? The Dreamer, Faun Mats Ek: Giselle Jiri Kylian: Forgotten Land Balanchine: 4 Temperaments Dolin: Pas de Quatre 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_emeralds Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Balanchine Theme and Variations Liebesleider waltzer Apollo Stravinsky Violin Concerto Jewels Agon Serenade 4 Temperaments Western Symphony Concerto Barocco (Though I would also really want to add Duo Concertant, Brahms-Schoenberg Quartet and Chaconne)Robbins Afternoon of a Faun In the night Dances at a Gathering Opus 19 / The Dreamer Other DancesMacmillan Romeo & Juliet Concerto Requiem Manon Song of the EarthLander EtudesNijinska Les NocesFokine Les Sylphides The firebird 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naomi M Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 More modern works should be included, such as Kurt Joss The Green Table Pina Baush (in addition to Rite of Spring) Cafe Muller, Nelken, Kontakthof & more Anthony Tudor The Leaves are Fading Jiri Kylian Petit Mort, Bella Figura William Forsythe Artifact Suite, Steptext Roland Petit Le Jeune Homme et La Mort, L'Arlesienne John Neumeier 3rd Symphony of Gustav Mahler (& more) Matthew Bourne Swan Lake (1995) Angelin Preljocaj Le Parc Uwe Scholz Beethoven 7th Symphony 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pas de Quatre Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) I was going to suggest some of the works on Naomi M's list too. Surely Béjart should also include his version of Firebird and Bolero. Edited August 12, 2019 by Pas de Quatre 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianlond Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) The Green Table, yes. Interesting that Matthew Bourne’s Swan Lake has been mentioned. Yes it’s danced to a score originally written for ballet but (assuming this is what Floss meant) is it a 20th Century ballet classic? Certainly, the style of movement - while influenced to a degree by ballet - isn’t the same. I could go on about this but won’t. It would however be interesting to think about which contemporary dance works should be saved for the repertoire (although not on this thread!) as there seems to be even less desire (?) to do this; when was a major work from the LCDT (London Contemporary Dance Theatre) era staged? As Naomi M mentioned, there are many works of mid and late century choreographers from around the world whose own companies are no longer active but possibly still deserve to be performed and do not fit into a ‘classical’ company’s repertoire. Sorry for taking this thread in an obtuse direction! Edited August 12, 2019 by Ianlond 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naomi M Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 9 hours ago, JNC said: I am not enough of a ballet expert to comment myself, but I hope it’s ok to mention a book I bought recently - it’s ‘ballet: the definitive illustrated history’ by DK which mentions many of the works above and I found to be a good broad overview of ballet for someone who doesn’t know much. Just wanted to mention it in case some might enjoy reading it, though it may not be expert enough for some here as you may know it all already! Anyway sorry for a bit of an off topic post! I shall follow the thread with interest and hope to see RB (and other companies) showing these works in future! Actually I was working on supervising the Japanese translation of this book which will be published here in November. This book does name many 20th century works and the choice or works and choreographers are very interesting. (it is of course quite UK centered but nevertheless it does offer a comprehensive view) And it does also mention Bourne's Swan Lake as one of the modern classics. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane S Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I think almost the most interesting thing about these suggestions is the total absence of anything by Massine, who for 20 or 30 years of the 20th century was regarded as one of the greatest choreographers of his time - apart from anything else it shows how rash it would be to predict that any of today's most praised work will survive! But perhaps some of his ballets should be kept alive somewhere - Le Tricorne, La Boutique Fantasque, Les Presages, even? - or maybe the Red Shoes will be all that keeps his name remembered. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naomi M Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 53 minutes ago, Jane S said: I think almost the most interesting thing about these suggestions is the total absence of anything by Massine, who for 20 or 30 years of the 20th century was regarded as one of the greatest choreographers of his time - apart from anything else it shows how rash it would be to predict that any of today's most praised work will survive! But perhaps some of his ballets should be kept alive somewhere - Le Tricorne, La Boutique Fantasque, Les Presages, even? - or maybe the Red Shoes will be all that keeps his name remembered. Recently there was a broadcast here of Rome Opera Ballet's double bill of Massine works, Parade and Pulcinella, filmed in 2017 so fairly recent one. https://www.operaroma.it/en/shows/parade-pulcinella/ https://www.medici.tv/en/ballets/parade-pulcinella-grand-theatre-romain-de-pompei/ It was reconstructed by Massine's sone Lorca 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnneL Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I also noticed the absence of Le Tricorne. Massine apart, isn’t de Falla music and Picasso designs enough to make something a great artistic work of the 20th century? I would also put in a word for Spectre de la Rose by Fokine. Yes, it is very short, but I would hate to see that lost. I could also make a case for Miracle in the Gorbals (Helpmann) - maybe a bit dated, but of historical importance with a score by Arthur Bliss. I found it impressive when BRB revived it a few years ago with Gillian Lynne’s help. Finally, a couple of comic works which I think need preservation: Ashton’s Facade and Cranko’s Pineapple Poll. