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What I hope will happen:

 

Matthew Ball to First Soloist

Reece Clark to Soloist

Calvin Richardson to Soloist

 

Yasmin Naghdi to Principal (had to drop the e on her name because my auto-predict insists on Jasmine!)

Olivia Cowley to First Soloist

Anna-Rose O'Sullivan to Soloist

 

Those are my top six but I am sure I'll think of more!

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I would agree with all of Sim's above except Calvin Richardson. He's an Artist now, so surely First Artist is next for him, but for sure a candidate for promotion and eventual Soloist, if not more, status. I would add Gina Storm- Jensen and David Yudes from Artist to First Artist. I also think that Christina Arestis deserves some sort of promotion. She's so versatile...so wonderful in Monotones, as Bathilde and in Sleeping Beauty -  company backbone. Ashley Dean possibly? Yuhui Choe possibly? In the less contentious possibly arena I would add David Donelly and Isabella Gasparini.

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I understand what you mean about Richardson rank-wise, Darlex, but I just think he can do soloist roles now. However, I would be fine with waiting another year!

 

Funnily enough I was going to put David and Isabella on my list but then decided I had to think about whether they are quite ready for soloist roles yet. Having decided that DD would make a good Lensky, I guess he is! I haven't seen enough of IG to make a proper judgement, but I like what I have seen and that smile alone deserves promotion!

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Okay Sim, if this is the game we're playing, catapulting dancers through the ranks, I would catapult Anna Rose O'Sullivan to First Soloist. And while we're at it, I'd do the same to Reece Clarke. However, I have every faith that K. O'Hare will be able to make all the right decisions on our behalf. Thank goodness for him! I do think he's doing a great job on the whole.

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We have seen some exceptional dancing by many of the younger dancers this Season, and especially during this SB run.

 

Mr O'Hare knows his dancers best of all. The higher the rank the more physical and mental pressure a dancer will be under and not all of the younger dancers have gained enough experience to deal with such pressures. Doing time in the Corps greatly benefits dancers for various reasons. We have seen promotions in the past, which in my opinion happened far too fast, and those dancers got injured as soon as they joined a higher rank and were off dancing for a year. Some of the younger ones may have given us an impressive performance but joining a higher rank also means consistently dancing at that level as well as tackling increasingly demanding roles. Some dancers are more injury prone so Mr O'Hare has to carefully judge if a dancer will benefit staying another season at the same rank or move up. 

 

Based on the many performances I have seen this Season my guess is:

 

Yasmine Naghdi to Principal:

Naghdi has certainly earned her stripes having danced various repertoire to great acclaim. As a First Soloist she has had to tackle great Classical roles, she capably took over various demanding roles at short notice, danced Mathilde Kchessinska in "Anastasia" (the hardest Pd2 in the ballet repertoire) successfully (and with a partner too short for her), considered by many as the best Sugar Plum Fairy of all debutantes, was superb as the Rose Fairy, her highly successful performance as "Aurora"- described in detail by Jonathan Gray and other reviewers as outstanding- she has also shown her great versatility over the past seasons dancing difficult works by Ashton (Monotones, Symphonic Variations,...), MacMillan, McGregor, Balanchine;  she has also shown her great dramatic abilities dancing Juliet in "Romeo & Juliet", in "The Invitation", just to name a few. 

 

Olivia Cowley to First Soloist:

She has done her time at Soloist level, is strong in the Contemporary rep. and can also tackle classical roles.

Perhaps also Marcelino Sambe.

 

Anna Rose O'Sullivan to Soloist

Reece Clark to Soloist

 

Calvin Richardson to First Artist

Gina Storm-Jensen to First Artist

 

Mayara Magri was lovely this season too but imo could benefit from at least another year at Soloist rank (she only got promoted to Soloist last Season), same for Matthew Ball.

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My wish-list:

 

Yasmine Naghdi to Principal - if this doesn't happen I'm tempted to start a petition

Matthew Ball to First Soloist

Yuhui Choe to Principal (although sadly this is about as likely to happen as a new Manon dvd :( )

Anna-Rose O'Sullivan to Soloist

Olivia Cowley to First Soloist

 

And promotion for Sambé although in my pre-coffee state I can't remember his current rank - apologies.

 

Also agree re Christina Arestis.

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Actually, I think the new Manon DVD is rather more likely, Anna.

