tutoo2much Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 (edited) Not sure if I am reading this correctly but it looks like DADAs here for another couple of years. At least those applying for 6th form can start planning. http://www.education.gov.uk/schools/toolsandinitiatives/efaebulletins/h00212487/issue-9/article04 Dance and Drama Awards in 2013/14 Bulletin Date: 02 August 2012 Information for 16-19 providers and academies with sixth forms We will continue to support access to the performing arts sector through the Dance and Drama Awards (DaDA) scheme from 2013/14. The national levels of support for 16-19 year olds will remain the same from 2013/14. The administration of the scheme is to change. Schools will now be responsible for their own budget management and for undertaking income assessments for new learners. The Department for Education has written to those schools administering the Dance and Drama Awards to inform them of these changes in more detail. Edited August 25, 2012 by tutoo2much 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurora Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 That's great news! Looks like they're cutting administrative costs as a saving and passing them onto the individual institutions instead - seems a good compromise! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millie3 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Great news - been waiting to hear the outcome of this one 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulip Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 It is good news as a da da will make all the difference to most students in attending their next important step to training. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAIRBELLES Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I know the DaDa's are awarded to the students showing most potential but can anyone advise as to how they are given out? Do the schools have so many like the MDS awards? Or does it depend on how many marks you get at audition? I know there may be changes this year with schools/colleges doing their own admin but any advice from any DP's that have already been through this process would be really appreciated. Thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lildancer96 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Certain Schools are given an amount of dada awards to allocate. As far as I am aware , they are all the same funding and the schools provide a document saying how students are chosen- i think elmhurst and tring had about 14 each last year. Lil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulip Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I think for Northern that there is a point system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlady Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Thank you for this info. We can now start to plan where DD can apply this year. Not too many places have audition times out yet but I am sure it will be soon. T 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutoo2much Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 Is that 14 places for 6.1 at Elmhurst and Tring? That really isn't a lot. How many do RBS have or is it different funding arrangements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulip Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 At Tring this year some of the 5th formers kept hold of their MDS awards, so that freed up some of the DA DAs that them student would have got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balletla Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Why do some places offer DaDas and some MDSs? If you earn a reasonable income, you could end up paying a lot more for an MDS than a DaDa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulip Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 But if you are on a very low income then you would be much better off, it could even mean the difference of whether a person can carry on with their training. Is a DA DA roughly 50% off the school fees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyG Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 A Dada is about 1250 a year, so about 400 a term then at Elmhurst boarding ontop can't remember how much. Though remember 6.1 costing us about 9,000 for the year. Even in 6.2 and 6.3 an additional approx 400 a term for meals on top of Dada plus rent. I thought Elmhurst had about 20 Dada's. Royal Upper school is still MDS, does anyone know why they don't offer Dada's like the rest of the MDS (dance) school's do in 6th form? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutoo2much Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) So with a Dada you pay £1250 for a years fees. Then do you have to find money for room and board? Is there a scale of contributions depending on parental income? It sounds very expensive. Edited August 27, 2012 by tutoo2much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutoo2much Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 Just found the link to the page with all the info about DADA's http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/EducationAndLearning/14To19/MoneyToLearn/DanceandDrama/DG_066991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyG Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) You only get help with boarding costs in 6th form at Elmhurst if you earn under the magic 33,000 a year. Elmhurst do offer some additional funding but haven't worked out how you qualify for it. We applied but were told we didn't meet the criteria. Though others in DS year do! We are paying about 250 a month in rent and bills on top of the Elmhurst bill. Would be good if the government website was updated to reflect 2012/2013 onwards. It still shows 2011/2012 details. Edited August 27, 2012 by KathyG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulip Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 It is very confusing isn't it with all the hidden costs. It sounds awful, but if you want your child to succeed at a higher level in ballet or indeed sport or the arts, it appears you do need to have money behind you. I thank god that both me and my husband are working otherwise we simply could not afford to pay for our daughters chosen career. The cost of petrol alone is enough and then if you worked everything else out then it is a wow 'how much'? