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Wow. Just realized Bonelli and Cuthbertson get the SB live screening! I thought it was going to be Naghdi and Ball. At least I'll be able to see Cuthbertson as Aurora in the cinema again! She is my favorite Aurora at the RB. 

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1 hour ago, penelopesimpson said:

Why do do we need Hallberg?

 

I think that I have already said my piece on this elsewhere on the forum but he is becoming too much of a permanent fixture for my liking (especially when one considers, for example, that Clarke does not have a (public) performance of Des Grieux).

 

I am:

  • thrilled for Anna Rose O'Sullivan
  • pleased to see Sambe and Corrales cast in roles for which they are ideally suited
  • glad that Magri is having an increasing number of opportunities
  • surprised that Naghdi hasn't been given  a Manon
  • sorry that Muntagirov never seems to dance with one of the younger ballerinas; and
  • disappointed with some of the other pairings

and (sort of) glad that I am not going to have to spend quite as much in this booking period as I had anticipated.

 

 

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1 hour ago, balletyas said:

A certain Mr Watson conspicuous by his absence. Is Firebird going to be his swan song? :((((((

 

Didn't someone say he was supposed to be featuring in the new McGregor next year? :( 

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4 minutes ago, HappyTurk said:

Wow. Just realized Bonelli and Cuthbertson get the SB live screening! I thought it was going to be Naghdi and Ball. At least I'll be able to see Cuthbertson as Aurora in the cinema again! She is my favorite Aurora at the RB. 

 

It's Opening Night/Cinema relay in reverse (R&J and SB) Cuthbertson/Ball got Opening Night R&J, Naghdi/Ball get the R&J cinema relay, Sleeping Beauty Opening Night is given to Naghdi/Ball and cinema relay to Cuthbertson/Bonelli. 

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18 minutes ago, Xandra Newman said:

 

 Sleeping Beauty Opening Night is given to Naghdi/Ball and cinema relay to Cuthbertson/Bonelli. 

 

Disappointed with this cinema cast given that we already have a Cuthertson Aurora recorded in this production.  Surely it would be time to allow someone else to share the historic glory.  It's not as it if comes along all that often.  

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I think Hallberg is still being featured because they have yet to find Osipova a go-to partner in the principal ranks ever since Matthew Golding left. Obviously, Muntagirov and Osipova have great chemistry but he is Nunez's go-to partner. So until she retires, we won't see him dancing with Osipova more or even the younger principals. In fact, he is often paired with Lamb too -- leaving very few room for others.  In any case, I'm excited for Osipova's and Muntagirov's pairing in Raymonda ACT III. 

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53 minutes ago, LinMM said:

Many thanks for posting Richard ....is this a Friends casting info...it's so detailed amazing!

Unfortunately I only got as far as the triple and it started blacking out the pages so perhaps has sensed I may not be privy to this info as am not a Friend?? Did anyone else get this problem?

I don't understand why you have had problems Lin, but  I am pretty sure it is nothing to do with the fact you are not a Friend!

(As far as I am aware,  balletcoforum is not able to censure  downloads of pdfs based on the ROH membership status of the user)!

Would you like me to send  it to you as an attachment to a private message, and see if that works?  

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That would be very kind of you Richard. Thankyou!! 

I often get this problem when reading the Bolshoi Newsletter for some reason as well.

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4 minutes ago, Bruce Wall said:

 

Disappointed with this cinema cast given that we already have a Cuthertson Aurora recorded in this production.  Surely it would be time to allow someone else to share the historic glory.  It's not as it if comes along all that often.  

Well, they did give Nunez two screenings in SL. So I see no problem why they can't do it again for Cuthbertson especially considering Kevin O' Hare wasn't director at the time when she was featured with Sergei -- right? In fact, I don't think he was the director when Nunez was first featured back in 2011/2012? My memory is quite shoddy.  

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2 minutes ago, Bruce Wall said:

 

Disappointed with this cinema cast given that we already have a Cuthertson Aurora recorded in this production.  Surely it would be time to allow someone else to share the historic glory.  It's not as it if comes along all that often.  