 

By comparison with other ADs I've experienced, it seems that O'Hare doesn't tend to hang around with promotions, sometimes basing on (perceived?) future potential rather than achievements to date, which I find rather more difficult to predict successfully.

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Based on what I have seen this season,

 

Yasmine Naghdi to Principal

Christina Arestis to Character Principal

Olivia Cowley to First Soloist

Anna Rose O'Sullivan to Soloist

Reece Clarke to Soloist

Calvin Richardson to First Artist

 

Invidious to speculate, but I am sure Zenaida Yanowsky will not be the only dancer leaving....

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Yasmine Naghdi to Principal

 

Marcelino Sambé to first soloist

 

Anna Rose O'Sullivan to Soloist

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Based on what I have seen this season,

 

Yasmine Naghdi to Principal

Christina Arestis to Character Principal

Olivia Cowley to First Soloist

Anna Rose O'Sullivan to Soloist

Reece Clarke to Soloist

Calvin Richardson to First Artist

 

Invidious to speculate, but I am sure Zenaida Yanowsky will not be the only dancer leaving....

 

O'Hare has previously said there will be no more promotions to character artist (principal or otherwise).

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O'Hare has previously said there will be no more promotions to character artist (principal or otherwise).

 

That's a shame. Do you know what the reasoning is behind that?

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My wish-list:

 

Yasmine Naghdi to Principal - if this doesn't happen I'm tempted to start a petition

 

I have already said that if it doesn't happen I will be chaining myself to Mr O'Hare's door.  Dave M will be joining me, so please feel free to also join our merry band should it be necessary!!  Actually, we won't be so merry....  :)

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I have already said that if it doesn't happen I will be chaining myself to Mr O'Hare's door.  Dave M will be joining me, so please feel free to also join our merry band should it be necessary!!  Actually, we won't be so merry....  :)

I'll be right there with you!

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O'Hare has previously said there will be no more promotions to character artist (principal or otherwise).

I think I'd also read that somewhere. It does beg the question though of how to reward a fine artist who isn't going to be dancing the lead in the classics (I recall years ago that Rosalind Eyre was a Principal and I think her only "dancing" role by that time was Lady Elgar).

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 It does beg the question though of how to reward a fine artist who isn't going to be dancing the lead in the classics

 

Bennet Gartside being the obvious example. Though maybe he could do Siegfried sometime if that's what it takes...

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Okay Sim, if this is the game we're playing, catapulting dancers through the ranks, I

 

Unfortunately, Kevin O'Hare doesn't seem to go in for jumping ranks although he did promote Tierney Heap twice within a year.

 

The last dancer I recall doing so (from First Artist to First Soloist in 2008) was Yuhui Choe.

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O'Hare has previously said there will be no more promotions to character artist (principal or otherwise).

 

I guess that Kevin O'Hare is being cautious of giving "jobs for life" which is how one current 'character' specialist once described the rank of Principal Character Artist.

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The last dancer I recall doing so (from First Artist to First Soloist in 2008) was Yuhui Choe.

 

Didn't Beatriz Stix-Brunell miss a rank?  I'm pretty sure she was promoted from Artist to Soloist after doing a couple of principal roles very early in her career (Alice and Princess Rose).

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Didn't Beatriz Stix-Brunell miss a rank?  I'm pretty sure she was promoted from Artist to Soloist after doing a couple of principal roles very early in her career (Alice and Princess Rose).

 

Yes, you're right Bluebird.

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Didn't Beatriz Stix-Brunell miss a rank?  I'm pretty sure she was promoted from Artist to Soloist after doing a couple of principal roles very early in her career (Alice and Princess Rose).

 

 

Yes indeed but this happened under Dame Monica Mason's Directorship.

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I know this might sound controversial, but do we need another female principal at the moment?  Isn't there more opportunity for first soloists to have a crack at leading roles, if there aren't too many above them who would automatically expect to be cast?  

 

Just saying.... :)

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Zenaida Yanowsky, very sadly, is retiring at the end of the season, so that is one female principal leaving. And if Yasmine Naghdi's performances this season aren't recognised as being of principal level (especially from what I hear - sadly I didn't see it - about her taking the Kschessinska role at very short notice and being considered by many to have given the best performance of the Anastasia run) then I shall clearly not be alone in wondering what on earth is going on. It appears that her performances have been at least equal to those of the principal dancers and I can't imagine why she should be expected to wait for official endorsement of that. Plus if they believe a first soloist is capable of dancing principal roles then they cast them - as Naghdi has proved.