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Wall Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jane S said: RE MASSINE '- or maybe the Red Shoes will be all that keeps his name remembered.' If that WERE to be the case, it would be sad indeed - and I think blur so much key historical input in meaningful terms of 20th Century ballet. Edited August 12, 2019 by Bruce Wall 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) As I moved between countries a few times, the below list is hugely influenced by company’s repertoires at the time e.g., works that were last shown at the Royal Opera House before 2006, I will in all likelihood not have seen; the same principle applies to other locations. I am thus coming from a perspective of “works that are something special” rather than works that have already been lost/ are running the risk of being lost. I am avoiding a discussion as to which choreographers are more important than others and am thus keeping all nominations to a maximum of 5 works per choreographer. MacMillan – Romeo & Juliet, Mayerling, Concerto, Song of the Earth, Requiem, Gloria Cranko – Romeo & Juliet, Onegin, Initials R.M.B.E., Brouillards, Concerto for Flute & Harp Robbins – Dances at a Gathering, The Concert, Glass Pieces, En Sol Ashton – Rhapsody, Monotones I/II Balanchine – Jewels, Symphony in C, The Four Temperaments Tetley – Sacre du Printemps, Voluntaries Bintley – Carmina Burana, Still Life at the Penguin Café Forsythe – In the Middle, Somewhat Elevated, Herman Schmerman Duet Bausch – Sacre du Printemps Jooss – The Green Table Scholz – Air!, The Creation Petit – L’Arlesienne Bejart – Bolero, Songs of a Wayfarer, 9th Symphony, Le Presbytere, Seven Greek Dances Lander – Etudes Kylian – Falling Angels, Sinfonietta van Manen – Kammerballett Childs – Four Elements Bruce – Rooster Neumeier - Nijinsky As for those works that should be revived on a regular basis … many more. Edited August 12, 2019 by Duck typo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm365 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 As a huge fan of Bejart, I regret that probably so many of his works are not revivable - Notre Faust is one of the most exciting things I have ever seen, but I don't know what sort of records exist of it. Ditto Moliere. I was working my way down this thread, having come to it a bit late, also wondering why Massine was not mentioned, so I'm very glad to see that he has now appeared and agree with the ballets suggested - he was after all one of the first to make a 'symphonic' ballet. I would put in a word for Lifar's Suite en Blanc too. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LH Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Naomi M said: Actually I was working on supervising the Japanese translation of this book which will be published here in November. This book does name many 20th century works and the choice or works and choreographers are very interesting. (it is of course quite UK centered but nevertheless it does offer a comprehensive view) I can recommend this book too, both as a good source of ballet information (consultant Viviana Durante) and lovely pictures, and as a solid, sizeable hand support for operating one's PC ! Edited August 12, 2019 by Richard LH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LH Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Naomi M said: And it does also mention Bourne's Swan Lake as one of the modern classics. The book refers to it as a bold reinterpretation of a cherished classical ballet, thrust into contemporary dance. Not really the same as saying this production has itself become a classic ballet. Edited August 12, 2019 by Richard LH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan McNulty Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Ashton: La Fille Mal Gardee The Dream Symphonic Variations Scenes de Ballet Two Pigeons Facade Les Patineurs Balanchine: Symphony in 3 Movements Symphony in C Theme and Variations Apollo Agon Four Temperaments Bintley: Tombeaux Still Life at the Penguin Cafe Hobson's Choice Far from the Madding Crowd Edward ll Cranko: Onegin Taming of the Shrew Pineapple Poll MacMillan: Mayerling Manon Concerto Gloria Requiem Song of the Earth Solitaire Grigorovich: Spartacus 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanJL Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I don't have a deep enough knowledge to do a full list, but two favourite Macmillan ballets I don't think I've seen mentioned so far and I'd certainly like to be saved: Elite Syncopations Winter Dreams 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Pigeons Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 If we are talking about Massine - Choreartium deserves a mention. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now