 

Plus it is Nunez and Muntagirov, yet again, for the Coppelia live screening...

 

At least the cast for the triple bill live screening will be a bit more diverse.

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6 minutes ago, HappyTurk said:

Well, they did give Nunez two screenings in SL. So I see no problem why they can't do it again especially considering Kevin O' Hare wasn't director at the time -- right? 

 

Of course they CAN, HappyTurk.  It's only that I thought it would be a wonderful opportunity to showcase one of the younger dancers who have had experience in this role - given the nature of the specific role (e.g., Aurora) itself.  I would have thought after all the celebration that Naghdi got with her SFB Aurora (opposite the stellar Joseph Walsh - have you seen him yet, HappyTurk - you really should if you can while they are here) that it might have been an inducement.  That said, Naghdi will have a lot of opportunities.

 

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4 minutes ago, Bruce Wall said:

 

Of course they CAN, HappyTurk.  It's only that I thought it would be a wonderful opportunity to showcase one of the younger dancers who have had experience in this role - given the nature of the specific role itself.  

I see your point. Maybe it's because I feel Cuthbertson is often overlooked that I feel like defending their decision. Ha. I'm quite biased towards her! And I'll have to check him out! Are there any videos of Joseph Walsh on YouTube? I'll investigate...

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5 minutes ago, Bruce Wall said:

 

Disappointed with this cinema cast given that we already have a Cuthertson Aurora recorded in this production.  Surely it would be time to allow someone else to share the historic glory.  It's not as it if comes along all that often.  

 

Guess Mr. O'Hare has to keep ALL his principals happy, older and younger ones alike so he gave the Coppelia cinema relay to Nunez (I would have preferred to see Hayward as Swanhilda) and the Sleeping Beauty relay to Cuthbertson (I would have preferred seeing Naghdi as Aurora). The existing recording of Cuthbertson dancing Aurora is not one of the best I have seen (she really struggled with those famous balances). 

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I wonder whether this may be Bonnelli's final performance in the role, which might explain why that pairing is being given the cinema relay?

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Just now, Lindsay said:

I wonder whether this may be Bonnelli's final performance in the role, which might explain why that pairing is being given the cinema relay?

That's what I was thinking...

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1 hour ago, balletyas said:

 

I don’t know and having not seen him can’t judge but so disappointed re Ed. Autumn season so very NOT his bag other than Des Grieux so not really surprising but i would have thought they’d schedule in one of his smaller roles - such a shame Macmillan anniversary has passed and perhaps he himself opted out of DG... 😢

I have, and have had for nearly a year now, this feeling that Ed has gone.  I know he is down for Firebird but then he vanishes, so that will make just two performances in two years.  There has been no news (or I have missed it) and given how many fans he has I am a little fed up about this.  As I've said before, I don't want injury details or to know about his personal life, but this continuing silence is odd.  He is rarely mentioned on this forum which makes me think those in the know are just that.  I would very much like to know if Firebird is to be his exit.

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14 minutes ago, HappyTurk said:

Maybe it's because I feel Cuthbertson is often overlooked that I feel like defending their decision. Ha. I'm quite biased towards her!

 

9 minutes ago, Lindsay said:

I wonder whether this may be Bonnelli's final performance in the role, which might explain why that pairing is being given the cinema relay?

 

I was wondering the same.

 

Bonelli and Cuthbertson seemed to become a regular partnership by default after her blossoming partnership with Polunin came to a abrupt end in 2012 - I've never quite felt that they tend to "catch fire" as a couple on stage.  Coupled with her two lengthy periods out with injury since then (as well as her earlier period of illness), I feel that she's really spent her whole career fighting against adversity rather than being blessed with a relatively smooth ride like some of her colleagues.

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Never mind the autumn - how about next weeks triple bill? When will we hear who the replacements are!!

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35 minutes ago, HappyTurk said:

And I'll have to check him out! Are there any videos of Joseph Walsh on YouTube? I'll investigate...