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I can't see any principal promotions. Everyone raves about Naghdi but what about several of the others who are just as wonderful. I can see promotions through the ranks though. For principal, they could do with poaching from another company perhaps.

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Shya100, if there are others 'just as wonderful' as Naghdi (who has been pretty universally acclaimed) then what is the logic behind bringing in someone at principal level from another company?

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I know this might sound controversial, but do we need another female principal at the moment?  Isn't there more opportunity for first soloists to have a crack at leading roles, if there aren't too many above them who would automatically expect to be cast?  

 

Just saying.... :)

 

 

I can understand this question coming from an audience point of view and one can also ask: "do we need another First Soloist next season?" or "do we need another Soloist next Season?" and "did we need 2 female and 2 male new Principals last Season?" when there are already many good Principals, First Soloists and Soloists? Why promoting X to rank Y when there are already many good ones in that rank?

 

A promotion is given by the AD in recognition of the talent of a particular dancer who has not only worked extremely hard all Season long, who has proven herself/himself to be increasingly outstanding, who has proven to be able to tackle various styles, roles and choreographies, etc. Certain dancers in a particular rank stand out amongst their fellow ranked dancers and their talent has to be recognised and rewarded with promotion when the AD sees fit.

 

Keeping extremely talented and capable healthy dancers in the same rank... until they are needed in a higher rank carries risks too: they may leave and join another company, or their passion and desire may wane, or....

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A promotion is given by the AD in recognition of the talent of a particular dancer...

 

Do we know this to be true? It seems to me that their are plenty of other reason not to promote a dancer: financial, logistical, structural, pastoral. There are certainly a number of dancers that the company presumably believes are good enough to dance principle roles regularly, and yet are not principles. Whilst we would like to think that dancers are justly rewarded for their talent, I fear the world (and corporate structures) can be unjust. It seems to me that you may have the roles of audience and AD the wrong way round when it comes to considerations for promotion. 

 

​Either way, this whole discussion seems a touch premature considering we have only just entered the second half of the season. 

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I can't see any principal promotions. Everyone raves about Naghdi but what about several of the others who are just as wonderful. I can see promotions through the ranks though. For principal, they could do with poaching from another company perhaps.

Why on earth would we want someone 'poached' from another company when RB has such wonderful talent in its ranks?  And yes, people do rave about Naghdi - for good reason.  She is quite exceptional and deserves to be a Principal.  I for one hope we don't see too many outsiders coming in to guest for a while - unless for reasons of injury etc.  KOH has nurtured home-grown talent and more power to him for doing so.

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​Either way, this whole discussion seems a touch premature considering we have only just entered the second half of the season. 

 

 

 

Do we know this to be true? It seems to me that their are plenty of other reason not to promote a dancer: financial, logistical, structural, pastoral. There are certainly a number of dancers that the company presumably believes are good enough to dance principle roles regularly, and yet are not principles. Whilst we would like to think that dancers are justly rewarded for their talent, I fear the world (and corporate structures) can be unjust. It seems to me that you may have the roles of audience and AD the wrong way round when it comes to considerations for promotion. 

 

​Either way, this whole discussion seems a touch premature considering we have only just entered the second half of the season. 

 

 

With all due respect but I wasn't really talking about reasons not to promote dancers but about reasons why to promote dancers. 

Sure, your reasons not to promote are very valid reasons indeed.

 

Season 2016-17 started on 27th September and there are only 3 months left now.

 

I personally feel discussions can never be premature: a discussion is a discussion, an opinion is an opinion, a thought is a thought, and I think those of us who have wished to express their opinion have done so; those who feel it is premature are free to wait until May or June. 

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With all due respect but I wasn't really talking about reasons not to promote dancers but about reasons why to promote dancers. 

 

That is true. I guess I find it difficult to separate the two. 

 

 

I personally feel discussions can never be premature: a discussion is a discussion, an opinion is an opinion, a thought is a thought, and I think those of us who have wished to express their opinion have done so; those who feel it is premature are free to wait until May or June. 

 

 

Not trying to stifle discussion. I simply meant that technically we are still in the Winter Season, spring starts with Jewels, so technically we are still in the first half of the season. I'm not sure that matters though. We have certainly had enough performances to give the management something to think about, so its only fair we should think about it too.

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