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living the Dream Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 A Dada is about 1250 a year, so about 400 a term then at Elmhurst boarding ontop can't remember how much. Though remember 6.1 costing us about 9,000 for the year. Even in 6.2 and 6.3 an additional approx 400 a term for meals on top of Dada plus rent. I thought Elmhurst had about 20 Dada's. Royal Upper school is still MDS, does anyone know why they don't offer Dada's like the rest of the MDS (dance) school's do in 6th form? Hi KathyG I believe that RBS Upper School is still MDS because they do not qualify for DaDa's as their course does not cover the Diploma in Professional Dance, only 'A' Levels. LTD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BankruptMum Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Does a DADA award have the extras as some MDS awards do? I.e uniform allowance, music lessons or is it purely for the course fees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BankruptMum Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Does a DADA award have the extras as some MDS awards do? I.e uniform allowance, music lessons or is it purely for the course fees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieW Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Just course fees :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PippinPointe Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 My DD has a dada for September and the way I have looked at it is this: Though we're paying the boarding fees and the £1,250.00 a year as well, its only marginally more than we have paid out in the last year in associate courses, travelling and classes as well as travel to school and food at school. When I added this up I was shocked as to how much we had spent!! I've found its a much easier pill to swallow when I looked at it this way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hfbrew Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) My DD has a dada for September and the way I have looked at it is this: Though we're paying the boarding fees and the £1,250.00 a year as well, its only marginally more than we have paid out in the last year in associate courses, travelling and classes as well as travel to school and food at school. When I added this up I was shocked as to how much we had spent!! I've found its a much easier pill to swallow when I looked at it this way Thats exactly how we approached things when my son first went away. When we first started investigated the costs, before ds auditioned, I well remember my dh saying we couldn't afford it! And I remember the penny dropping when I gently said that we were already spending a similar amount over the year. By the time we factored in all the costs of sending ds to our preferred secondary school plus associate lessons and music too it was cheaper to send him away!! And now I see many of my young students going off to University with all the costs that that entails whereas my ds has a job he loves and is no longer, in theory, costing us a penny... edited to add the very best of wishes to those starting full time training next week. Work hard and have fun! Edited August 30, 2012 by hfbrew 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BankruptMum Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Looking at Elmhurst, The Hammond and Tring Park websites this morning to try to and see what the boarding/course fees were and finding it hard to find any figures? Is it me - perhaps I'm being blind?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living the Dream Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Looking at Elmhurst, The Hammond and Tring Park websites this morning to try to and see what the boarding/course fees were and finding it hard to find any figures? Is it me - perhaps I'm being blind?? When my DD auditoned for Elmhurst sixth form this year, I asked the finance director how much they charge on top of the DaDa contribution and she said £3,000 per term, so that's £9,000 for the first year. In the 2nd and 3rd year they move into their own flats. On top of this you have medical insurance, ballet shoes, and ballet uniform etc. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2dancersmum Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 When DD auditioned this year we did not really find out about boarding costs anywhere until the audition when we had either a parents talk or some paperwork explaining about accommodation and DADAs, I don't think I saw any figures for boarding on the websites. From what I was told, Tring are about the same as Elmhurst for their boarding house for 6th form but some have landlady accommodation. Hammond have no boarding house for 6th formers. Most live with landladies or share houses close to the school. Course fees should be on the website. For Hammond, click on post 16 dance and it tells you fees and what is involved in the audition. Tring has a lnk on their funding for 6th form page. I couldn't see anything for Elmhurst on their new website but it may be on the actual application form (thats where Northern's fees were shown this year). It is a huge learning curve as you go through the audition process but hopefully the outcome is worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BankruptMum Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Thank you everyone, the lower school seems to be quite different to the upper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 For Tring there is a link to 2012/2013 fees at the bottom of this page http://www.tringpark.com/applying/fees-and-funding boarding is £10,030.00 per tem & day pupils £6,700.00 so would guess boarding is £3,330 a term! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyG Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Elmhurst fees for 2011 - 2012 6th Form boarding 8298 a term 6th Forn day 6224 a term So boarding 2074, that sounds about right by the time you add the rest Dada 400, Bupa 150, then uniform it comes to about the 3000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balletla Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 So basically anyone paying more than about £10,250 a year on an MDS will be worse off if they end up in school which offers MDS for 6th form. Could mean someone has to turn down RBS for another school which offers a DaDa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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