 

Given the current opportunity I, myself, always feel that live is best.  He repeats his stunning assignment in Ratmansky on Sunday ... but this is all away from the core of this (happy) topic.  

 

Here is an interview - interspersed with dancing - from 2006 when he was with Houston (alongside the equally stellar Aaron Robison now too back with SFB) ... Both have only ever gotten better since then :) 

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10 minutes ago, RuthE said:

 

 

I was wondering the same.

 

Bonelli and Cuthbertson seemed to become a regular partnership by default after her blossoming partnership with Polunin came to a abrupt end in 2012 - I've never quite felt that they tend to "catch fire" as a couple on stage.  Coupled with her two lengthy periods out with injury since then (as well as her earlier period of illness), I feel that she's really spent her whole career fighting against adversity rather than being blessed with a relatively smooth ride like some of her colleagues.

And combined with the fact that she hasn't danced Giselle and Odette/Odile as often because of her injuries, it might be a while until she is shown for those two as well. In fact, some of the younger three principals might be shown before her. So I think it is appropriate she is given a SB live screening (so she doesn't experience a drought in the "classics"). 

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Just now, Bruce Wall said:

 

Given the current opportunity I, myself, always feel that live is best.  He repeats his stunning assignment in Ratmansky on Sunday.  

I'm intrigued! I will have to go see him when I have the chance. 

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2 hours ago, Lindsay said:

 

 

(a) that analogy doesn't make sense on any level

 

(b) just don't buy tickets for any more of his performances - problem solved.  You're welcome!

Sorry about that.  Suppose I thought the terms were very much everyday parlance at the moment.  I am sure I don't need to clarify discussion forum (?) but a referendum is  'submission of an issue of public importance to the direct vote of the electorate for an agreed decision.'

 

I understand your support for Halberg and am only envious that I never saw him at his prime.  But I don't think that should make the views of those of us who would prefer him not to become a regular guest with RB subject to dismissal.

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Well put, Ruth E.  I have been a long-time fan of Cuthbertson and would agree she has certainly been put through the mill with her career.  More power to her for battling adversity and giving us such wonderful performances.  My favourite for her is Winter's Tale and her Alice is, well, she IS Alice.  

 

However, I agree that she and Bonelli don't always work so well.  He is magical with Morera and I hate the thought that he will be leaving.  He will be much missed.

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56 minutes ago, Xandra Newman said:

 

It's Opening Night/Cinema relay in reverse (R&J and SB) Cuthbertson/Ball got Opening Night R&J, Naghdi/Ball get the R&J cinema relay, Sleeping Beauty Opening Night is given to Naghdi/Ball and cinema relay to Cuthbertson/Bonelli. 

 

59 minutes ago, alison said:

 

Didn't someone say he was supposed to be featuring in the new McGregor next year? :( 

I dont think I heard that but I suppose it’s possible - I hope you’re right! 

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29 minutes ago, Xandra Newman said:

 

Guess Mr. O'Hare has to keep ALL his principals happy, older and younger ones alike so he gave the Coppelia cinema relay to Nunez (I would have preferred to see Hayward as Swanhilda) and the Sleeping Beauty relay to Cuthbertson (I would have preferred seeing Naghdi as Aurora). The existing recording of Cuthbertson dancing Aurora is not one of the best I have seen (she really struggled with those famous balances). 

 

Although her Act 2 Ashton solo is just about perfection on that relay...

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27 minutes ago, penelopesimpson said:

I have, and have had for nearly a year now, this feeling that Ed has gone.  I know he is down for Firebird but then he vanishes, so that will make just two performances in two years.  There has been no news (or I have missed it) and given how many fans he has I am a little fed up about this.  As I've said before, I don't want injury details or to know about his personal life, but this continuing silence is odd.  He is rarely mentioned on this forum which makes me think those in the know are just that.  I would very much like to know if Firebird is to be his exit.

