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My daughter  is currently is award of a dada for a level six diploma in professional dance and has been told she can do a year top up at Middlesex university to turn into a BA hons in dance would she be able to go on after and do another year and become either a primary school teacher or secondary school teacher. Also if at the end of completion of the diploma in professional dance she dosent get a job has a dancer would she be able to do go and do a university level course and access student finance to do a different career path. 

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Your daughters journey so far is unique to her so I think you may need to research and add up her qualifications and UCAS points. 

As far as I’m aware a degree is a degree even if it’s only in dance performance. 

 

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You are only entitled to four years of student finance whether that be from a Dada or student loan so your daughter will only have access to one more year finance after completing her diploma.  I’m not sure how this affects post grad studies, eg pgce.

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You need to research the funding for initial teacher training as that may be a possibility. Call student finance if you need to for advice.

 

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Although my information may be out of date, my dd did the level 6 diploma with a dada and she could have got a student loan for the top up to the degree. Her dada was not considered a student loan because she wasn't on a degree course. She was very lucky the ballet company paid for her to do the top up.

 

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The degree would be a BA (hons) in Professional Practice (arts) & it's a distance learning course.  She should be able to apply for a part time tuition fee loan. 

 

PGCE's are unique & you can apply for student finance even if you've already done a 3/4 year degree (unlike other post grads) 

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From my understanding, a student loan is only available for your first higher education qualification so once you have achieved your level 6 Trinity diploma , then you already have got a higher education qualification and so could not go back to university and get a student loan to do a different undergraduate degree course. This is the theory - but I do know people who have gone onto degree in other subjects afterwards - I obviously do not know their finances though.

The funding rules however do allow for you to do the 1 year top up or conversion course for the diploma to a BA in Professional Practice.

 

PGCE is post grad so different criteria apply for funding. You do need check entry requirements though as I think you do need the BA degree first

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Your 1 yr top up will be permitted the rules are you can't do course at same level you already have. 

 

PGCE wise - you can do the Cert Ed ( having a level 3 in your chosen subject area) a Professional graduate cert ed ( for those without a degree but 2yr equivalent so diploma/foundation degree, or standard pgce. All of these are funded through Initial Teacher Training (ITT). 

In addition to ITT you can now access funding for masters (£10k loan) 

 

Hope that helps. 

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Thank you all so much for your help I am always looking for a back up plan if the dance path dosent happen for my daughter and all the money spent so far can help her follow another path later on. 😀

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3 hours ago, Curious said:

Thank you all so much for your help I am always looking for a back up plan if the dance path dosent happen for my daughter and all the money spent so far can help her follow another path later on. 😀

The other people to contact are the ones at UCAS. After all they are the ones that deal with Uni places etc. I was of the firm belief (under a slightly different jurisdiction) that finance is available if it's a first Degree. As a Diploma isn't exactly a Degree (Vocational equivalent ) in the eyes of a Uni it is possible to obtain a Student loan to fund a students first degree. There is a link on the UCAS website for Student Loans. Staff were found to be very knowledgeable and helpful. Completely different career but my son was eligible for a student loan for a degree course without A levels but having obtained a Diploma within the same field of study.

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what is the exact CATS point  make up of the   level 6 diplomas ?

when Nurse  pre-reg  was  fully funded diplomas  and  student  loans  etc for living costs  for  pre-reg degree , several of the EHIs had the  wicked wheeze of the 'Advanced  Diploma' /' Enhanced  Diploma' 

a DipHE is a level 5 award  - 120 level 4  credits, 120  level 5  credits,   an Honours degree  adds  120 level 6  30 / 40 / 60 of which are from the  dissertation /final project  ...  these advanced diplomas in Nursing  has  120 level 4, 120 levle 5 , and 60  level 6  so  counted as diplomas  for fundign  but  covered half  the 'top up'  to a honours degree 

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You can get a breakdown of the syllabus, modules and credits of the level 6 Trinity Diploma by opening up the pdf on their website.http://www.trinitycollege.com/site/?id=270

 

From what I was told, however,  the requirement for the 'top up' or conversion course to get a BA Honours degree is not because of numbers of credits overall but because of the number of academic credits involved and the fact that there is no dissertation/final project. The Middlesex university course adds the 2 academic modules plus the dissertation

 

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it sounds very much like the  Trinity  diplomates are in much the  same position as  those  who did  'Advanced Diploma' p re-reg Nurisng courses , there;a module or two  and the dissertation to ' top up'   to the  honours  degree

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Please can you advise. If you are offered a dada is it fo true three years or do you have to repudiation every year 

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