I’m sorry I keep trying to reply to you but getting stucksomehow. I just don’t know - I’ve seen him coaching others and he looks perfectly fit and judging by his social media he seems thrilled to be dancing next week but I agree with uou the silence on here is pretty deafening! Maybe they aren’t willing to risk anything major on him and he’ll jyst appear in the McGregor next year as it can be perhaps more tailored to his strengths...who knows but gosh I couldn’t bear for him not to get a 5* send off! 

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5 minutes ago, Jamesrhblack said:

 

Although her Act 2 Ashton solo is just about perfection on that relay...

Aside from the balances, her portrayal and very Fonteyn-styled dancing is perfection. 

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Thanks for sharing Richard LH! 

 

I'm sad to be missing Hayward in Manon (I'm off on holiday!) but will see Lamb instead as I've not seen her before, and her Manon seemed to get good reviews. 

 

Excited for Hayward/Naghdi in SB. Also looking forward to Hayward in Coppelia, would loved to have seen Anna Rose as well as I think she'd be perfect for the role, but unfortunately as it's the Christmas period I'll likely be out of London - but will try and see Morera instead (another dancer I haven't seen before!). Interesting that Osipova hasn't been cast for Coppelia as wasn't it one of her well known roles at the Bolshoi; and I think she'd be great in it actually (the dramatic and 'exaggerated' side of Swanilda?). 

 

I wonder why if casting is finalised to this level that they can't release it to the website? Perhaps it's supposed to be a perk of being a friend that you know casting earlier but this isn't mentioned as a benefit in their membership options. 

 

As someone else has already said, it's also odd that they can release this level of casting detail (e.g. for Manon Lescaut's Mistress and G.M.) whereas on the website it's usually just Manon/De Grieux/Lescaut. Perhaps this is a poor example though as Manon is first up so they likely have more detailed casting available for this one! It'll be interesting to see if once it does go up on the website, if they'll list the same detail! 

 

Overall I'm pretty pleased with the Autumn's offering, lots of role debuts! 

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1 hour ago, capybara said:

 

I think that I have already said my piece on this elsewhere on the forum but he is becoming too much of a permanent fixture for my liking (especially when one considers, for example, that Clarke does not have a (public) performance of Des Grieux).

 

 

 

 

Just a surmise (never speculate), but perhaps Clarke isn’t cast as Des Grieux because it is anticipated that he may not be back to full fitness after the injury that took him out of Romeo and Juliet.

 

I’m not intending to further ignite the Hallberg question, but as he had to miss his performances through injury last time, it may have been felt that it was appropriate to revisit the invitation while he was still dancing. And, of course, it has been often attested by Osipova and Hallberg how much they enjoy dancing together.

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4 minutes ago, JNC said:

Thanks for sharing Richard LH! 

 

I'm sad to be missing Hayward in Manon (I'm off on holiday!) but will see Lamb instead as I've not seen her before, and her Manon seemed to get good reviews. 

 

Excited for Hayward/Naghdi in SB. Also looking forward to Hayward in Coppelia, would loved to have seen Anna Rose as well as I think she'd be perfect for the role, but unfortunately as it's the Christmas period I'll likely be out of London - but will try and see Morera instead (another dancer I haven't seen before!). Interesting that Osipova hasn't been cast for Coppelia as wasn't it one of her well known roles at the Bolshoi; and I think she'd be great in it actually (the dramatic and 'exaggerated' side of Swanilda?). 

 

I wonder why if casting is finalised to this level that they can't release it to the website? Perhaps it's supposed to be a perk of being a friend that you know casting earlier but this isn't mentioned as a benefit in their membership options. 

 

As someone else has already said, it's also odd that they can release this level of casting detail (e.g. for Manon Lescaut's Mistress and G.M.) whereas on the website it's usually just Manon/De Grieux/Lescaut. Perhaps this is a poor example though as Manon is first up so they likely have more detailed casting available for this one! It'll be interesting to see if once it does go up on the website, if they'll list the same detail! 

 

Overall I'm pretty pleased with the Autumn's offering, lots of role debuts! 

I figured she wasn't cast because she isn't available due to her projects. 

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